An Apology

[JennaLeanne]

This is most definitely not gonna teach him a thing x

 

[jasonj]

Quote "buddy, I hope you don't take a lot of the examples on this site as examples of Christ or His word. I hope and pray you don't let all the reminders of things you have done wrong in the past, no matter how many they were condemn you and chase you away from repentance that you have expressed 2 times in this thread."

I don't know what thread you read but there was no repentance in it. This person is posting under a new name.You're new,so please dont condemn the rest of us for rebuking this person. If he has hurts he wants to share,he'll get all the support he needs. But to mock God and saying "He craps on you" is 100% unacceptable. He's done this several times here,mocking God. And this is why he is receiving rebuke. Also he is mocking other posters. People have been more than patient with him,yet he keeps it up. If he wants to live like the world,go do it. He wont get Gods blessing. Im very tired of people acting like God is all love and mocking him has no consequences. It does and this person,who isn't even telling the truth about his age, is about to find that out.

you have the right to feel as you do, and I condemned no one, simply pointed to the fact forgiveness isn't conditional except upon the request to be forgiven and I stand by every word I have written in this thread with confidence and full assurance of Jesus Words. The word of God identifies Him as Love actually, sometimes tough Love and Love doesn't erase consequences. But really look at The teachings of Jesus and you will find bless those who insult you, forgive freely. if the Lord says "if your brother sins against you 7 times in a day and says I repent, forgive Him" or not 7 times but 77 times, or if its 7 times 70....ill go with His instruction over people who disregard His instruction. you say I'm condemning someone, really what I did was saw a group of "Christians" neglecting to forgive someone who did express repentance much better in His second apology, and also displayed a change in attitude. you are all saying well hes done this a lot before, so what, forgiveness isn't limited by what we have done in the past. I have been forgiven far too much, to refuse to forgive anyone who asks for forgiveness. I offered forgiveness after His 2nd apology wich I believed. My reaction to His first "apology" I stand by also as the right reaction from someone who is a follower of Jesus Christ and His teachings. do we administer the consequences when someone mocks us? or are we told to forgive someone who asks? I have no need to defend anything I have said here, it is commended By the Lords teachings. Blaine and a few others reacted in accordance to those teachings and are worthy of commendation.

I think you are confusing me condemning someone with me pointing out the lack of a good example in refusing to forgive the guy. yall are trying to limit and put future behavior on him because you have observed his past behavior, people can change in Christ, and I thank God for that. if he posts a similar message in the future and asks forgiveness, ill be right there to forgive him and offer prayer, and let him know that Christians forgive, its what we do.

I'm tired of a lot of things also but it doesn't really matter much, ill still do my best to follow Jesus even when I'm tired of what others do to represent him. its more about Jesus feelings on things than my own. God bless you

 

[jasonj]

Blue is right.

He's apologizing because we did not meet his expectations of us to be rich and famous Christians? That is classic passive-aggressiveness, my friend. To take it as a genuine apology is like pretending to be stupid. It does you no good and it does not change him. It only lets him carry on with his foolish and ignorant ways. That is not love for us to not help set him free. He has to know the truth and the truth will set him free.

He apologized a second time, and left a 3rd comment that I think maybe some folks missed in the thread.

 

[jasonj]

I agree with RickyZ there have been times when i'm frustrated with God and said some choice things....but I eventually repented usually in 1hr or so after I cooled down....Being angry with God is pointless and only further delays his promises/blessings in your life....

That being said if Alex is just posting this to troll this site....it's not funny, we are here to help, listen, and support people who need it and trolling like that is just wasting time and valuable resources to help those who are truly in need and are posting in other threads...

I hope your intentions are right Alex, if so disregard my statement above about trolling...your post sounded a little standoffish towards God. I've been there, it is hard as hell to hold onto God during continuous difficult times and when it seems like everyone else is getting blessed and you've been pushed to the curb so to speak...I'm still waiting for some things from God but the hardest thing is patience....Stay in the word and pray even if you don't read every day remember to pray it is essential and at least you know God is hearing your words and making your request known to God....Hold onto God!

you always when you do speak have some good balanced and sound things to say God bless you

 

[jasonj]

Well regardless if he was genuine or not I still tried to reach him and even though he hasn't been on in over twelve hours something seemed to spark in him when I messaged him

Blaine you have responded appropriately in this matter, I hope in Christ that you never lose the good and responsive Heart the Lord is working in You, you shine indeed. God bless you

 

[jasonj]

I don't play nice with narcissists like Alex and I won't sit idly by as you attempt to scorn wonderful brothers and sisters of Christ on this site. Perhaps you have a more gentle spirit of understanding than some, and if that's the case may we all rejoice for you, but remember this, other brethren have gifts equal to yours, and sometimes those gifts include sharing tough love when necessary, and that in no way discredits anyone's example of Christ and His Word. Got it?

