With all due respect, you have not proven any of that. You've taken a label and attached it to the Gospel of Grace based on what you've heard others say about what Grace preachers teach.
I don't have 'practiced talking points'. I go to Scripture to relay what I believe. You've seen me do it time and again. And have agreed with me many times. I'm asking you to take a fresh look at what Grace teachers ACTUALLY teach, and evaluate from there.
-JGIG
I don't have 'practiced talking points'. I go to Scripture to relay what I believe. You've seen me do it time and again. And have agreed with me many times. I'm asking you to take a fresh look at what Grace teachers ACTUALLY teach, and evaluate from there.
-JGIG
Am I mistaken, but I thought this thread was about the Gospel of hyper-grace, not the Gospel of Grace.
Titus 2
11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,12teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, 13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Titus 2
11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,12teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, 13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Starting in 2013, a manufactured label, ‘Hyper-Grace’, was made popular and applied to the Gospel of Grace. Personally, I embrace the term, because in my opinion, the Living God coming to Earth as a man to die for our sin and bear the judgement due us, and then to give those who believe the gift of Righteousness and New Life in order to reconcile us to Himself is a pretty Hyper Grace!
That aside, not all believers embrace the term, and many are uncomfortable with the concept of pure Grace. Rather those who mix Law and Grace use the term as a derogatory label, on which they pile false accusations about what the Gospel of Grace is and how those who walk in Grace live their lives.
That aside, not all believers embrace the term, and many are uncomfortable with the concept of pure Grace. Rather those who mix Law and Grace use the term as a derogatory label, on which they pile false accusations about what the Gospel of Grace is and how those who walk in Grace live their lives.
The above is from an article I wrote nearly 2 years ago. You can read more here if you wish:
So the 'Hyper-Grace' label, though intended as a derogatory term, actually more accurately describes God's Gospel of Grace manifested in the Work of Christ.
Scripture itself confirms that God's Grace is 'hyper':
Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound (G5248 - hyperperisseuō): (from Romans 5:20)
G5248 - hyperperisseuō
- to abound beyond measure, abound exceedingly
- to overflow, to enjoy abundantly
And yes, Grace teaches us \o/!
Grace does not demand, nor does it condemn us when we fail. With never-ending patience, Grace teaches us to, as another translation puts it in Titus 2,
11 For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. 12 It [Grace] teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, 13 while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good. (from Titus 2)
Couple that with these Scriptures:
20 That, however, is not the way of life you learned 21 when you heard about Christ and were taught in him in accordance with the truth that is in Jesus. 22 You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; 23 to be made new in the attitude of your minds; 24 and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness. (from Eph. 4)
8 But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. 9 Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices 10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. (from Col. 3)
8 But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. 9 Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices 10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. (from Col. 3)
And you can see that learning to say 'No' to ungodliness is a process - and for ALL of us it is a life-long process as we are being renewed - recognizing more and more who we are in Christ. This is the renewing of our minds.
Putting our focus on ourselves is a mistake - we are exhorted to do the following as believers:
Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, 2 fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith. (from Hebrews 12)
The throwing off of hindrances is possible only if we're fixing our eyes on Jesus, not on self, for HE is the pioneer (other translations say author) and perfecter of faith.
6 Therefore, as you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him, 7 rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, abounding in thanksgiving. (from Col. 2)
Sometimes we're going to sin. Some may live in a pattern of sin for a period of time in their lives. Those who live under a system of Law or a circle of denominational or an ideological circle of laws will actually sin more because the Bible says that law arouses sinful passions (Rom. 7).
Live by the Spirit and His Grace and sin will be reduced in your life.
Why?
Because Grace teaches us.
What does law actually do for us?
Nothing except point out our sin. It does nothing to keep us from sinning, it simply sits there accusing us when we do sin.
Grace provides a redemptive context when we do sin - the Work of Christ and who we are in Him - and assures us thus:
My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. (from 1 Jn. 2)
And that advocacy relies on who He is, not on what we do or do not do:
25 Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them. (from Heb. 7)
That's what the Gospel of Grace teaches in a nutshell - Fix your eyes on Jesus:
- Who Jesus is
- What He came to do
- What that actually accomplished, and
- Who we are in Him
Out of grasping those Truths and fixing our eyes on Christ, REST comes, and then His Fruit \o/!
-JGIG