Self Examination: Do you understand the Gospel?

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InSpiritInTruth

InSpiritInTruth

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3Scoreand10 said:
Keep believing that you live without sin and be very afraid. Very, very afraid.
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Quite the opposite friend, I have been set free from the bondage of sin by the Son of God, just as Jesus said! His peace and His joy He also has given unto me, and I rejoice in His Love for me! Perfect love has no fear friend. Don't doubt the words of Jesus, or the power of God to set you free from sin and death, but believe by faith! :)
 
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InSpiritInTruth said:
Quite the opposite friend, I have been set free from the bondage of sin by the Son of God, just as Jesus said! His peace and His joy He also has given unto me, and I rejoice in His Love for me! Perfect love has no fear friend. Don't doubt the words of Jesus, or the power of God to set you free from sin and death, but believe by faith! :)
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So does your flesh sin? Yet it isn't attributed to you? Is this the angle you're taking?
 
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InSpiritInTruth said:
Quite the opposite friend, I have been set free from the bondage of sin by the Son of God, just as Jesus said! His peace and His joy He also has given unto me, and I rejoice in His Love for me! Perfect love has no fear friend. Don't doubt the words of Jesus, or the power of God to set you free from sin and death, but believe by faith! :)
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I never doubt the words of my Lord and Savior. I am at peace with who I am.
I am a child of God. I have eternal life.
My born again Spirit does not sin but this flesh I live in is still sinful and from time to time the flesh wins the battle that rages between my Spirit and my flesh. When that happenes, I confess that sin and ask My Father in heaven to forgive me and He answers that prayer.
I am looking forward to the day I will leave this flesh and it's sin nature.
This assurance that I have is based on faith and faith alone.
 
InSpiritInTruth

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BenFTW said:
So does your flesh sin? Yet it isn't attributed to you? Is this the angle you're taking?
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Not at all. Sin originates in the heart, in your thoughts, and is then often acted on outwardly. When you are given a new heart in rebirth then your thoughts will become clean and your outward actions will follow your heart.
 
InSpiritInTruth

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3Scoreand10 said:
I never doubt the words of my Lord and Savior. I am at peace with who I am.
I am a child of God. I have eternal life.
My born again Spirit does not sin but this flesh I live in is still sinful and from time to time the flesh wins the battle that rages between my Spirit and my flesh. When that happenes, I confess that sin and ask My Father in heaven to forgive me and He answers that prayer.
I am looking forward to the day I will leave this flesh and it's sin nature.
This assurance that I have is based on faith and faith alone.
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The Lord can give you a new nature, believe it, or not. :)
 
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InSpiritInTruth said:
Not at all. Sin originates in the heart, in your thoughts, and is then often acted on outwardly. When you are given a new heart in rebirth then your thoughts will become clean and your outward actions will follow your heart.
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So in being a new creation and having a new heart, you never sin, not once since you've been born-again? I understand we are to renew our minds to these truths (dead to sin, alive unto God), but it is a process. Do you truly believe that you haven't committed one sin since being a child of God?
 
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InSpiritInTruth said:
Not at all. Sin originates in the heart, in your thoughts, and is then often acted on outwardly. When you are given a new heart in rebirth then your thoughts will become clean and your outward actions will follow your heart.
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What we have here folks is a man who has elevated himself to be egual with the sinless one who died for our sins.
Dangerous territory. Very dangerous tertitory.
 
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and only someone who THINKS they never do anything wrong ( because it is not reality) would be as harsh and jugdemental as some are. arrogant and talking down to people. you know, God gives grace to the humble and resists the proud. but, they do not care about grace anyway.
 
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Would Jesus tell people not to sin if it was impossible?

"Go forth and sin no more!"
 
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I am witnessing people make arguments for doctrines that are completely contrary to Jesus' finished work at the cross of Calvary. Some facts about His sacrifice is that through Him we have been reconciled to God and have forgiveness of sins. Right? The veil has been broken, that which separated man from God (I.e, sin) has been dealt with so that man would be reconciled to God. That is the plan of reconciliation.

How do you go from faith in that truth, Christ crucified and resurrected for the purpose of reconciling sinful man to God, and then go to a doctrine that alienates man from God due to sin? Did I just miss something? Did Christ not just go to the cross 2000 years ago to deal with sin so that we would no longer be alienated from God? I am perplexed at how these doctrines of sin confession and repentance are being used to distance God, our heavenly Father, from His children when He made sure nothing could separate them from His love by Christ's sacrifice.

Do people understand the Gospel? These are simple, foundational, truths about the Gospel and yet, some how, something has gone amiss that people are trying to obtain something Jesus already paid for with His blood (I.e, forgiveness of sin and reconciliation/communion with God). I am genuinely perplexed and annoyed even, that people are espousing doctrines contrary to the basic tenets of the faith.

