In heaven there is no marriage

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Blain

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I beg to differ

Revelation 19:6-9
The Marriage Supper of the Lamb

6 Then I heard what seemed to be the voice of a great multitude, like the roar of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder, crying out,

“Hallelujah!
For the Lord our God
the Almighty reigns.
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Let us rejoice and exult
and give him the glory,
for the marriage of the Lamb has come,
and his Bride has made herself ready;
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it was granted her to clothe herself
with fine linen, bright and pure”—

for the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints.

9 And the angel said[a] to me, “Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.” And he said to me, “These are the true words of God.

But as for there being male or female I wouldn't know as I have never been to heaven before
 
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Tintin

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Does that mean there are no males or females? Or we would all be males? Or what? Thoughts?
There will be one eternal marriage on the New Heavens and New Earth. The marriage of the Groom to His Bride. And yes, we'll still be males and females but all united in Christ Jesus our Lord. :)
 
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I meant Matthew 22:30 lol I was posting on the road and forgot the verse I was wondering about.

"After the resurrection, people will neither marry or are given to marriage..."

So I was wondering... Originally there was Adam. But Adam was lonely so God made Eve, and told them to be fruitful and multiply.

After the resurrection, will Adam [man] still be lonely? And do they [man and woman] still have to be fruitful and multiply?
 
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Tintin

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I meant Matthew 22:30 lol I was posting on the road and forgot the verse I was wondering about.

"After the resurrection, people will neither marry or are given to marriage..."

So I was wondering... Originally there was Adam. But Adam was lonely so God made Eve, and told them to be fruitful and multiply.

After the resurrection, will Adam [man] still be lonely? And do they [man and woman] still have to be fruitful and multiply?
First of all, Adam wasn't lonely. He was without a companion, but He walked with his Creator God. That it 'was not good' for Adam to be by himself doesn't mean that he was lonely. For him to be lonely, sin must exist. It's a consequence of sin. And sin hadn't yet entered the world. 'Was not good' in this context just means that God's final intention for man hadn't yet found its completion until He had created a companion for Adam. Besides, being alone is different to being lonely. So, loneliness won't exist on the New Heavens and New Earth and humanity will no longer need to be fruitful and need to multiply. Except in their joy in the LORD!

Do we still need to be fruitful and multiply in this world? I wouldn't say it's any longer a command, more strongly encouraged. Humanity has done a pretty good job of being fruitful and multiplying. I mean, we even had that huge population bottleneck around the time of the Flood, where only 8 humans survived and 6 of those reproduced. After all, all of humanity are descendants of Noah's three sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth and their wives (six peeps!)
 
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RickyZ

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Originally there was just Adam... then part of Adam's body was taken to form Eve. In the physical union the two bodies become one... could it be that after the resurrection, there is actually no male/female ... the two are united again in Christ?

Not preaching it, just pondering...
 
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Originally there was just Adam... then part of Adam's body was taken to form Eve. In the physical union the two bodies become one... could it be that after the resurrection, there is actually no male/female ... the two are united again in Christ?

Not preaching it, just pondering...
This! This is exactly what I was wondering about. I may not have worded it right.
 

RickyZ

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I don't know... haven't found scripture that specifically says so or not. But it's an interesting thought.
 
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BeyondET

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That's species separation we leave the flesh in spirit into the spiritual children of God.
 
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Well there will be no need for marriage, we'll all be together and with Jesus and our Father forever, our real Father the one that loves us and hears our cries and secret miseries, and love him and each other. And the tears will be wiped away forever.

I think we'll still be somewhat male and female, we'll have our characters, I'll be me and you all will be you all, but like we're not gonna be human in the sense of like what we are now. Something else, something magnificent for God for all of eternity as part of his Bride which he deserves, the New Jerusalem and of course he is the loving Father that so deserves to have his many children with him perfectly in joy and happiness with him forever and ever.



Originally there was just Adam... then part of Adam's body was taken to form Eve. In the physical union the two bodies become one... could it be that after the resurrection, there is actually no male/female ... the two are united again in Christ?

Not preaching it, just pondering...
Your ponderances are good Ricky, you are correct.
 
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For most the scriptures there's obviously the echoes of it all throughout the Bible, but Paul explains it a lot in his letters.

Lol though little warning they're not quite popular though, not trying to make it a BDF topic but this is how they start lol, but since ya'll wondering on if there's scriptures.

1 Corinthians 7

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.[SUP]
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[/SUP]Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

[SUP]3 [/SUP]Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress, I say, that it is good for a man so to be.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none;
[SUP]30 [/SUP]And they that weep, as though they wept not; and they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not; and they that buy, as though they possessed not;
[SUP]31 [/SUP]And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.
[SUP]32 [/SUP]But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
[SUP]33 [/SUP]But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
[SUP]35 [/SUP]And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.
[SUP]36 [/SUP]But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry.
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.



Galatians 3:28-29 (bingo for ya Ricky :) )


[SUP]28 [/SUP]There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

1 Corinthians 15:48-58


[SUP]48 [/SUP]As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
[SUP]49 [/SUP]And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
[SUP]50 [/SUP]Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
[SUP]51 [/SUP]Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
[SUP]52 [/SUP]In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
[SUP]53 [/SUP]For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
[SUP]54 [/SUP]So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
[SUP]55 [/SUP]O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
[SUP]56 [/SUP]The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
[SUP]57 [/SUP]But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]58 [/SUP]Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
 

RickyZ

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One reservation I have on the idea is that the Christ came to restore what was lost in the fall... and the separation of man from woman happened prior to that.
 

sharkwhales

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After the resurrection, will Adam [man] still be lonely? And do they [man and woman] still have to be fruitful and multiply?
I'm not sure there will be a need to be fruitful and multiply in the original sense, since there could potentially be billions resurrected.

