Healthcare in America
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Sure ,they make a great living! They dont make a "good" living but a great living! My point is the status quo has set them up for huge liabilities. Alot of good doctors have retired and sought other careers because of this threat . The salaries may not change but the liability in their field has risen considerably and it will continue to rise. Our healthcare system is broken.
oh you just joined a couple days ago -- where are my manners? welcome to CC!
i don't know how it is on other forums you might have been to, but here, there is no specific font to indicate sarcasm with. so it's not that easy to tell when reading text from people you've never interacted with before.
btw, always so polite?
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i don't know how it is on other forums you might have been to, but here, there is no specific font to indicate sarcasm with. so it's not that easy to tell when reading text from people you've never interacted with before.
btw, always so polite?
[video=youtube;0-51U2P9TLw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-51U2P9TLw[/video]
Just a note about Canadian doctors who are specialists. We do have to pay them something near the going rate in the US, or they will leave Canada and go to the US so they can make real money. This happened at one time, along with scientists, and it was called "the brain drain."
So they upped the going rates doctors charge, to keep them in Canada. An ob-gyn who wanted to work 60-80 hours a week wouldl make $1 million a year in Canada. Full time, 40 hours, would be $750,000 a year. Part time, up to $500,000. An anesthesiologist makes similar figures.
I know this because two of my children are married to residents, one who is looking forward to graduating from residency in July and the other in 2 years, and making that kind of money.
But becoming a doctor is not easy work. Besides having to be brilliant, take the right courses, get a high grade on the MCAT, they compete for specialties out of med school. Residency is the most grueling thing I have ever seen, with up to 2 on-call shifts a week, besides their regular day shifts. They get very little choice for days off, unless they are chief resident, which one of my doctor children in laws is now, and the other next year. Meaning they got to take Christmas day off, while other residents worked. Of course, you have all the extra hassles of being chief resident, many don't think it is worth it.
As Billy says, we who have universal health care would not change it for anything. When I hear the horror stories coming out of the US, I can only thank God I was born in Canada. Our system is just and caring. Even in BC, where they charge a bit for premiums, there are subsidies based on income, so the truly poor don't pay anything.
I was very sad when Obamcare did not go through. Or it went through, but so changed that it doesn't begin to resemble universal health care, and many people ended up with much higher premiums than before. Well, hopefully this is something Trump or Clinton can figure out? I jest, of course!
So they upped the going rates doctors charge, to keep them in Canada. An ob-gyn who wanted to work 60-80 hours a week wouldl make $1 million a year in Canada. Full time, 40 hours, would be $750,000 a year. Part time, up to $500,000. An anesthesiologist makes similar figures.
I know this because two of my children are married to residents, one who is looking forward to graduating from residency in July and the other in 2 years, and making that kind of money.
But becoming a doctor is not easy work. Besides having to be brilliant, take the right courses, get a high grade on the MCAT, they compete for specialties out of med school. Residency is the most grueling thing I have ever seen, with up to 2 on-call shifts a week, besides their regular day shifts. They get very little choice for days off, unless they are chief resident, which one of my doctor children in laws is now, and the other next year. Meaning they got to take Christmas day off, while other residents worked. Of course, you have all the extra hassles of being chief resident, many don't think it is worth it.
As Billy says, we who have universal health care would not change it for anything. When I hear the horror stories coming out of the US, I can only thank God I was born in Canada. Our system is just and caring. Even in BC, where they charge a bit for premiums, there are subsidies based on income, so the truly poor don't pay anything.
I was very sad when Obamcare did not go through. Or it went through, but so changed that it doesn't begin to resemble universal health care, and many people ended up with much higher premiums than before. Well, hopefully this is something Trump or Clinton can figure out? I jest, of course!
M
It looks like we are going to socialized medicine ..and as a conservative Christian ..its really hard to argue against it other than to say the States have got to control this thing because if the Feds become to keeper of the healthcare system ..we are all in a mess. And how long will it be until we are told what we can eat..how much we should weigh etc... Personally I had rather have liberty and die a free man than be under the governments yoke.
As a conservative Christian, I would support socialized medicine if the essence of it was godly, but it is not. The fact that its actually written in obamacare that politicians don't have to take part in it proves its nothing more than a socialist power grab against the common man's liberty. Like Andre Wilkow says, socialism is for the people, not the socialist.
M
Alright guys, here's the deal, I am tired of fighting. Please do me a favor and read Catechism of the Catholic Church - The eighth commandment
If you read through this, it will take about a week if you read it 1-2 hours a night after work. Please stop bashing Catholics about stuff you made up.
Prove me wrong, but I know nobody will read it, and we can carry on with the "Catholics worship Mary stuff". Pastor said so, so it must be true, because I am not capable of reading a book to find out for myself.
If you read through this, it will take about a week if you read it 1-2 hours a night after work. Please stop bashing Catholics about stuff you made up.
Prove me wrong, but I know nobody will read it, and we can carry on with the "Catholics worship Mary stuff". Pastor said so, so it must be true, because I am not capable of reading a book to find out for myself.