There are four kinds of people in the world...

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blue_ladybug said:
The bible says we fight not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and high powers. To me, that screams GOVERNMENT. It ain't no secret that they want to control every facet of our lives, from what we eat, to what mattress we sleep on..just saying..
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Indeed beloved lady Blue the governments are at the sword's edge in our war at this current time. Nevertheless, government isn't necessarily a bad thing. I see the government as more like a battleground and the forces of both good and evil, Illuminati and Umbranati, are present on the field. Government is one of the gifts according to Bible.

1 Corinthians 12:27-31

[SUP]27 [/SUP]Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
[SUP]31 [/SUP]But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
 
well it never lets me down, i can always find some good laughs in the conspiracy threads
 
*whistles*

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GaryA said:
Go ahead --- call me 'crazy' [ or whatever ] --- the day is coming ( sometime between now and Judgment Day ) when -- "I promise you" -- "so help me Almighty God Jehovah and the Lord Jesus Christ" --- you ARE going to discover that what I am telling you is the TRUTH.
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'crazy' implies that you are not entirely in control of your actions...

i prefer to call you what you really are...a neo gnostic heretic...
 
GaryA said:
How many - and which - of these groups do you think are represented in the CC membership?

:)
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why don't you tell us?

and start naming names if you are so sure...drop the facade from your thinly veiled -slander-
 
GaryA said:
How many - and which - of these groups do you think are represented in the CC membership?

:)
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RachelBibleStudent said:
why don't you tell us?

and start naming names if you are so sure...drop the facade from your thinly veiled -slander-
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Well firstly I am. Then you are illuminati if I ever seen one lady Rachel. And sir Gary, sir Tourist, sir Bushido, lady blondie, of cours beloved sir Blain, sir BeyondET, Sir Stephen63, Sir Nautilus, and of course our Blue Princess Ladybug and all the other fair damsels, kings, queens, knights, princesses, and princes of Christian Chat, praise Jesus for loving and keeping you all well my beloved illuminati.

All CC per being Christian is illuminati lol so praise Jesus. There's only like 2925 active members compared to what some billions of peoples on the internet and around world. So indeed we're the archetypical elite minority group and all that lol. Lol they can never stop our unsecret eucatastrophic agenda to spread praise of Jesus and love eachother despite our obviously physical separations of time and space and our awkward appearance in the actual offline lol, and to have plenty of room to grow and learn ourselves as well, praise Jesus.

Some symbolic illuminati art just cause that's like a theme in conspiracy theories about illuminati.

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RachelBibleStudent said:
'crazy' implies that you are not entirely in control of your actions...

i prefer to call you what you really are...a neo gnostic heretic...
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RachelBibleStudent said:
why don't you tell us?

and start naming names if you are so sure...drop the facade from your thinly veiled -slander-
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I find it very interesting that you would accuse me of slander while at the same time slandering me.

I find it really interesting that you would volunteer to "come out of the shadows" with the indication that you felt that you were specifically being 'targeted' by my statements on the subject. This is very 'telling' indeed... ;)

:)
 
GaryA said:
I find it very interesting that you would accuse me of slander while at the same time slandering me.

I find it really interesting that you would volunteer to "come out of the shadows" with the indication that you felt that you were specifically being 'targeted' by my statements on the subject. This is very 'telling' indeed... ;)

:)
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it isn't slander to point out gnosticism where it is at its most obvious...

and it is pretty obvious from your 'four kinds' statements that you view -anyone- who doesn't buy into your neo gnostic conspiracy heresy as being a member of one of your three 'negative' groups...so your statements targeted and slandered -everyone- who doesn't buy into your false teaching...

but again i challenge you to bring whatever specific accusations you want to make out into the light instead of hiding your intended slander behind comments about what you find 'interesting' or 'telling'
 
anyway for your information the reason i react so strongly against slanderous insinuations that -anyone- is an 'illuminati agent' or a 'closet satanist' or whatever -regardless of who is actually the target- is because i empathize with innocent people who are subjected to those accusations for no other reason than that they are too persistent in opposing the conspiracy theorists' wicked delusions...having been on the receiving end of those baseless defamations myself...

for example one particularly incorrigible reprobate accused me of being a mossad agent...just because i wouldn't agree that the jews are responsible for just about every evil thing in history...
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
and it is pretty obvious from your 'four kinds' statements that you view -anyone- who doesn't buy into your neo gnostic conspiracy heresy as being a member of one of your three 'negative' groups...so your statements targeted and slandered -everyone- who doesn't buy into your false teaching...
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RachelBibleStudent said:
anyway for your information the reason i react so strongly against slanderous insinuations that -anyone- is an 'illuminati agent' or a 'closet satanist' or whatever -regardless of who is actually the target- is because i empathize with innocent people who are subjected to those accusations for no other reason than that they are too persistent in opposing the conspiracy theorists' wicked delusions...having been on the receiving end of those baseless defamations myself...

for example one particularly incorrigible reprobate accused me of being a mossad agent...just because i wouldn't agree that the jews are responsible for just about every evil thing in history...
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It is not my intent to 'slander' anyone; rather, my main intent is to give information about the truth of the reality of the world we live in...