This is an interestingly controversial topic. Kudos for poking at it. I believe the genders were constructed to teach us about intimacy, communion, partnership, which we will have with the trinity. But, I do not know if everyhting we associate with gender will be 'dissolved' as I hear of angels having a masculine or feminine 'aspect'. so who knows

Originally there was just Adam... then part of Adam's body was taken to form Eve. In the physical union the two bodies become one... could it be that after the resurrection, there is actually no male/female ... the two are united again in Christ?
I believe this is true in one form or another. It's been said that Genesis 1:27 is saying 'man' was not one or the other at the start.

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

(this is before the story of how eve was created)
 

HeraldtheNews

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Does that mean there are no males or females? Or we would all be males? Or what? Thoughts?
Why on earth would you think we would all be males? That likely comes from the patriarchal society that you may have been raised in. Male-centered interpretations of the Bible and in fact in many major religions are a distortion of the reality of Heaven and earth. Check out the website of Kathryn J. Ross, a lady theologian. Christians have pointed out in this forum that, while men are traditionally the honorary leader of the family, it is not a license for the domination of women, and never to abuse or control women or children or other men for that matter, or for women to dominate and control men.

One Christian man said in the forum that in his house, he has the final say on decisions with his wife's agreement, but he woujld never make a major decison without consulting his wife. This works for the marriage he is in. I'm assuming that if his wife really did not like his decision she would let him know. (which never happens of course-- since men always make the right decisions...heh... : / )

I think in most christian marriages decisions are usually made together between a husnand and wife, peacefully. Ok, let's get back to reality-- Other people have point4ed out that men and women have God-ordained and unique roles in marriage simply due to being created in the "likeness and image of God." So, if we are created in the likeness and image of God, then we will always be male and female as we were created. I've heard pastors and wise christians say that the Holy Spirit reminds them of a female presence of God, whereas Jesus is of course, a male/brother/king figure. btw, husband and wife should seek God's approval equally on decisions and the marriage. But, that isn't the end of creation. God revealed his presence in the beginning as a Father figure through father Abaraham, Moses and other male leaders. This was because the Lord knew that civilization was still hostile and warlike (we aren't like that any more of course), and women are more civilized and peaceful for the most part, at least stereotypically (according to usual definitions). But, God was revealed as both a father and mother figure. Why else would there be both a father and mother to lead a family. But, we are all unique in how we are raised and the cultures we are raised in and circumstances which shapes how people relate, especially men and women to one another. Some women wouldn't be comfortable in a leadership position, and neither woujld some men. But, women should never stand by quietly and allow men to abuse them or their children. This is a grievous situation. The Bible calls all christians, men and women, to be courageous. It doesn't make a diference a persons stature (large or petite) since the power of God is enough to confront all evil since the fallen demons (fallen angels that rebel against God) are deluded, irrational, blinded, delusional, lying, ranting cowards, like the nutcases that follow them, and it is relatively easy to stand up to them with the help of the power of God. I've heard stories, and seen it depicted in movies, where someone, either a man or woman, stands up to a ranting, angry violent person, and calls upon the name of Jesus-- and the person walks away dazed and confused. We must believe in God's power first, before it happens, usually since God rewards people who believe in the power of God without seeing or hearing or even feeling the presence of divine power. If we feel weak, it is then that God's power is great, just like being crucified with the LORd once we learn to call upon God for help. This is the life of faith.

So, women for the most part, are closer to the heart of God. The Lord came to save our hearts first, not our minds.

God did not send Mary to face Roman execution-- He sent Jesus, the humble, quiet loving warrior. King David was a warrior out of necessity, but just look at the Psalms he wrote that cry out to the heart of God. God is love, not just words. Just look at how many words it took for a lonely guy to make that point?
James said, "faith without works is dead."
Theology with out love is also dead.
So is truth without love as Paul said.
John said All people who love know God in their hearts.
Peter said, referring to his wife, "a woman, without a word, can win over the heart of her husband." (paraphrase)

The Lord said from the mountain of Jesus, "this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased. HEAR HIM.
Mary said, who was in charge of the catering for the community wedding, to the servants-- "see that you carry out whatever he asks you to do." (Just as she did--"behold the handmaiden of the Lord")
That's all we have to do--
check YES, or NO.

The whole Bible and all creation centers around the marriage between a man and woman, just like at the town of Cana which was located near to the Valley of Meggido--the final battle on earth.
 

sharkwhales

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I've heard pastors and wise christians say that the Holy Spirit reminds them of a female presence of God, whereas Jesus is of course, a male/brother/king figure.
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This was because the Lord knew that civilization was still hostile and warlike (we aren't like that any more of course), and women are more civilized and peaceful for the most part, at least stereotypically (according to usual definitions).
(....)
So, women for the most part, are closer to the heart of God. The Lord came to save our hearts first, not our minds
presumptuous.
 
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1st John 3:2
King James Version(KJV)

2.)Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
 

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Males and females - definitely relationships. Building of houses and planting of gardens. Children. Pets. Insects too.
 
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coby

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Originally there was just Adam... then part of Adam's body was taken to form Eve. In the physical union the two bodies become one... could it be that after the resurrection, there is actually no male/female ... the two are united again in Christ?

Not preaching it, just pondering...
No, Jesus was the First with a resurrected Body and He was still a Man.
 
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Tintin

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Males and females - definitely relationships. Building of houses and planting of gardens. Children. Pets. Insects too.
Tourist, what are you saying exactly? Here or on the New Heavens and New Earth. Because there will be no marriages in eternity, besides Christ and His Bride (us).