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All the men in my family are cousins - non Christians who don't believe in God.
Was brought up in foster care by my aunt. Grandparents died long time ago but
hardly role models even when alive.
Now looking after my elderly aunt who can't look after herself. So I call the shots
make all the decisions and have done for years. Look after the house, my aunt,
do the gardening, work part time, sort all the finances, tell my cousins when their
mum is not well as they wont take any responsibility for looking after their own
elderly mother or give any practical or financial support. In fact they borrow money
from us.
Sorry to any men listening in
but honestly have to say that women are just as capable of doing all the above and more, I even do the decorating, sort out the
repairs around the house, fixed a leaky radiator last year. Sorted out some damp
coming in a bedroom, unblocked the shower drain etc. All without the advice of a man
or the covering or accountability of a man. Oh and prayed over and anointed my
aunt when she was in hospital and not expected to live. Praise God he brought her
through - uh oh maybe that was stepping outside my role as a female, should have
brought in a pastor to do that. Slaps head lol.
I know women are regarded as the weaker sex, but when it comes to a caring role,
looking after others, multi tasking, dealing with illness, dealing with difficulties in
life. My own personal experiences are that women are mentally and emotionally
stronger. I have seen this also in my female married friends.
In an ideal situation a husband and wife will compliment each other and balance each
other with Christ at the head of the table. But it seldom seems to work that way.
Incidentally depleted you are doing an amazing job holding everything together,
you are far more stronger and resourceful than you think.
No marriage, then you're the President. BUT good Presidents need advisors sometimes. Advisors keep us grounded and bounce off ideas that we'd never come up with. After I was no longer under Dad's roof, he was my advisor. Granted, back then I was young and naive, so I went to him for the usual stuff. "How do I know how much apartment I can afford?" "This is what's happening at work. Should I do X or should I do why?" (He usually went with B or K. lol) "Is this a good deal?" "What do you think of the guy I'm dating?" (He was useless there. He actually thought if he disapproved, I'd stick with the guy out of spite. Nope. Would of dumped the guy much quicker than I did. Unfortunately, I didn't know he was withholding information until after he gave his blessing to THE guy I married. Then he told me how relieved he was I wasn't marrying other guy. Men! And they think we're not logical. lol)
Later on, after we were married a while, hubby had to change careers, and to do that, he had classes every night after work for three hours a night. On weekends, he spent the time studying for the test, so he was there, but not accessible. We arranged that if I had any of these "I need advice" kinds of situations to have me talk to our pastor. We had four. (Start up church, so we couldn't afford a full time pastor. Instead we paid these men to come once a month to teach, and they liked our church so came to vounteer other time for things like Bible Studies or building repairs, or visiting folks, or general stuff that needed doing.) So hubby and I picked which one could help me with a particular problem and I'd set up the meeting and get his input. Strictly as needed, and only needed twice in those 13 months.
That's the kind of guy you need. Not every day stuff. More stuff to make sure you're not seeing the problem backward, and, for that matter, if it is a problem. (Mountains out of mole hills.) I also recommend someone like that for business transaction where the seller might be the kind of guy to try and gt over on you because your a woman. That game gets put away when a man joined in. And also a goo place to go if you feel overwhelmed. Yo certainly don't need a guy to talk out radiators trpsitinh radiator. When you have a problem and you need a guy for advice. That's when to find someone you trust. If your pastor knows you, he's your guy.
It seems like you're responding to someone else's post and quoted mine by accident.
I was saying that women's appearance has power because women have power, even if they underestimate it sometimes. So men can't change the way they perceive women -by themselves-, both men and women have to work together to achieve that. Blaming women or blaming men doesn't change it.
But for what you said, God reserves the right to make exceptions. God raised up women leaders even in the OT. God can do it again and we are to submit to whatever God does. That does not mean God is 'throwing out' the role God designed in men or agreeing with the world's dissonance toward it.
I was saying that women's appearance has power because women have power, even if they underestimate it sometimes. So men can't change the way they perceive women -by themselves-, both men and women have to work together to achieve that. Blaming women or blaming men doesn't change it.
But for what you said, God reserves the right to make exceptions. God raised up women leaders even in the OT. God can do it again and we are to submit to whatever God does. That does not mean God is 'throwing out' the role God designed in men or agreeing with the world's dissonance toward it.
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Hi i know what you are saying, unfortunately it doesn't work in them these hills.Lol
I don't think the whole accountability / covering of women etc works in UK society
or would work. If a single woman was to approach a married man then it would
be hand bags at dawn with the wife.
If a single woman approached a single man with that intent he would probably run a
mile and/or the gossips would start in the church!
There are various women's ministries in the church, some more successful than the
men's.
I'm not sure if it's a cultural thing but the whole thing of women being
covered by a man in the UK, is non existent and I think as people get older
especially, both men and women are expected to just get on with it - that stiff
upper lip thingy.
Dont worry though I have Jesus.
M
Tell you what Phil me lad.
I know your hearts in the right place I will make a deal with you.
Love me as Christ loved the church, sacrificially, putting aside all self interest,
providing everything both physically mentally emotionally, plus throw in some healing,
remember not to boast about anything, be long suffering, keep no record of wrong (wont
that be a tough one. Lol). Never say a harsh word because you never become impatient
even when I go astray and muck things up, etc etc. I will live in your house wearing a
burka and remain bare footed - or should I wear shoes, maybe seeing toes would be a
bit provocative! Lol
In all honestly, both men and women have to walk out their faith and learn while on the
journey, it does not come overnight to any of us and come on
admit it youhave not reached perfection yet. We all have things we contend with in life, sins and
attitudes that we find hard to ovecome, all different things. For you maybe it is
lust of the flesh I dunno? For some it might be trying to overcome a life of been told
they are worthless and what to wear by abusive spouses.
Hence the reason this thread has caused such a lot of contention, while being a hoot.
Are any of us in a position to judge another person by what they wear, or understand
the problems another faces by seeing certain things. Not really.
Maybe we just need to all pray for understanding, wisdom and a heart which will
overcome and remain on the journey.
