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I've been asking that for some time. Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer. I'm doing that already.
Homosexuality is not a choice!!!!
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No miss butt-in-sky, it was not about Christians identifying as gay, if you had a clue about the conversation you may have known that... and if homosexuals do not really exist, why are so many people talking about them? You seem terribly deceived by Satan and need to repent of your blindness! Repent Blondie! Repent!
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You can not do away with sin in your life if you don't acknowledge the sinful behavior you are dealing with.....
This is seen with alcoholic's and those addicted to drugs, they can not take care of those sins if they don't admit they have a problem. I have seen this personally with family members, unless you admit what it is and it is a problem then doing away with it will never happen.
Amen...so they should not be focusing in on the sin but who they are in Christ now....that they are the righteousness of God in Christ..be who you really are now because of He is in you...you have His nature now inside of you...awake to righteousness and sin not..
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Do you know that the bible says those in apostasy are not saved ??? And do you know that apostasy means one who was once in the truth/faith but then want astray after lies ???
That's right..they changed "identities"..now they are sanctified....when they keep hearing about Christ and His finished work..their behavior will fall in line..but it's by the spirit within the person..not by will-power in the flesh
Paul always told Christians who they were in Christ first..then told them what this life in Christ should look like.
Paul always told Christians who they were in Christ first..then told them what this life in Christ should look like.
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.Amen...so they should not be focusing in on the sin but who they are in Christ now....that they are the righteousness of God in Christ..be who you really are now because of He is in you...you have His nature now inside of you...awake to righteousness and sin not..
1 John 1:8... I may wear that one out at this rate!
LOL...no one said not to say bad behaviors are not sin....you missed the whole point..it's in being Christ focused that we get delivered from addictions..sinful living..etc.
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Paul also constantly warned them if they continued in their sinful ways to, and those warnings he gave them were not just physical in the flesh consequences !!!
Paul like Hebrews showed that continuing to walk deliberate sinful lives was trampling Jesus underfoot, and such will stand before God at the Great White Judgment when the second death will be issued to those who were disobedient.
You really are grasping at straws! I didnt bother to read the rest based on the first sentences...
I hope all that purple hasnt gone to your head
Strawman... didn't you just write a big long post about that? Please apply it to yourself. Thanks. And no, I did not miss the point. You, on the other hand, seem to have missed this... care to address it?
I guess you are allergic to the truth.You really are grasping at straws! I didnt bother to read the rest based on the first sentences...
I hope all that purple hasnt gone to your head
Ok..so we are back to Hebrews 10..what a great chapter on the grace of Christ!...
All through Hebrews the only sin talked about was the sin of unbelief...then in Heb 10:..he talks about willfully sinning which is rejecting Jesus as the Christ for those Jews that the letter was names for.."Hebrews"....
By the way..all sin is will full..
mailmandan gave a great summary of Hebrews 10 below....
I have no problem with Hebrews 10. To "sin willfully" (Hebrews 10:26) in the Greek carries the idea of deliberate intention that is habitual, which stems from rejecting Christ deliberately. This is CONTINUOUS ACTION - A MATTER OF PRACTICE. Now we don't walk along our daily life and "accidentally" fall into a pit called sin. We exercise our will but, the use of the participle clearly shows a CONTINUOUS ACTION. The unrighteous practice sin - 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-21 not the righteous, who are born of God - 1 Corinthians 6:11; 1 John 3:9.
The reference to "the blood of the covenant that sanctified him" in v. 29 seems to be referring to a Christian, but this overlooks the fact that the word translated "sanctified" (which is a term often applied to Christians; is the verb form of the adjective "holy") which means "set apart," and doesn't necessarily refer to salvation. In 1 Corinthians 7:14, Paul uses it to specifically refer to non-Christians who are "sanctified" or "set apart" by their believing spouse. (And by this Paul does not mean that they are saved).
A non-Christian can be "set apart" from other non-Christians and sinful things without experiencing salvation as Paul clearly explained. So the word "sanctified" means to be "set apart." If the word "sanctified" simply meant saved, then you would have to say that the Sabbath was saved (Genesis 2:3), the tabernacle was saved (Exodus 29:43), the Lord was saved (Leviticus 10:3), the Father saved the Son (John 10:36) and many other things that just do not line up with scripture.
In verse 39, the author sets up the contrast that makes it clear to me that he was referring to unbelievers, not saved people: But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul. Those who draw back to perdition do not believe to the saving of the soul and those who believe to the saving of the soul do not draw back to perdition.
So after considering the context, it seems most likely that "he was sanctified" should be understood in the sense of someone who had been "set apart" or identified as an active participant in the Christian community of believers, but who has subsequently committed apostasy by renouncing his identification with other believers, by rejecting the "knowledge of the truth" that he had received, and by repudiating the work and the person of Christ himself. Such a person’s apostasy is thus evidence that his identification with the Christian community was only superficial and that he was not a genuine believer.
All through Hebrews the only sin talked about was the sin of unbelief...then in Heb 10:..he talks about willfully sinning which is rejecting Jesus as the Christ for those Jews that the letter was names for.."Hebrews"....
By the way..all sin is will full..
mailmandan gave a great summary of Hebrews 10 below....
I have no problem with Hebrews 10. To "sin willfully" (Hebrews 10:26) in the Greek carries the idea of deliberate intention that is habitual, which stems from rejecting Christ deliberately. This is CONTINUOUS ACTION - A MATTER OF PRACTICE. Now we don't walk along our daily life and "accidentally" fall into a pit called sin. We exercise our will but, the use of the participle clearly shows a CONTINUOUS ACTION. The unrighteous practice sin - 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-21 not the righteous, who are born of God - 1 Corinthians 6:11; 1 John 3:9.
The reference to "the blood of the covenant that sanctified him" in v. 29 seems to be referring to a Christian, but this overlooks the fact that the word translated "sanctified" (which is a term often applied to Christians; is the verb form of the adjective "holy") which means "set apart," and doesn't necessarily refer to salvation. In 1 Corinthians 7:14, Paul uses it to specifically refer to non-Christians who are "sanctified" or "set apart" by their believing spouse. (And by this Paul does not mean that they are saved).
A non-Christian can be "set apart" from other non-Christians and sinful things without experiencing salvation as Paul clearly explained. So the word "sanctified" means to be "set apart." If the word "sanctified" simply meant saved, then you would have to say that the Sabbath was saved (Genesis 2:3), the tabernacle was saved (Exodus 29:43), the Lord was saved (Leviticus 10:3), the Father saved the Son (John 10:36) and many other things that just do not line up with scripture.
In verse 39, the author sets up the contrast that makes it clear to me that he was referring to unbelievers, not saved people: But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul. Those who draw back to perdition do not believe to the saving of the soul and those who believe to the saving of the soul do not draw back to perdition.
So after considering the context, it seems most likely that "he was sanctified" should be understood in the sense of someone who had been "set apart" or identified as an active participant in the Christian community of believers, but who has subsequently committed apostasy by renouncing his identification with other believers, by rejecting the "knowledge of the truth" that he had received, and by repudiating the work and the person of Christ himself. Such a person’s apostasy is thus evidence that his identification with the Christian community was only superficial and that he was not a genuine believer.
I only want people to realize the truth. I will not fight with you. Ive seen how you will strive for weeks fighting with the RC and I tend to think you like it! I will NOT have any part in striving with your fighting nature.
When you repent and believe on Jesus Christ to be forgiven of your sins, the righteousness of Jesus is IMPUTED to your sinful record. To be saved, You Need HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS. You are no longer viewed as an adulterer, or a murderer, et cetera.
So to hold on to a false identity is SIN............
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