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Bro, I did say what I had to say, I always do if I feel someone needs to hear it. maybe each person should be taken as they are and not measured against past experiences with other Christians. and I agree there is no need and actually we are told to do things quietly for others so I cant disagree. ive only been here for maybe 2 months I come and go. I cant say ill be back here ever again after today, I may walk outside and fall over or lose my arms ect....who knows what tomorrow will bring. its passed through my mind a few times wondering if there was any fruit to be had, this original post though was what it was. if I did wish to depart with a statement such as this though.......how is that offensive to you?
really I was just looking for a yes your thinking about it or no bro I like it here no doudt there's issues here but I didn't mean it that way but it seemed you were avoiding my question with wording like if God willing who knows what tomorrow brings walk outside and fall over loose a arm etc these are avoiding the question smoke and mirror answers in my thoughts and It really doesn't offend me if anybody disagrees with me I may flip a table of coarse I've done it doesn't mean I'm offended and if you leave I'll wave to my friend and say hope to see ya again friend.
if you want to post one saying your wondering if there's fruit to be had knock your self out I'm surely not going to be offended I might try and say man yo just let it go because I have left before and I felt alittle stupid for doing so my strength was weak no doudt because as mentioned before I like the people here and to be honest some of the arguing debating I like also now that I'm back again it gets me thinking on things,, it allows meaningful substance to flow in my mind it gives me a choice.
I've been through a lot in my life I'm over the smoke and mirror thing so when I sense something long the lines if that's really what is behind it all I will respond sry. Give me substance in whatever it may be either in a nice way or a mean way or both I don't care I look at it all with value and I'm not talking about your thread I'm talking about in general.
Because if there's anybody that knows about being bull headed it's ME and sometimes I need it right in the face or in a soft voice also but I may not like it either way at that moment or I may like it at that moment but I will reason with myself and come to a personal conclusion, any other way I'm fishing in a barrel with no fish it.
but if you really want to know what is wrong with the churches and people of this world it's the smoke and mirrors Is WHAT is wrong with churches and people,,, debating arguing etc. is being real I'm not saying at all its right but at least I know someone is being them self with me I'd rather have that no doudt then the smoke and mirrors thing..I think we all know who's temptation toy that is.
it would be quit clear if everyone was striving to be them self and not pulling the wool over eyes we all could easily see who has good intentions and who has bad intentions and who can except or not except, to love a enemy or not love a enemy along with other such statements and I'm not saying we all don't don't do some of things from time to time but preferably we all should be striving to be more good then harm. A lot of preachers wouldnt be preaching we wouldn't have this great divide without the smoke and mirrors where it's hard to tell who's being real and who's not,, some people are quite clear as a bell others I have to do a double take on them.
a thousand people can tell one person to help the needy but if the person needs to be told to do it is that really coming from the heart true love,, it's like excepting Jesus as your savior no one can tell you how to except Jesus it's got to come from the heart. Incouragement is a great virtue but demanding is fruitless I know cause I've done it.