Homosexuality is not a choice!!!!

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Euphemia

Euphemia

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Magenta said:
I hope you hop to it and renounce and repent of your hateful homophobic hog swallop, the Satanic vile and evil lies of deception you spread by saying it is a sin to acknowledge oneself a sinner. You are stuck in an evil thought life to promote such harmfully erroneous beliefs. Repent, Euphemia! Repent of your sin and error and embrace the grace and truth extended through Jesus Christ, for He is mighty and righteous, saving to the utmost those who turn to Him and acknowledge their sin... you as much as any gay person, despite your protestations to the contrary. Vile and evil lies, be gone! It is not a sin to identify as a gay person any more than it is a sin for any sinner to identify as a sinner. Your stinkin thinkin stinks to high heaven.
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Magenta, dear, I have nothing to repent of. Because of Christ and His word, I do not have to consider myself a sinner any more, for my sins are all wiped away and God sees me as a righteous person because of the blood of Jesus. He calls me His friend, and a saint. It is poor, carnal reasoning to call oneself a sinner when one is saved by grace.

Anyone, even a homosexual, can be freed from this erroneous idea that we are always sinners in the sight of God and that we have no control over evil thoughts and desires. That's what the devil would have you believe. Choose today to believe the truth...that is, if you have truly received salvation in Jesus.

I certainly wouldn't put any stock in a person who claims to be a Christian and says he is also a homosexual. That is asinine. The two cannot co-exist. He would be a liar. If he is "saved to the uttermost" (Hebrews 7:25), then he would be sensitive to the Holy Spirit telling him he a new creation in Christ, and to honour God he would not speak of himself as an abomination to God. He would by faith accept that God has forgiven him of his sin in that area, and has set him on solid ground in Christ and that he is a totally new person!

You definitely need some education in this area.


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Willie-T

Willie-T

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Magenta said:
I hope you hop to it and renounce and repent of your hateful homophobic hog swallop, the Satanic vile and evil lies of deception you spread by saying it is a sin to acknowledge oneself a sinner. You are stuck in an evil thought life to promote such harmfully erroneous beliefs. Repent, Euphemia! Repent of your sin and error and embrace the grace and truth extended through Jesus Christ, for He is mighty and righteous, saving to the utmost those who turn to Him and acknowledge their sin... you as much as any gay person, despite your protestations to the contrary. Vile and evil lies, be gone! It is not a sin to identify as a gay person any more than it is a sin for any sinner to identify as a sinner. Your stinkin thinkin stinks to high heaven.
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Yeah, but how do you REALLY feel?
 
Euphemia

Euphemia

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KennethC said:
1 Timothy 1:15

This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.


Paul said this while instructing Timothy, and also in Philippians 3 Paul told them that he is not perfect yet and has not attained the goal of the resurrection. When Paul wrote this to the Philippians it was about 30 years after his conversion !!!
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Paul was using a way of speaking known at that time (which we in the modern era do not use) to emphasize the past that he WAS a sinner-in-chief.


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Magenta

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Euphemia said:
Magenta, dear, I have nothing to repent of. Because of Christ and His word, I do not have to consider myself a sinner any more
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Not surprisingly, you contradict Scripture... again. (1 John 1:8). You deceive yourself, and build straw men to try to defend yourself, when it is obvious from your very words that the truth is not in you. It is not a sin for anyone to identify as a sinner as you say. You can pretend all you want, but you don't fool me.
 
Magenta

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Willie-T said:
Yeah, but how do you REALLY feel?
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I had a lot of laughs writing that. :) If you read back through our exchanges you will see why. Such sanctimonious bull crap from others sometimes has that effect on me, especially when I reflect it back to them. Know what I mean? :)
 
Euphemia

Euphemia

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Magenta said:
I had a lot of laughs writing that. :) If you read back through our exchanges you will see why. Such sanctimonious bull crap from others sometimes has that effect on me, especially when I reflect it back to them. Know what I mean? :)
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Sanctimony, thy name is Magenta.
 
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Euphemia said:
Paul was using a way of speaking known at that time (which we in the modern era do not use) to emphasize the past that he WAS a sinner-in-chief.


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Paul was stating and admitting just as the Apostle John also stated in 1 John 1:8-10.

Yes he was speaking of the things of the past but was still admitting to being a sinner for that, and he still 30 years after his conversion said he was not perfect yet or attained the goal of the resurrection.

Paul compared the salvation through Christ of that of running a race to achieve the prize, as he never taught as now day doctrines do that say we do nothing. Not even Jesus said we do nothing; Jesus said, " to much is given much will be required. "
 
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See what I mean? I am told it is a sin to admit you are a sinner, that the very act of identifying as gay is in itself a sin, and had all kinds of other hogswallop dumped on me, supposedly in the name of God and His Holy Word. Such deception passed off as truth by others deserves derision.
 
Grace777x70

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where did someone say it was a sin to call yourself a sinner?..i must have missed that one...:confused:
 
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Euphemia

Euphemia

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Grace777x70 said:
where did someone say it was a sin to call yourself a sinner?..i must have missed that one...:confused:
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Right. It is simply evidence of some wrong thinking that needs clearing away, that's all.


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Euphemia

Euphemia

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KennethC said:
Paul was stating and admitting just as the Apostle John also stated in 1 John 1:8-10.

Yes he was speaking of the things of the past but was still admitting to being a sinner for that, and he still 30 years after his conversion said he was not perfect yet or attained the goal of the resurrection.