I do get it , its a poor example of a Christian to refuse to forgive someone who asks 2 times. its not wrong to point out a clear teaching of Jesus Christ to a group who is neglecting to follow it. if you guys feel condemned or convicted about what I said, maybe theres more to that than I'm condemning anyone, maybe I spoke the truth according to Gods word about forgiveness and you feel attacked or condemned? not really sure how Christians refuse to forgive and when its pointed out, they still argue it, when Jesus teachings are pretty clear regarding forgiveness. I haven't condemned anyone, but as you say tough Love. the difference is my "tough Love" is based on the teachings of Christ Jesus who commands forgiveness from His followers who have been forgiven. that being said......I am nothing, less than anyone else, I'm no ones teacher, I have no authority over youm them or anyone else. if someone is agreeing with Jesus teachings, they have a good valid point, doesn't matter their name, how others perceive them...Jesus matters.

God bless you

 

[jasonj]

we should probably all restrain ourselves to that sort of talk.

i'm glad you're not into that Dollar guy or anything -- but you shouldn't be about that $ either. don't even worry about it. none of those things satisfy; they're imitations of real blessings.
i'm not saying God doesn't bless people with material wealth, or that He can't use it, or that it's not in His hand to do so - but real blessings in life are patience, peace in your heart, honor, wisdom, genuine affection.
no amount of 'stuff' or money purchases that. they're found when we stop chasing after material wealth altogether, and run after God.

godliness with contentment is great gain
(1 Timothy 6:6) ​

contentment. that's what you really want. but

whoever loves money never has enough
(Ecclesiastes 5:10)​

those two desires are at odds with each other. this is why you can't serve God and $$$$ -- but learning to be content with little is worth more than any amount of money. praise God if He is teaching you that! i grew up poor, and i thank Him for it; He brought me up caring about and respecting the right things, about wisdom and real treasure, not about 'stuff' or 'vanity' -- thank God for adversity!! through it He builds up our hearts and minds.

very wise and insightful words, God bless you

 

[jasonj]

(I'm wondering if Chanch and jason have met many nonbelievers. I can't help but think, in my family, if happiness/blessedness is riches, than the nonbelievers have been blessed beyond even Funriders/Alexander's wildest dreams. They have great jobs they love, wonderful families, houses big enough for 2-15 families to comfortably live in, and even the dogs and pool. God HAS blessed them, and yet they don't want to know him.)

because you used my name and inferred an untruth about my beliefs regarding blessed being money or riches, I will simply refer you to my very first comment in this thread. its not proper to label someones beliefs about such things when it is made clear to begin with what they actually do believe and have stated it clearly from the start. God bless you

 

[Blain]

Blaine you have responded appropriately in this matter, I hope in Christ that you never lose the good and responsive Heart the Lord is working in You, you shine indeed. God bless you

I didn't really do anything special and if anyone is going to shine it isn't going to be. It's not my light that people need to see.

 

[jasonj]

I didn't really do anything special and if anyone is going to shine it isn't going to be. It's not my light that people need to see.

actually when you are displaying the light of Christ, you are the light of the world. but ill refrain from any further commendation towards you understanding How you feel, God bless you

 

[Utah]

Not anywhere in the bible does God ask us to defend him.. He does command us to love our neighbour as ourself xx

What is it about tough love that resonates no love with you? Jesus Commands us to make Disciples of all nations not to be doormats to mockers. Read Psalm 1 and see what God has in store for Mockers.

 

[Utah]

Every person has his gift of exhortation. You do your loving, don't stop people from teaching him.

Very profound and beautifully said, dear Sister.

