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Isn't the problem not in defining the moral law that's on your heart, but making sure you dont try and be righteous by trying to obey it. The christian is supposed to follow after the holy spirit aren't they? Then they get the fruits of the spirit in their life, and the more that happens the more they obey the law on their heart.
The only time you end up concentrating on the law on your heart is when you dont follow after the holy spirit.
But if you are led by the spirit you are not under law Gal 5:18
The only time you end up concentrating on the law on your heart is when you dont follow after the holy spirit.
But if you are led by the spirit you are not under law Gal 5:18
There is a difference between tasting and drinking......Jesus knew of this concept too..
Matthew 27:34 (KJV)
[SUP]34 [/SUP] They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink.
Matthew 26:27-28 (NASB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you;
[SUP]28 [/SUP] for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.
John 7:37-38 (KJV)
[SUP]37 [/SUP] In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.[SUP]38 [/SUP] He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
John 4:14 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall never thirst; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to eternal life."
Matthew 27:34 (KJV)
[SUP]34 [/SUP] They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink.
Matthew 26:27-28 (NASB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you;
[SUP]28 [/SUP] for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.
John 7:37-38 (KJV)
[SUP]37 [/SUP] In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.[SUP]38 [/SUP] He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
John 4:14 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall never thirst; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to eternal life."
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Yeah they can, You go to church, Your following "a faith" (it does not mean you had it) You taste it, and you experience it.
Crucify again is a legal term which came from the law. If you go back to law. you teach salvation can be lost and must be renewed ever year at the anual sacrifice.
John 6, Jesus said to chew or gnaw on him Not just taste him, If you just taste, you can not have faith. you may have mental aggrement (belief) But you will not have faith unless you chew and gnaw, and experience the true love of God.
Crucify again is a legal term which came from the law. If you go back to law. you teach salvation can be lost and must be renewed ever year at the anual sacrifice.
John 6, Jesus said to chew or gnaw on him Not just taste him, If you just taste, you can not have faith. you may have mental aggrement (belief) But you will not have faith unless you chew and gnaw, and experience the true love of God.
How can a person follow a faith and not have it? Hebrews 6 clearly says that those who fell away had become crucified with Christ (because it was impossible for them to become re-crucified). Therefore, it's not possible that they were unbelievers because any unbeliever can become crucified with Christ through faith.
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“Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.” (Matthew 5:48) Understand that by telling us to be perfect, Jesus is not telling us to be sinless. Basically speaking, to be “perfect” means to put off our old way of thinking and living and grow up by following the example of Jesus Himself. To be perfect means to mature in our walk with Jesus, and that is a lifelong process.
Matthew 5:43-48 are among the most “famous” passages in the Sermon on the Mount, and the most challenging. How Jesus is telling us to respond in these verses is not natural. Quite the opposite. “...Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, ...” (Matthew 5:44) is not natural! We must remember that the teaching that had been handed down through the ages made it possible for the Jewish people to keep the law of God. Murder was only committed with a weapon, not hatred in the heart (Matthew 5:21,22). Adultery was only a physical act with someone who was not your spouse, not lusting after another person sexually (Matthew 5:27,28). Oaths or vows meant nothing as long as you avoided using the Name of Jehovah when you made them (Matthew 5:33-37).
The way the Jews got around obeying the command of God was done by adding to God’s Word. The Scripture does say in Leviticus 19:18 that we are to love our neighbor, but nowhere does it tell us to hate our enemies. That addition was assumed by the teaching rabbis. They supposed the unbelieving Gentiles were hated by God. Thus, they taught that hating the Gentiles was as pleasing to God as loving their fellow Jews. Jesus blows that error right out of the Sea of Galilee, and in doing so, He rocks our world as well! Love my enemies? Bless those who curse me? Do good to those who hate me? Pray for those who despitefully use me? Why?, you ask. “That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.” (Matthew 5:45)
The answer of Jesus is clear. God’s providential care extends to all of His creation, not just a select few (Psalm 104:10-30). God so loves the world (John 3:16), not just the Jewish people. Yes, God has a special love for His elect of both Jew and Gentile, who come to Him by grace through faith in The Lord Jesus Christ (1 Peter 1:2), but His common love is totally nondiscriminatory. To love our enemies is being like our heavenly Father (Romans 5:6-10). To be moved with compassion towards those who hate us or despise us is being like Jesus (Matthew 9:35,36). How can we live this way? “...‘Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit,’ saith the LORD of hosts.” (Zechariah 4:6
Each morning my pastor sends us a teaching or 2 for us to meditate on.....thought I'd share one, your can tell it's definitely not my typing lol.
