Homosexuality is not a choice!!!!
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Amen!
I agree with you..if someone identifies with another identity other then who they are in Christ now...they are definitely "missing the mark"..they are new creations in Christ!
Their faith will begin to work once they start acknowledging who they really are in Christ.
Philemon 1:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] That the communication of thy faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus.
I agree with you..if someone identifies with another identity other then who they are in Christ now...they are definitely "missing the mark"..they are new creations in Christ!
Their faith will begin to work once they start acknowledging who they really are in Christ.
Philemon 1:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] That the communication of thy faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus.
K
You need to stop listening to other men and listen to what the Holy Spirit and the word of God actually says.
Unbelief is not the only sin talked about in Hebrews, as chapters 3 and 4 talk on disobedience.............
The person you are using states that Hebrews 10:26 is directed at unbelievers, that is completely false as look at the verses just before it.
Hebrews 10:19-25 is talking about the steps believers in Christ take in coming to Him and the walk that follows, and verses 26-29 is after these steps have been taken; Not before !!!
Notice the contrast given between verses 28 and 29:
Verse 28 mentions those who have transgressed the Mosaic law and the punishment that came with it........
Verse 29 says how much more punishment will come to those who trample the Son of God by continuing to deliberately sinning..........
Showing the punishment of transgressing against the Lord will be worse then that of breaking the Mosaic law !!!
I see no contradiction in what she said....
she said = Agreeing with the adversary in any way shape or form ,IS SIN. = true
she said = So to hold on to a false identity is SIN = true
The last one was she was just saying she likes to focus on a balance of looking at sin and looking at righteousness - in her own life..
I see no contradictions at all....
she said = Agreeing with the adversary in any way shape or form ,IS SIN. = true
she said = So to hold on to a false identity is SIN = true
The last one was she was just saying she likes to focus on a balance of looking at sin and looking at righteousness - in her own life..
I see no contradictions at all....
Your religion is showing again..
The whole book of Hebrews was written to the Hebrews...in their synagogues there were believers and unbelievers..the author od Hebrews is showing through their own religious system about their need to come to Christ.
All sin is willful and if your interpretation is right then all of us are in deep trouble because we all sin everyday and it is willful..lol
The only sin talked about in the book of Hebrews is the sin of unbelief in chapter 3 and 4..then he goes on to talk about the High Priest..the sacrifices of bulls and goats..etc...
The "willful sin" is rejecting Jesus as their Messiah and relying on the temple sacrifices for their salvation. Unbelief is disobedience..
I know you need these verses to say that we can lose our salvation because that is what you believe..and as I have said before..you can believe whatever you want...I am just giving people a grace-based view to read and they can make their own minds up with the Holy Spirit within them....
The whole book of Hebrews was written to the Hebrews...in their synagogues there were believers and unbelievers..the author od Hebrews is showing through their own religious system about their need to come to Christ.
All sin is willful and if your interpretation is right then all of us are in deep trouble because we all sin everyday and it is willful..lol
The only sin talked about in the book of Hebrews is the sin of unbelief in chapter 3 and 4..then he goes on to talk about the High Priest..the sacrifices of bulls and goats..etc...
The "willful sin" is rejecting Jesus as their Messiah and relying on the temple sacrifices for their salvation. Unbelief is disobedience..
I know you need these verses to say that we can lose our salvation because that is what you believe..and as I have said before..you can believe whatever you want...I am just giving people a grace-based view to read and they can make their own minds up with the Holy Spirit within them....
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Yes, it is true, I see the reality of what she has put forth, in her posts vaunting herself saying it is wrong and a sin to identify as a sinner, not once but in more than one post, then in another thread saying how she likes to keep a balanced view of righteousness and sin nature, so suddenly all this high and mighty holier than thou crap gets shown for exactly what it is: holier than thou crap.
K
Your religion is showing again..
The whole book of Hebrews was written to the Hebrews...in their synagogues there were believers and unbelievers..the author od Hebrews is showing through their own religious system about their need to come to Christ.
All sin is willful and if your interpretation is right then all of us are in deep trouble because we all sin everyday and it is willful..lol
The only sin talked about in the book of Hebrews is the sin of unbelief in chapter 3 and 4..then he goes on to talk about the High Priest..the sacrifices of bulls and goats..etc...
The "willful sin" is rejecting Jesus as their Messiah and relying on the temple sacrifices for their salvation. Unbelief is disobedience..
I know you need these verses to say that we can lose our salvation because that is what you believe..and as I have said before..you can believe whatever you want...I am just giving people a grace-based view to read and they can make their own minds up with the Holy Spirit within them....
The whole book of Hebrews was written to the Hebrews...in their synagogues there were believers and unbelievers..the author od Hebrews is showing through their own religious system about their need to come to Christ.
All sin is willful and if your interpretation is right then all of us are in deep trouble because we all sin everyday and it is willful..lol
The only sin talked about in the book of Hebrews is the sin of unbelief in chapter 3 and 4..then he goes on to talk about the High Priest..the sacrifices of bulls and goats..etc...
The "willful sin" is rejecting Jesus as their Messiah and relying on the temple sacrifices for their salvation. Unbelief is disobedience..
I know you need these verses to say that we can lose our salvation because that is what you believe..and as I have said before..you can believe whatever you want...I am just giving people a grace-based view to read and they can make their own minds up with the Holy Spirit within them....
Speak for yourself because we do not all sin every single day !!!
