Rapture= false teaching

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charisenexcelcis

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You can not argue with the absolute ,except ,may be shut them down.
When they are making their point, and the moment they start in ,with another scripture, other then Rev.
You point out the infraction against the rule in Rev.22/18 that , shuts them down ,dead, in the water, then, you bring up Rev.10/4 Explain Rev.10/4 with out introducing any other bible point or version .You baffle them with you intellect.
Mind You,You may lose a so called friend, but ,you may win a soul for Christ. I have been eased out of many a church in the middle of their testimony on their version of the pope hating so called Christians.
Some People Kiss you ,while other people have to reassess their view ,and really, try to change the subject.
So keeping to the rule of Rev.22/18 it is a defensive method ,in favour of your church ,.As if he needs help.Walt2000
Again, there are no "stand alone" books in the bible: one Divine Author, one eternal covenant, one message.
 
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walt2000

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I'm not using it for anything. He wants to use it to prove that anybody that doesn't know the thunders is a false prophet, which in itself is not Biblical. The chart really has no value whatsoever other than that.

The Seven Thunder Don't Say who is right or wrong .I just says The method is solved. There is a right way to interpret this, and a wrong way .We are all Christians at lest most of us. The wrong way is false ,You have the right to prove me wrong .I have been at this for over forty years and a Christian for over thirty years before this .I Have never been proved wrong .Sorry if the right Way offends some of you ,but that is life .walt2000
 
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I'm not using it for anything. He wants to use it to prove that anybody that doesn't know the thunders is a false prophet, which in itself is not Biblical. The chart really has no value whatsoever other than that.



The Seven Thunder Don't Say who is right or wrong .I just says The method is solved. There is a right way to interpret this, and a wrong way .We are all Christians at lest most of us. The wrong way is false ,You have the right to prove me wrong .I have been at this for over forty years and a Christian for over thirty years before this .I Have never been proved wrong .Sorry if the right Way offends some of you ,but that is life .walt2000

Age doesn't equate wisdom, my dear friend...I've been at it for 33 years (every day is a lesson) and every day is a learning experience. The catholic church is the beast of revelation. *deflects tomatoes* read the book of Daniel. You haven't been proven wrong in your own eyes....PRIDE COMES BEFORE THE FALL!
 
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The catholic church is the beast of revelation. ? I am not that sure I have been thrown out (of that forum with and few others) walt2000
 
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The catholic church is the beast of revelation. ? I am not that sure I have been thrown out (of that forum with and few others) walt2000
Please read the book of daniel. The vision that Daniel has about the the identification of the 4 kingdoms..
 
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walt2000

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Ignorance doe's not make things go away. Those charts are consecutive and in order Rev.1 to 22
The flow of scripture is as it came out of the bible, as out of the mouth of Christ ,and in the same order ,Christ gave it to John. And in the same order .All I did is change the space',walt2000
 
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Ignorance lol
please judgement is reserved for, the hard heart :) I can't even post beyond that, I'm so shocked lol
 
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miktre

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I'm not using it for anything. He wants to use it to prove that anybody that doesn't know the thunders is a false prophet, which in itself is not Biblical. The chart really has no value whatsoever other than that.

The Seven Thunder Don't Say who is right or wrong .I just says The method is solved. There is a right way to interpret this, and a wrong way .We are all Christians at lest most of us. The wrong way is false ,You have the right to prove me wrong .I have been at this for over forty years and a Christian for over thirty years before this .I Have never been proved wrong .Sorry if the right Way offends some of you ,but that is life .walt2000
You have never been proved right with scripture, neither and can't back up what you claim with the word.
Things you have posted appear to be wrong. You have your eighth thunder sounding before 5,6,and 7.
Another problem you run into is where Revelations quotes Christ so we are to know when He comes. He says "Behold I come as a thief". If it was a stand alone book then it would not quote Him so we go back and learn the meaning of the quote.

Your chart has no value other making yourself out to be proved wrong or right. There is nothing to prove or disprove that is of any value.

Once again, please start a new thread on the topic. Continually reposting of the same chart(no matter how big) isn't going to make more true. You are spamming instead of conversing or educating anyone. Start a new thread or post your views with scripture concerning the rapture.
 
