If homosexuality is an abomination to God, why do some Christians support it?

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PeacefulWarrior said:
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Sincerely,
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Um.....yeah.

Posting that graph doesn't answer the question as to why you don't believe Jesus and the Holy Spirit are in agreement regarding the condemnation of homosexuality.
 
I'm not sure who these Christians are that "condone" homosexuality.

I don't condone it. Neither would I try to say (as if I had the authority to do so :rolleyes:) that homosexuals are "going to Hell".... any more than I would say that an alcoholic is "going to Hell". Or, a liar.... or a prideful, self-righteous person...

When a person is saved, do they immediately stop sinning? Or is it more of a gradual, lifetime effort to become more like Christ on a day by day basis?

When Jesus told the woman at the well to "go, and sin no more"... do you think she never sinned again? That she never "slipped up"?

I believe the Word is pretty clear that homosexuality is a sin.... but, it's just a sin.... it's not THE sin.
 
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It seemed a rather moot point... what was gained in its presentation? "Jesus didn't mention homosexuality." Yeah, and? ... Still waiting. VVhats the significance of that? Oh okay, just arguing for argument's sake? Okay, awesome. :)

Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit are of one accord. They don't contradict one another, if God deems something evil, neither Son nor Holy Spirit will come in disagreement. That one or the other didn't say anything on it is irrelevant, and that one did is significant.
 
Budman said:
Um.....yeah.

Posting that graph doesn't answer the question as to why you don't believe Jesus and the Holy Spirit are in agreement regarding the condemnation of homosexuality.
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I agree that the Trinity is always in agreement (Magenta does as well). This was never the issue at hand, until you made it so, which is why I called it silly.

I disagreed with your simplification of Christ being God; 'Men, inspired by Holy Spirit, wrote against homosexuality, therefore Jesus condemns homosexuality'

Budman said:
With all due respect Magenta - Jesus did mention homosexuality. The Holy Spirit inspired the Scriptures. The Holy Spirit is God. Jesus is also God. Thus, Scripture is from Jesus as well as from the Father.

And so, Jesus condemned homosexuality in the Bible.
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PeacefulWarrior said:
I agree that the Trinity is always in agreement (Magenta does as well). This was never the issue at hand, until you made it so, which is why I called it silly.

I disagreed with your simplification of Christ being God; 'Men, inspired by Holy Spirit, wrote against homosexuality, therefore Jesus condemns homosexuality'
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The point is that Magenta's point is moot. It means nothing, and adds no value to the conversation. This is like me entering this conversation and saying, "Chocolate milk is sweet." Thanks for the input, back on topic. lol :P
 
BenFTW said:
It seemed a rather moot point... what was gained in its presentation? "Jesus didn't mention homosexuality." Yeah, and? ... Still waiting. VVhats the significance of that? Oh okay, just arguing for argument's sake? Okay, awesome. :)

Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit are of one accord. They don't contradict one another, if God deems something evil, neither Son nor Holy Spirit will come in disagreement. That one or the other didn't say anything on it is irrelevant, and that one did is significant.
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Please stop assuming you know why I say the things I do and also stop talking down to me you hypocrite.
 
I disagreed with your simplification of Christ being God; 'Men, inspired by Holy Spirit, wrote against homosexuality, therefore Jesus condemns homosexuality'
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It may sound simplistic to you, but it doesn't make it any less true. Homosexuality is condemned in the Scriptures. God the Holy Spirit, inspired the Bible. Thus, the Father, and the Son, are in agreement with what the Scriptures state regarding homosexuality.
 
Magenta said:
Please stop assuming you know why I say the things I do and also stop talking down to me you hypocrite.
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Still on with that? :confused: I think you should put me on ignore, you can't hold a common conversation without playing victim and trying to instigate trouble. Please do put me on ignore, this is tiring.
 
BenFTW said:
The point is that Magenta's point is moot. It means nothing, and adds no value to the conversation. This is like me entering this conversation and saying, "Chocolate milk is sweet." Thanks for the input, back on topic. lol :P
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Read her "moot" point in context, BenFTW.
(Interestingly enough, "moot" actually means "debatable")
 
BenFTW said:
Still on with that? :confused: I think you should put me on ignore, you can't hold a common conversation without playing victim and trying to instigate trouble.
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So your false accusations and self righteous assumptions are not trying to cause trouble? I can't help but notice how you always white wash what you do and try to blame what goes on between us all on me. I don't appreciate it. Just letting you know. If you can't handle having your hypocrisy pointed out then maybe you should put me on ignore.
 
BenFTW said:
Still on with that? :confused: I think you should put me on ignore, you can't hold a common conversation without playing victim and trying to instigate trouble. Please do put me on ignore, this is tiring.
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I'm about to add you, myself, BenFTW.
This isn't the BenFTW, I knew--what's gotten into you?
 
If I was a Homosexual, or, for that matter, any non-Christian coming on to this forum, I don't think I would be enticed into Christianity by these edifying discussions...
 
Budman said:
It may sound simplistic to you, but it doesn't make it any less true. Homosexuality is condemned in the Scriptures. God the Holy Spirit, inspired the Bible. Thus, the Father, and the Son, are in agreement with what the Scriptures state regarding homosexuality.
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Right.
The part that was simplistic, Budman -- Is the part where you tried saying that Scripture = Inspired Man = Holy Spirit = Jesus = God.
The image, I shared, shows the problem with calling Jesus "Father" or calling the H.S. "God".
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
I'm about to add you, myself, BenFTW.
This isn't the BenFTW, I knew--what's gotten into you?
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I don't know what you're talking about. Magenta has been on the war path this last week and is exceptionally defensive to the degree of defamation, insinuating and flat out saying I am attacking her. I am not. I have even requested she private message me what assumptions I have made in order for me to correct them. She didn't. She is now being an instigator, any comment and she goes off. She needs to put me on ignore if she can't handle regular, common, conversation or take a break from CC. It isn't healthy and causes strife.

I have nothing against you, but if you wish to add me to ignore you are free to do so.
 
BenFTW said:
I don't know what you're talking about. Magenta has been on the war path this last week and is exceptionally defensive to the degree of defamation, insinuating and flat out saying I am attacking her. I am not. I have even requested she private message me what assumptions I have made in order for me to correct them. She didn't. She is now being an instigator, any comment and she goes off. She needs to put me on ignore if she can't handle regular, common, conversation or take a break from CC. It isn't healthy and causes strife.

I have nothing against you, but if you wish to add me to ignore you are free to do so.
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Sorry man, I don't have time for this drama.
I read through the thread from the beginning.
Her comments made sense to me -- especially within the context of everything else that was said.

People wanna pick fights and then pick sides.
I choose the side of the one who shows the most fruits of the spirit.
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
Right.
The part that was simplistic, Budman -- Is the part where you tried saying that Scripture = Inspired Man = Holy Spirit = Jesus = God.
The image, I shared, shows the problem with calling Jesus "Father" or calling the H.S. "God".
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I didn't call Jesus the Father, and the Holy Spirit is indeed God.
 
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