It is time for a new Republican Party.

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Mitspa

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'establishment' -used to be- a well understood term...it originally referred to the influence of the moneyed special interests...such as one donald trump...who bought and corrupted political candidates...as one donald trump did on both sides of the aisle...

now all of a sudden the fringe has orwellianesquely reinvented the term 'establishment' to mean 'anyone other than donald trump and his sycophants'...

also your labelling everyone who disagrees with your idol to be 'left wing' or 'liberal' is increasingly ridiculous when i mostly oppose him because of his -big government- proposals...and you are the one cheering for those proposals like a teenager at a justin bieber concert...

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finally contrary to your accusation...i don't agree any more with hillary clinton than with donald trump...but you have become quite fluent in the language of lies...the father of lies must be very proud of you...
Seems like everyone understands the term but you? Vote for Hillary ..im sure you want to anyway :p
 
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Mitspa

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you mean tea party folks like former senator demint who thinks trump is wrong?
Demint was never a true TEA party guy..and it don't matter if the folks like him..these spineless politicians will come around.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Seems like everyone understands the term but you? Vote for Hillary ..im sure you want to anyway :p
lies again...your father must be proud...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Demint was never a true TEA party guy..and it don't matter if the folks like him..these spineless politicians will come around.
and 'no true scotsman' likes haggis i bet...
 
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Mitspa

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lies again...your father must be proud...
The term is used every day in every discussion on every news outlet ..and is understood by everyone that keeps up with the election ...only you seem to be confused about how the term is being used?
 

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Big difference Ross didn't win the Republican primary....looks like Trump will :)
He split the conservative vote handing Clinton the victory. I'd hate to see another Clinton victory in the same fashion.
 
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Mitspa

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He split the conservative vote handing Clinton the victory. I'd hate to see another Clinton victory in the same fashion.
Looks like trump will win the nomination ..going away. Why would he run as third party unless they tried to steal it from him? If they did that ..no one could blame him.
 

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Looks like trump will win the nomination ..going away. Why would he run as third party unless they tried to steal it from him? If they did that ..no one could blame him.
There's a long ways to go yet. Cruz is coming on strong as well...my pick of course :)
 
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Mitspa

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There's a long ways to go yet. Cruz is coming on strong as well...my pick of course :)
I could vote for Cruz..and probably would rather ..but I cant stand the way the establishment people attack Trump ..I love the fact that he makes them crazy lol
 
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Mitspa

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I will say this ..if trump wins Iowa ...I think its like a snowball ... he will win the rest of the states as well. I mean he beats both Bush and whats his name in Fla...he beats kiash in Ohio ...and beats them bad ... If they going stop him? they better do it before he wins Iowa.
 

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I will say this ..if trump wins Iowa ...I think its like a snowball ... he will win the rest of the states as well. I mean he beats both Bush and whats his name in Fla...he beats kiash in Ohio ...and beats them bad ... If they going stop him? they better do it before he wins Iowa.
Don't hold your breath :) ...

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you misunderstand...

i don't want to 'win back their support'...i want them tarred and feathered...
I understand as well. Not winning their votes means losing the election. I can imagine the long list of threads here after next years election. Those Trump supporters will take a beating. Some people will be convinced that had he never run in the first place, one or more other candidates would have defeated Hillary.

Trump is merely a symptom of what the Republican party is becoming. Maybe they can win more elections if they steer clear of God, don't discuss abortion, rally the under educated masses by talking about carpet bombing our enemies, building walls, and stopping all immigration. Tell people of faith they had better vote for you or the even more ungodly left will take over. So the Republican party wants to treat people of faith like the Democrat party treats blacks. Convince them they all need to vote for your party despite the fact they couldn't care less about you.
 

p_rehbein

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What I am enjoying is all the attacks on the "establishment" going on here. :)

So, this past week, Trump (in many interviews) claimed "he was the establishment." Up until he announced he was entering the race for the Republican Nomination. So many Trumpites here have been poor mouthing the establishment, yet, they do not seem to hear Trump when he identifies himself as "the establishment."

It doesn't seem to matter what unhinged thing he says, those who support him simply ignore the truth about him and desperately cling to their "Camelot-like" image of him.
 
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Mitspa

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What I am enjoying is all the attacks on the "establishment" going on here. :)

So, this past week, Trump (in many interviews) claimed "he was the establishment." Up until he announced he was entering the race for the Republican Nomination. So many Trumpites here have been poor mouthing the establishment, yet, they do not seem to hear Trump when he identifies himself as "the establishment."

It doesn't seem to matter what unhinged thing he says, those who support him simply ignore the truth about him and desperately cling to their "Camelot-like" image of him.
No one has a Camelot like image of him...its just compared to the (loser) establishment folks ..he is a "winner"
 

p_rehbein

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No one has a Camelot like image of him...its just compared to the (loser) establishment folks ..he is a "winner"
So you just ignore the fact that he claimed that he WAS THE ESTABLISHMENT? (so funny............)

He attacks Cruz, calls Cruz a maniac for going to Washington and FIGHTING FOR Conservative (Tea Party) beliefs/values........AND TRUMP HIMSELF has spent months calling everyone in Washington idiots, and that they are dump/stupid/what ever......that's called hypocrisy. But, then, Trump is the epitome of hypocrisy.

[Puff the Magic Dragon playing softly in the background]
 
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Mitspa

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So you just ignore the fact that he claimed that he WAS THE ESTABLISHMENT? (so funny............)

He attacks Cruz, calls Cruz a maniac for going to Washington and FIGHTING FOR Conservative (Tea Party) beliefs/values........AND TRUMP HIMSELF has spent months calling everyone in Washington idiots, and that they are dump/stupid/what ever......that's called hypocrisy. But, then, Trump is the epitome of hypocrisy.

[Puff the Magic Dragon playing softly in the background]
I don't think you understand the term or what he said ...I heard what he said ..and your being deceptive about it :(

As far as the thing about Cruz ...I think that was funny .....He is clearly the pot calling the kettle black ...but what you and others don't understand is that folks see his faults and still think he is much better than the establishment clowns.
 
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