So -- you consider it perfectly valid to call me a "neo gnostic heretic" - because you believe that I exist - that I am that thing which you believe exists in the world - and, that I am such a thing ----- yet, somehow, it is not valid for me to state that I believe that there are 'illuminati' types [ of people ] in the world?????

"Sounds like a double-standard to me..."

I regret it if you have been falsely accused. I am very much against that type of thing. ( "believe-it-or-not" )

Have you ever considered that perhaps you might be over-reacting to conspiracy discussions because of your past experience?

:)
 
The title of this thread reminds me of a saying I read recently. There are two kinds of people in the world, Those with brains but no religion and those with religion and no brains. I dont entirely agree with it but it did make me chuckle.
 
Children of God have to ready to protect themselves from any kind of evil forces.If you walk with Father you going win any kind of fight aganst evil spirits. KJV.1John4;3-4 And avery spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God;and this is that spirit of Antichrist, whereof you have heard that is should come;and even now already is it in the world.You are of God, little children,and have overcome them;because greater is He that is in you,than he that is in the World.,Of course we are preach Gospel to everybody,no metter who they are.In same way, like Jesus did.Members of satanic partys need Good news about Jesus too.Some of them possibly never heard about this way.Satan keep them under fear.He tell to them, Jesus never accept them because they so dirty. Why Christians must preach Gospel to them? They need to know truth about Him too.How He love them. Because we are going judjes them for that,if they don't accept His salvation.,When we go to Heven.How we'll judge them if you never preach them about that. KJV.1Corinthians6;2-3 Do you not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if world shall be judged by you,are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?,Right now, time to preach and teach...
 
blue_ladybug said:
The bible says we fight not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and high powers. To me, that screams GOVERNMENT. It ain't no secret that they want to control every facet of our lives, from what we eat, to what mattress we sleep on..just saying..
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Christian spiritual warfare is not, as many believe, a battle for territory. It is the battle for truth. Not that we don't believe in, are not aware, of or do not have an infallible all sufficient record of that truth as recorded in The Bible. We believers are constantly battling Satan, but not in the way many believe. Some say "you have to "bind Satan" as in doing some actual battle with him using swords or what have you. No! Spiritual warfare is the battle of using God's word to keep Satan's lies out of our minds. (2 Corinthians 10:3-5) - "For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds;) casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ." Satan is constantly attacking truth, especially in the mind of the believer. Biblically and in the spiritual sense, we cannot exceed what is written (Acts 17:11), for to do so is to exceed the boundaries of God's word (truth). When that happens, we get into some very deep waters very quickly. I'm a cessationist, which simply means I believe God no longer uses men for the apostolic gifts anymore). I believe The Holy Spirit does speak to peoples' hearts, but not in the form of language because whatever he says to us personally should be just as authoritative as any scripture written in The Bible. God cannot speak less authoritative on one occasion than he does another. When God is speaking...God is speaking. Jesus Christ the Son is the final speaking and Revelation of God to us, and we have an infallible all sufficient record of that in His Word. Gnosticism is one form of exceeding and or deviating from what is written. even "Christian gnostics" believe that salvation is gained through some divine revelation knowledge found by disengaging the mind. I tell you the truth. The only true revelation knowledge is between the pages of God's Word. If it isn't there, it isn't true. The rich man (still in hell today) pleaded with Abraham to send Lazarus back from the dead to warn his five brothers about hell. Abraham said: "They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. But the rich man replied to Abraham that they would repent if one were to rise from the dead. And what did Abraham then tell the rich man? "If they will not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." There is an inherent power contained in God's word, to change lives, that cannot be found anywhere else.
 
Beloved777...your topic is extra 'heavy' to most pew warmers. It is so easy to occasionally attend a church service somewhere, dress up if needed, even put a few dollars in an offering plate. Your message spoke to me, loud and clear. Let's face it...spiritual warfare, battling satan, HELL itself, etc. is not what most CHRISTIANS hear when attending 'church" or what they view when watching 'religious" TV stations. We have softened and watered down sermons being preached from most pulpits. We rarely hear of GOD's wrath, or holy spirit infillings and modern day Supernatural healings/deliverances being done. My personality is one that needs excitement when I worship JESUS in a congregational setting. Thank you for your insights here!
 
pwrnJC said:
Beloved777...your topic is extra 'heavy' to most pew warmers. It is so easy to occasionally attend a church service somewhere, dress up if needed, even put a few dollars in an offering plate. Your message spoke to me, loud and clear. Let's face it...spiritual warfare, battling satan, HELL itself, etc. is not what most CHRISTIANS hear when attending 'church" or what they view when watching 'religious" TV stations. We have softened and watered down sermons being preached from most pulpits. We rarely hear of GOD's wrath, or holy spirit infillings and modern day Supernatural healings/deliverances being done. My personality is one that needs excitement when I worship JESUS in a congregational setting. Thank you for your insights here!
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There's nothing wrong with enthusiasm while worshipping God, and people differ in what worship enthuses them but just remember that Jesus' service to you has been accomplished in his sacrifice and resurrection. It's time now to serve him to the glory of God alone. Paul spent most of his believing life in chains, and I don't imagine that was very enthusiastic, but God was glorified in that.
 
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