Matthew 5:43-48 are among the most “famous” passages in the Sermon on the Mount, and the most challenging. How Jesus is telling us to respond in these verses is not natural. Quite the opposite. “...Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, ...” (Matthew 5:44) is not natural! We must remember that the teaching that had been handed down through the ages made it possible for the Jewish people to keep the law of God. Murder was only committed with a weapon, not hatred in the heart (Matthew 5:21,22). Adultery was only a physical act with someone who was not your spouse, not lusting after another person sexually (Matthew 5:27,28). Oaths or vows meant nothing as long as you avoided using the Name of Jehovah when you made them (Matthew 5:33-37).
The way the Jews got around obeying the command of God was done by adding to God’s Word. The Scripture does say in Leviticus 19:18 that we are to love our neighbor, but nowhere does it tell us to hate our enemies. That addition was assumed by the teaching rabbis. They supposed the unbelieving Gentiles were hated by God. Thus, they taught that hating the Gentiles was as pleasing to God as loving their fellow Jews. Jesus blows that error right out of the Sea of Galilee, and in doing so, He rocks our world as well! Love my enemies? Bless those who curse me? Do good to those who hate me? Pray for those who despitefully use me? Why?, you ask. “That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.” (Matthew 5:45)
The answer of Jesus is clear. God’s providential care extends to all of His creation, not just a select few (Psalm 104:10-30). God so loves the world (John 3:16), not just the Jewish people. Yes, God has a special love for His elect of both Jew and Gentile, who come to Him by grace through faith in The Lord Jesus Christ (1 Peter 1:2), but His common love is totally nondiscriminatory. To love our enemies is being like our heavenly Father (Romans 5:6-10). To be moved with compassion towards those who hate us or despise us is being like Jesus (Matthew 9:35,36). How can we live this way? “...‘Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit,’ saith the LORD of hosts.” (Zechariah 4:6
Each morning my pastor sends us a teaching or 2 for us to meditate on.....thought I'd share one, your can tell it's definitely not my typing lol.
Hebrews 6 is a beautiful chapter on the grace of God.....I love that chapter...
Heb 6:4-8 talks about those that reject Jesus sacrifice..then in verse 9 it talks about us believers..
Hebrews 6:9 (NASB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] But, beloved, we are convinced of better things concerning you, and things that accompany salvation, though we are speaking in this way.
Here the author of Hebrews is speaking to the "Beloved"..that is us Christians that have accepted Jesus as our sacrifice...and he talks about "things that accompany salvation"
He wanted them to know that the verses 4-8 was not for them..which is why he said.."..though we are speaking in this way."
He didn't want them to put themselves - the true believers in that category.
Hebrews 6 is a beautiful chapter about the love and grace of Christ for us believers...not so good for those depending on the temple system.
Heb 6:4-8 talks about those that reject Jesus sacrifice..then in verse 9 it talks about us believers..
Hebrews 6:9 (NASB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] But, beloved, we are convinced of better things concerning you, and things that accompany salvation, though we are speaking in this way.
Here the author of Hebrews is speaking to the "Beloved"..that is us Christians that have accepted Jesus as our sacrifice...and he talks about "things that accompany salvation"
He wanted them to know that the verses 4-8 was not for them..which is why he said.."..though we are speaking in this way."
He didn't want them to put themselves - the true believers in that category.
Hebrews 6 is a beautiful chapter about the love and grace of Christ for us believers...not so good for those depending on the temple system.
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Your joking right?
Why are you so stuck in this, We were warned all over the NT about impostors, and illegitimate children being part of our churches, and to be wary of them.. But you think they were all saved?