 

[Utah]

I do get it , its a poor example of a Christian to refuse to forgive someone who asks 2 times. its not wrong to point out a clear teaching of Jesus Christ to a group who is neglecting to follow it. if you guys feel condemned or convicted about what I said, maybe theres more to that than I'm condemning anyone, maybe I spoke the truth according to Gods word about forgiveness and you feel attacked or condemned? not really sure how Christians refuse to forgive and when its pointed out, they still argue it, when Jesus teachings are pretty clear regarding forgiveness. I haven't condemned anyone, but as you say tough Love. the difference is my "tough Love" is based on the teachings of Christ Jesus who commands forgiveness from His followers who have been forgiven. that being said......I am nothing, less than anyone else, I'm no ones teacher, I have no authority over youm them or anyone else. if someone is agreeing with Jesus teachings, they have a good valid point, doesn't matter their name, how others perceive them...Jesus matters.

God bless you

I didn't get past your second sentence. You think his OP is an apology? Seriously?

Its like a murderer saying, "Yeah, I did it. And?"

 

[Utah]

This is most definitely not gonna teach him a thing x

I beg to differ. One day, God willing he lives long enough, he may look back and read this thread and see the absurdity of his present state of heart, mind and soul.

 

[Blain]

actually when you are displaying the light of Christ, you are the light of the world. but ill refrain from any further commendation towards you understanding How you feel, God bless you

wow.. i never thought of it that way lol. I don't want to seem as if I don't appreciate your compliment it actually is encouraging and helps me to know my heart heart is on the right path if people see him in me like and they express that. It's just i am not used to compliments like that and I also fear of letting it go to my head and so while I think it is appropriate I kind of deflect it and aim at him but at the same time I feel as if he wants me to embrace it even if a little because in both mine and his eyes this is a team effort he and I do everything together I never take one step unless he does first.

 

[sealabeag]

Just skimming through this thread and I'm feeling two things about this; First, if this guy IS being totally insincere and sarcastic like many here seem to think, then why engage him at all and lower yourself to his level? Just ignore him, don't comment in his thread, and forget about it, whilst continuing to pray for him. On the other hand, if this post contains any truth at all, then it's really a cry for help of sorts, even if it is offensive to some, in which case the OP needs prayer and support, not ridicule and insults. Either way, being a little more Christian would help everyone, in general.

 

[jasonj]

I didn't get past your second sentence. You think his OP is an apology? Seriously?

Its like a murderer saying, "Yeah, I did it. And?"

well in response I didn't get past your first sentence, because I understand that the first apology, was pretty offensive to Christians. if I were you I would first read His posts in the thread, IF you find the need to say what you said about me attacking or condemning anyone. maybe you should get past a sentence or two and actually see whats being said that way you can be fully informed and have a good basis for your response. just a thought though, you are your own man

 

[jasonj]

Just skimming through this thread and I'm feeling two things about this; First, if this guy IS being totally insincere and sarcastic like many here seem to think, then why engage him at all and lower yourself to his level? Just ignore him, don't comment in his thread, and forget about it, whilst continuing to pray for him. On the other hand, if this post contains any truth at all, then it's really a cry for help of sorts, even if it is offensive to some, in which case the OP needs prayer and support, not ridicule and insults. Either way, being a little more Christian would help everyone, in general.

very wise and Christ like input, God bless you

 

[jasonj]

wow.. i never thought of it that way lol. I don't want to seem as if I don't appreciate your compliment it actually is encouraging and helps me to know my heart heart is on the right path if people see him in me like and they express that. It's just i am not used to compliments like that and I also fear of letting it go to my head and so while I think it is appropriate I kind of deflect it and aim at him but at the same time I feel as if he wants me to embrace it even if a little because in both mine and his eyes this is a team effort he and I do everything together I never take one step unless he does first.

lol I understood originally that it comes from a heart of humility in you, I didn't mean any offense or anything, just wanted to respect the humble heart you possess. there was no error in your words, you directed glory to God, and humility and I just wanted to respect that. I appreciate the traits you always seem to reflect in your words, just wanted to let you know that Christ shines in you and is visable. you are the light of the world matthew 5:14-16, God bless and "your gentleness is evident to all brother"

 

[Utah]

Just skimming through this thread and I'm feeling two things about this; First, if this guy IS being totally insincere and sarcastic like many here seem to think, then why engage him at all and lower yourself to his level? Just ignore him, don't comment in his thread, and forget about it, whilst continuing to pray for him. On the other hand, if this post contains any truth at all, then it's really a cry for help of sorts, even if it is offensive to some, in which case the OP needs prayer and support, not ridicule and insults. Either way, being a little more Christian would help everyone, in general.

Many people surf this site who are young, vulnerable Christians while other people are uncertain of Jesus' majesty. Allowing insincerity to go unchecked can indeed be poisonous to such people.