That is your opinion and is not fact and is a misguided false teaching that shows no victory over sin.
There is no different set of standards for this set of believers over this set of believer, a believing Hebrew is to follow the same doctrine as a believing Jew, or believing Gentile. There is no different teaching for them over us !!!
You statement of all sin being willful shows you do not understand the usage of willful sin as the bible gives !!!
The definition of willful sin as the bible lays out is those who deliberately continue sinning without the want to give it up !!!
Not those who sin from time to time or continue to struggle but want to stop after coming to Christ........
Again unbelief is not the only sin addressed in Hebrews.....
Hebrews 2:2, 3:18 talk about disobedience and Hebrews 6:8 speaks of all sins as that is what "bears thorns and briers" refers to............
K
Then you deny the many warnings of not following sound doctrine, right ???
You do know Apostle Paul said a different gospel and a different Jesus can be preached, and if the ways you are walking do not align with what Jesus said then that is following a different Jesus in which Paul says those who do such will not be saved.
There is way to many warnings in the bible about following after lies, yet you seem to be making an excuse for those following false doctrines. The Word of God does not as Jesus Himself said even those who never heard of Him will face punishment in Luke 12, and those who have heard but are disobedient to His ways will face more punishment.
Also I guess you missed such places also of Hebrews 12:8 and 2 Peter 2:14 that says can become illegitimate and accursed and thus not sons.
You do know Apostle Paul said a different gospel and a different Jesus can be preached, and if the ways you are walking do not align with what Jesus said then that is following a different Jesus in which Paul says those who do such will not be saved.
There is way to many warnings in the bible about following after lies, yet you seem to be making an excuse for those following false doctrines. The Word of God does not as Jesus Himself said even those who never heard of Him will face punishment in Luke 12, and those who have heard but are disobedient to His ways will face more punishment.
Also I guess you missed such places also of Hebrews 12:8 and 2 Peter 2:14 that says can become illegitimate and accursed and thus not sons.
K
That is ridiculous as nobody is saying that identity in Christ and sin consciousness is the same thing.
Problem we have is that some on here think that identity we have in Christ is not shown out in our actions, they think it is just a inner spiritual identity. But that is not the case as if we abide in Christ we also are to abide in His way, identity is action as well.
The whole context in Hebrews is misused as the whole point being made there is this:
They only went to the temple once a year to make sacrifice for their sins they did all year, thus they were reminded of what they did in the past that year. Those sacrifices could not do away with that !!!
We now in Christ though do not have to do this once a year, we confess our sins when we do them and put them aside not to worry about them any longer.
Their consciousness had to remember all the wrong they did that year, we do not as sin is handled as it arises now !!!
Problem we have is that some on here think that identity we have in Christ is not shown out in our actions, they think it is just a inner spiritual identity. But that is not the case as if we abide in Christ we also are to abide in His way, identity is action as well.
The whole context in Hebrews is misused as the whole point being made there is this:
They only went to the temple once a year to make sacrifice for their sins they did all year, thus they were reminded of what they did in the past that year. Those sacrifices could not do away with that !!!
We now in Christ though do not have to do this once a year, we confess our sins when we do them and put them aside not to worry about them any longer.
Their consciousness had to remember all the wrong they did that year, we do not as sin is handled as it arises now !!!
I was actually busy looking for the thread in which I remembered you striving for a long time. I found it!!!!!
I didnt bother to go through the entire thread because it is very long but I did enough diligence to prove that you were regular on the thread between the posts I found. Let the evidence speak for itself. I guess I wasnt lying!
The name of the thread: I want to understand the catholic faith so.......................
October 27th #529 ( this was first I found on my search of YOUR POSTS. I do not know if it goes back further)
November 23rd #1085 ( I posted this to you:
Originally Posted by blondieindahouse
Youve done a good job of presenting scripture sis. Leave the rest to God. I pray for all RC to come to the truth and receive salvation. Amen
#1357 3 wks ago, dec 18th ( you are still at it)
I stopped there. I more than proved my point.
I have many flaws magenta but I am not a liar. I am not a slanderer either. I did not bear false witness against you.
I didnt bother to go through the entire thread because it is very long but I did enough diligence to prove that you were regular on the thread between the posts I found. Let the evidence speak for itself. I guess I wasnt lying!
The name of the thread: I want to understand the catholic faith so.......................
October 27th #529 ( this was first I found on my search of YOUR POSTS. I do not know if it goes back further)
November 23rd #1085 ( I posted this to you:
Originally Posted by blondieindahouse
Youve done a good job of presenting scripture sis. Leave the rest to God. I pray for all RC to come to the truth and receive salvation. Amen
#1357 3 wks ago, dec 18th ( you are still at it)
I stopped there. I more than proved my point.
I have many flaws magenta but I am not a liar. I am not a slanderer either. I did not bear false witness against you.
Nope.
Nope. We are talking about homosexuality here, and also the fact that those who have been freed from it need to be walking free, and not identifying with the sin life any longer...not doctrine.
If you think a homosexual who has been saved and now walks in the light is right is claiming to be in tune with the darkness, then you have a problem with more than doctrine.
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Nope. We are talking about homosexuality here, and also the fact that those who have been freed from it need to be walking free, and not identifying with the sin life any longer...not doctrine.
If you think a homosexual who has been saved and now walks in the light is right is claiming to be in tune with the darkness, then you have a problem with more than doctrine.
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