Why does the NT over and over tell us to make sure we are of the faith, We are true children, We are not just people who believe, but have a dead faith,
No,
It clearly says do not return to law, Because if there is a future sin you commit that must be taken care of by law. then Jesus would have to come back and be crucified for that sin again.
It is talking about people who are in religion (Legalism) who come to tast this Christian claim of eternal life apart from works. Only to realise, You have tasted this christian life, and you do not trust it, So you return to what your true faith was in, Religion.
I see people do it all the time.
That puts Jesus to shame, You claim his death was not what he said it was.
Sadly, You are doing that very thing by claiming salvation can be lost
Hmm.................FYI ONLY........... 
antinomian
noun1.a person who maintains that Christians are freed from the moral law byvirtue of grace as set forth in the gospel.
antinomian
/ˌæntɪˈnəʊmɪən/
adjective1.relating to the doctrine that by faith and the dispensation of grace aChristian is released from the obligation of adhering to any moral law
noun2.a member of a Christian sect holding such a doctrine
Derived Forms
antinomianism, noun
antinomian
n."one who maintains the moral law is not binding on Christians under the lawof grace," 1640s, from Medieval Latin Antinomi, name given to a sect ofthis sort that arose in Germany in 1535, from Greek anti- "opposite,against" (see anti- ) + nomos "rule, law" (see numismatics ).
antinomian
noun1.a person who maintains that Christians are freed from the moral law byvirtue of grace as set forth in the gospel.
antinomian
/ˌæntɪˈnəʊmɪən/
adjective1.relating to the doctrine that by faith and the dispensation of grace aChristian is released from the obligation of adhering to any moral law
noun2.a member of a Christian sect holding such a doctrine
Derived Forms
antinomianism, noun
antinomian
n."one who maintains the moral law is not binding on Christians under the lawof grace," 1640s, from Medieval Latin Antinomi, name given to a sect ofthis sort that arose in Germany in 1535, from Greek anti- "opposite,against" (see anti- ) + nomos "rule, law" (see numismatics ).
Here is one definition which is similar ...just with the " because faith alone is necessary to salvation " part...
Definition of antinomian. 1 : one who holds that under the gospel dispensation of grace the moral law is of no use or obligation because faith alone is necessary to salvation. 2 : one who rejects a socially established morality.
This was in the Merriam -Webster
Definition of antinomian. 1 : one who holds that under the gospel dispensation of grace the moral law is of no use or obligation because faith alone is necessary to salvation. 2 : one who rejects a socially established morality.
This was in the Merriam -Webster
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Ugh!! Thats why I hate names, One of them, I would say fits me, The other sort of fits me..
1. I see a use for the law, up to salvation. it leads us to Christ.
2. I reject social morallity (in my social setting, Homosexuality now is widely accepted and is now the norm)
so what does that make me??
It seems I am a partial antimonian, A partial Calvanist (I hold to eternal security) partial Arminian (I hold to unlimited atonement) Partial Catholic (I hold to the trinity) Partial Baptist (Fundamental to the word of God as soul basis of doctrine) Partial licentious (I hold that sin can not separate us from God once we are saved) and partial legalist (I hold that sin is damaging to the soul and people. and thus we should turn from sin and find healing, and will hold people accountable to do that) I am sure i can find many more variations of things I am....
I guess I must be a mutt Christian. and not pure bread..!!
1. I see a use for the law, up to salvation. it leads us to Christ.
2. I reject social morallity (in my social setting, Homosexuality now is widely accepted and is now the norm)
so what does that make me??
It seems I am a partial antimonian, A partial Calvanist (I hold to eternal security) partial Arminian (I hold to unlimited atonement) Partial Catholic (I hold to the trinity) Partial Baptist (Fundamental to the word of God as soul basis of doctrine) Partial licentious (I hold that sin can not separate us from God once we are saved) and partial legalist (I hold that sin is damaging to the soul and people. and thus we should turn from sin and find healing, and will hold people accountable to do that) I am sure i can find many more variations of things I am....
I guess I must be a mutt Christian. and not pure bread..
!!If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our lord and saviour Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning
It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred commands that were passed onto them
2 peter2:20&21
It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred commands that were passed onto them
2 peter2:20&21