You ARE reconciled to God, you HAVE forgiveness of sins and you ARE in the light for you are in Jesus Christ. Don't listen to people's religious ideas that replace faith in Christ for some practice. People, please, grasp the very basic tenets of the faith and understand what Jesus accomplished for you. Please. It is frustrating to witness people trying to obtain something that Jesus paid for with His sacrifice only to have it ignored and sought after through some other means. Give the glory to God and commune with God. Have fellowship, you are reconciled! :)
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if the gospels, was wrote by some one in the crowd, then the gospel, would only be filled with parables.


34 All these things Jesus said to the crowds in parables; indeed, he said nothing to them without a parable.35 This was to fulfill what was spoken by the prophet:
"I will open my mouth in parables;
I will utter what has been hidden since the foundation of the world."Matthew 13

what he said to his apostles , has been added by them.

yet they also, had to wait till pentecoste.

for the answer to a new covenant. was not given in the gospel. the answers are given in the other books, to the hows and whys. etc
 
InSpiritInTruth

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BenFTW said:
So in being a new creation and having a new heart, you never sin, not once since you've been born-again? I understand we are to renew our minds to these truths (dead to sin, alive unto God), but it is a process. Do you truly believe that you haven't committed one sin since being a child of God?
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I'm not saying a person will never sin again after being born again, but sins should be very few and far between if one is truly born again. And if they sin, they will be grieved in their heart and repent of that sin asking the Lords forgiveness, and He is also willing to forgive.

And yes, this cleansing of the insides takes some time, but by resisting temptation this struggle will become less and less as you die to self and to sin, and put on the righteousness of Jesus Christ. And I can say with all confidence that since I have been given a new garment I have kept it unspotted by the ways of the world, as I also plan to walk with the Lord in white.
 
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Magenta said:
Would Jesus tell people not to sin if it was impossible?

"Go forth and sin no more!"
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Some people don't believe the words of Jesus that if the Son makes you free from sin, you shall be free indeed! Not believing the words of Jesus is not of faith, but of doubt.
 
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InSpiritInTruth said:
I'm not saying a person will never sin again after being born again, but sins should be very few and far between if one is truly born again. And if they sin, they will be grieved in their heart and repent of that sin asking the Lords forgiveness, and He is also willing to forgive.

And yes, this cleansing of the insides takes some time, but by resisting temptation this struggle will become less and less as you die to self and to sin, and put on the righteousness of Jesus Christ. And I can say with all confidence that since I have been given a new garment I have kept it unspotted by the ways of the world, as I also plan to walk with the Lord in white.
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So if and not when? Is it possible to live this life and not sin a day again? I mean truly, in all aspects of mind, and body?
 
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What we have here folks is a man who has elevated himself to be egual with the sinless one who died for our sins.
Dangerous territory. Very dangerous tertitory.
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Luke 6:40
The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
 
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Luke 6:40 (NASB)
[SUP]40 [/SUP] "A pupil is not above his teacher; but everyone, after he has been fully trained, will be like his teacher.
 
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InSpiritInTruth

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Believe in the words of the Lord people, He is true to His words. If the Son says He can set you free from sin, then believe it by faith. Ya'll have a great evening! :)
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
It's quite simple. Hath forgiven means sins that had already been committed were forgiven. It says nothing about future sins.

That's what this is for
And forgive us our sins, for we ourselves also forgive everyone who is indebted to us. And do not lead us into temptation.” Luke 11:4

For if you forgive people their sins, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive people, neither will your Father forgive your sins. Matthew 6:14-15​
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Are you looking for the difference in dispensations? Who is the audience to whom Jesus is speaking?
Jesus teaching to the nation of Israel, duh:) This is not Church Age doctrine. Man, so many of these conflicts in the different threads could be easily solved if people would just rightly divide the word of truth and understand Church Age doctrine. Who is our spokesman people? Who is our chosen vessel...Apostle Paul!
 
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You told us one time that you had the 2 witnesses in revelation living in you.....you said that in the context that you could pour forth fire on people because of these witnesses that lived inside of you......well that's the way I read it.. perhaps that is not what you meant?..or did you?

...explain that one out a little more for us...thanks....because it's all kinda creepy...if you know what I mean?

InSpiritInTruth said:
Believe in the words of the Lord people, He is true to His words. If the Son says He can set you free from sin, then believe it by faith. Ya'll have a great evening! :)
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I don't think those that lean towards Peter as being the head of the church as I have seen some talk about around here would like you talking about Paul being the chosen apostle to us ...

..myself when Jesus said to Peter about the keys of the kingdom.. , He was NOT saying for Peter to have a "special place "...that is just the natural mind making up something...I don't believe for one second that Peter was at any time the head of any church..catholic or other wise....


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Are you looking for the difference in dispensations? Who is the audience to whom Jesus is speaking?
Jesus teaching to the nation of Israel, duh:) This is not Church Age doctrine. Man, so many of these conflicts in the different threads could be easily solved if people would just rightly divide the word of truth and understand Church Age doctrine. Who is our spokesman people? Who is our chosen vessel...Apostle Paul!
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