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greatkraw

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the Church is completed at the rapture

she is taken to heaven and god starts dealing with Israel again

it is all in the Bible
 
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miktre

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the Church is completed at the rapture

she is taken to heaven and god starts dealing with Israel again

it is all in the Bible
To bad you don't have any scripture to back that fable up.
 
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greatkraw

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To bad you don't have any scripture to back that fable up.

you know I have posted it all before

you further know that proof texting proves nothing - you are an example of that - because you twist scripture - in fact no one can properly comprehend the scripture unless they have the Holy Spirit ie they are Born Again

you peddle your pathetic heresies because you are afraid of the doctrine of the imminency of the Rapture
 
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walt2000

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Well Know this ,I am not trying to get any body to think in any new way . I am just telling you that there is another way to understand this Revelation ,It was opened up to me, in this fastion and it makes sense (to me ).I am not the only one that sees Revelation through the Seven Thunders I hope We Christians figure it out .I hope we have a long time to do it .walt2000
 
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The interpretation of Revelations.


The Revelation of Christ to John
Open to all,no holds barred.with belate.
Only one Rule. That Christ made himself Rev.22/18 -20
walt2000(Acts 2:16-17) “But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:”

Walt, you just broke your own rule here by implying that the seven thunders is interpreted according to the Book of Acts. Revelations said the seven thunders were sealed. It doesn't say they will be unsealed by prophets. You will have to add to Revelations to teach this doctrine.Beware of Rev 22:18-20


Ask anybody,(that Say's he is a prophet of Rev.) if they can interpet Rev .10, and tell you what the seven thunders said to the church's, if they stay within Revelation, and don't use any other book , then they are worth listening too, if they can not then leave them alone, they are false prophets.They all commit the same sin ,of Revelation 22/18 and are condemned.To with the plagues of Rev.
It says nowhere in Revelations or any where else in the Bible that those who don't unseal the seven thunders is a false prophet. This is Lie! It doesn't even say when they will be unsealed.
It never says that the book of Revelations doesn't confirm other books in the Bible. This is a Lie! I already gave you an example:"Behold, I come as a thief" Can you interpret the meaning of this scripture??? You can not without the Gospels and Pauls teaching, thus proving you wrong.

1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified by his angel unto his servant John:

1:3 Blessed he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time at hand.


Unless you are compelled to study this ,leave it alone .Read Rev.22/18-19 and underline it.​


22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, if anyone adds to them, may God add to him the plagues which are written in this book. 22:19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, may God take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book.​


This is not a End of Time Prediction. It is a true interp. of Revelation no time is Known
[/quote]Walt, you just broke your own rule here by implying that the seven thunders is interpreted according to the Book of Acts. Revelations said the seven thunders were sealed. It doesn't say they will be unsealed by prophets. You will have to add to Revelations to teach this doctrine.Beware of Rev 22:18-20

I'mThe one that opened it .In1968 They were sealed,sorry
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walt2000

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Gog and Magog ? Revelation of Christ ?
The Gog And Magog War (Ezekiel 38) ,Rev. .
Rev.22/18 Don't Mix them


Tell me where I am in err?walt2000





Revelations Of Seven Thunders Explaining Flash Card
Those lines and ovals ,as you call them are similarity's between the thunders.And the area around the Thunders are really self explanatory.

GET MY CHART AND LOOK.

7 the top horizontal line is Christ's victory,in yellow.
6 next horizontal line is in Red ,The no. of Man.
5 line next is Christ's protection,souls protected,Come up my people.Word
4 line from the top is the no. of Earth.
3 line is the trinity no.Father(God),Son Of (God),Holy spirit, Word of (God)
2 this line is the union With (God)
1 is the no. of unity,(God)
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7 promises to the church's on the Earth ,things Thu seen,with (God)

The first four 1,2,3,4, are the four spirits that roam the Earth.

7 th.Thunder vertically is mystery Babylon White horse winner on Earth.
6 th. Thunder vertically is man.on Earth
5.th. Thunder vertically is Babylon Fallen Preaching to the Earth.

4.th. Thunder vertically is The word on the Earth.
3 rd. Thunder vertically is witnesses on Earth.
2 nd. Thunder vertically is union with Christ on Earth.
1 st. Thunder vertically is White horse ,winner with Christ on Earth.