Paul compared the salvation through Christ of that of running a race to achieve the prize, as he never taught as now day doctrines do that say we do nothing. Not even Jesus said we do nothing; Jesus said, " to much is given much will be required. "
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No one is perfect, and even though Christians still sin occasionally, that is not who we are. Paul knew that and his life was a testament to that.


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Euphemia

Euphemia

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Magenta said:
See what I mean? I am told it is a sin to admit you are a sinner, that the very act of identifying as gay is in itself a sin, and had all kinds of other hogswallop dumped on me, supposedly in the name of God and His Holy Word. Such deception passed off as truth by others deserves derision.
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Yes, for a Christian to announce himself as a homosexual is to prove himself greatly confused and/or deceived.


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Grace777x70

Grace777x70

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This is all a matter of identity! If I was a thief before I came to Christ..am I still a thief?..in the eyes of the world I am ( and in the eyes of self-righteous people that never stolen anything ...I could still be thought of that way )

 In Christ there is no such thing of being gay, being a thief, a gossiper..whatever. We are new creations in Christ!

It's a matter of identity!

Let's tell Christians who they really are now in Christ..and to stop identifying ourselves with the old habits of our former life or for those things that we still struggle with.



Such WERE some of you....we have new identities now in Christ...just like Paul talked about...

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Know ye not that the unrighteous ( unbeliever..AKA sinner )shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, ( believer..AKA - saint ) but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
 
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It's a matter of identity!

Let's tell Christians who they really are now in Christ..and to stop identifying ourselves with the old habits of our former life or for those things that we still struggle with.It's a matter of identity!

Let's tell Christians who they really are now in Christ..and to stop identifying ourselves with the old habits of our former life or for those things that we still struggle with.
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Amen! It is a matter of identity.

The lie is that one is gay or homosexual. The truth is that God did not create a person to contradict his creation.. man is for woman and woman is for man.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
This is all a matter of identity! If I was a thief before I came to Christ..am I still a thief?..in the eyes of the world I am ( and in the eyes of self-righteous people that never stolen anything ...I could still be thought of that way )

 In Christ there is no such thing of being gay, being a thief, a gossiper..whatever. We are new creations in Christ!

It's a matter of identity!

Let's tell Christians who they really are now in Christ..and to stop identifying ourselves with the old habits of our former life or for those things that we still struggle with.



Such WERE some of you....we have new identities now in Christ...just like Paul talked about...

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (KJV)
[SUP]9[/SUP] Know ye not that the unrighteous ( unbeliever..AKA sinner )shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
[SUP]10[/SUP] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
[SUP]11[/SUP] And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, ( believer..AKA - saint ) but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
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If they are still locked into deliberately doing those sins than they are still a sinner, and as for this scripture from 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 the part of "such were some of you" is in reference to the fact that in Christ we no longer walk in those sinful ways any more.

It does not mean we are automatically no longer those things even if we still do them as we are told to flee those things in the same chapter.
 
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Euphemia said:
No one is perfect, and even though Christians still sin occasionally, that is not who we are. Paul knew that and his life was a testament to that.


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Paul also taught it was possible not to continue in the faith, and that some can and will depart from the Lord !!!
 
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Magenta said:
I hope you hop to it and renounce and repent of your hateful homophobic hog swallop, the Satanic vile and evil lies of deception you spread by saying it is a sin to acknowledge oneself a sinner. You are stuck in an evil thought life to promote such harmfully erroneous beliefs. Repent, Euphemia! Repent of your sin and error and embrace the grace and truth extended through Jesus Christ, for He is mighty and righteous, saving to the utmost those who turn to Him and acknowledge their sin... you as much as any gay person, despite your protestations to the contrary. Vile and evil lies, be gone! It is not a sin to identify as a gay person any more than it is a sin for any sinner to identify as a sinner. Your stinkin thinkin stinks to high heaven.
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Your stinkin thinkin stinks to high heaven.
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I dont think you get it. Christ renews our minds and our identity is in HIM. A person that proclaims that he is homosexual only reinforces in the spirit realm > the lie! Noone is actually homosexual. It is a false identity. To keep saying it is to agree with the adversary. Agreeing with the adversary in any way shape or form ,IS SIN.

Repent magenta repent!!
 
Magenta

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Grace777x70 said:
This is all a matter of identity!
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Tell me, then, if you can, is it a sin to say I am a human being now? Since human beings are sinful by nature, should I now throw off that designation and call myself something else? What about my gender, am I to toss that to the dogs also? I am neither male nor female in Christ... does that make it a sin for me to identify as a woman? As to the question of people identifying as gay, the question was never about a Christian identifying that way until well into the conversation... it was simply said that anyone identifying as gay is sinning to do so, that the simple fact of being gay (like being a human being, or being a woman) is in and of itself a sin. That is what I have been addressing all along, those who make deceitful statements about identifying as something equals doing something to define one's identity. It was even heavily implied that knowing one is gay assures that one will act on it, a ridiculous assertion if ever I saw one, no different than saying that knowing you are heterosexual assures the world of the fact that you are going to fornicate and commit adultery and who knows what other sexual immorality by simple virtue of the fact of your knowing your orientation. Missed where it was said it was wrong/a sin to acknowledge one's self a sinner? #568 ... I even argued against naming temptation as a sin. Imagine that! Christians purporting that being tempted amounts to actually sinning. They reject solid Biblical truths to do so.
 
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