5,6,7 is the consequences of the word .The trinity on Earth

even a
Fundamentalist Should see that lay ed out.To not see that, is a disservice,two the author.
look how the victory lines up at the top.
look how the winepress's line up ,next down.
look at Earth Quakes and the Great river line up horizontally.
look at the promised White clothed protection line up horizontally.
look how come up my people lines up with come out my people.
look how the seals,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 line up with the trumpets,and vials line up with each other.
look how wormwood on water,blood on water,line up
look how burning mountain in sea ,and blood on sea ,line up.
look how the two Babylons line up with each other.
look how The Thunders start with a White Horse,and end with a White horse .

And that is just ten item's,there are gemartria connections yet to them all ..

Revelations Of Seven Thunders Explaining Flash Card
Those lines and ovals ,as you call them are similaritys between the thunders.And the area around the Thunders are really self explanatory.


The Number 7
The number 7 perhaps speaks of perfection or completeness. God's complete provision in His dealings with men.
Some examples:
7 days make a complete week
7 colors make a perfect spectrum
7 great land masses form a complete earth
7 notes make a perfect scale
7 great bodies of water form a complete ocean
There were the 7 days of creation as well as many other examples throughout the Scriptures:
Zech 3:9 For behold, the stone that I have laid before Joshua: upon the stone are seven eyes. Behold, I will engrave its inscription,' says the LORD of hosts, `And I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
Rev 1:4 John, to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne,
To the Jew every 7th day was a Sabbath.
Every 7th year was a Sabbatical year.
After the 7th Sabbatical year was the year of Jubilee.
Every 7th month was holy and had 3 feasts.
There were 7 weeks between Passover and Pentecost.
The Passover feast lasted 7 days.
The feast of Tabernacles lasted 7 days.
At Passover 14 lambs (7 twice) were offered daily.
At Tabernacles 14 lambs (7 twice) and 70 bullocks were offered.
At Pentecost 7 lambs were offered.
The time of mourning the dead was fixed to 7 days.
and so on...
Seven continues to have symbolic prominence in the New Testament, with Jesus telling Peter that it is not enough that he forgive the brother who had sinned against him seven times, but "seventy times seven" (Matthew 18:21-22). Seven is also the number of Greek-speaking Christians appointed by the Twelve Apostles in Acts 6:3.
The New Testament concludes in a "great surge of sevens, with hep tads, explicit and implicit, tumbling forth from many verses."
In the Book of Revelation there were:
The 7 letters to the 7 Churches.
The 7 Seal Judgments
The 7 Trumpet Judgments
The 7 Bowl Judgments
The 7 Golden Lamp stands
The 7 Stars
The 7 Angels
The 7 Spirits of God
The Lamb with 7 Horns and 7 Eyes.
The 7 Lamps of Fire
The 7 Thunders
The Fiery Red Dragon with 7 heads and 7 Crowns.
The Leopard-Like Beast with 7 heads.
The Scarlet-Colored Beast with 7 heads.
The 7 Mountains The 7 Kings
interrupt. Revelations.




Look and see (7th Seal 's)
the (7 Trumpets,) (7 bowls=vials)and
all so Seven Thunders.Line up.walt2000
 
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walt2000

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I'mThe one that opened it .In1968 They were sealed,sorry
Walt2000
 
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walt2000

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Originally Posted by walt2000

You can not argue with the absolute ,except ,may be shut them down.
When they are making their point, and the moment they start in ,with another scripture, other then Rev.
You point out the infraction against the rule in Rev.22/18 that , shuts them down ,dead, in the water, then, you bring up Rev.10/4 Explain Rev.10/4 with out introducing any other bible point or version .You baffle them with you intellect.
Mind You,You may lose a so called friend, but ,you may win a soul for Christ. I have been eased out of many a church in the middle of their testimony on their version of the pope hating so called Christians.
Some People Kiss you ,while other people have to reassess their view ,and really, try to change the subject.
So keeping to the rule of Rev.22/18 it is a defensive method ,in favour of your church ,.As if he needs help.Walt2000
 
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walt2000

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I opened it when Computers were a Stick .
and I have the paper work to prove it walt2000
 
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