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I didn't realize you wore a yarmulke..........
Deuteronomy 4:1 "Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them..........."
Ezekiel 20:5,11,12 "......Thus saith the Lord God; In the day when I chose Israel.......And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them.[SUP]................[/SUP]Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them............."
Deuteronomy 4:1 "Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them..........."
Ezekiel 20:5,11,12 "......Thus saith the Lord God; In the day when I chose Israel.......And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them.[SUP]................[/SUP]Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them............."
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Hmmm... let's see. I had a biological father, 2 foster fathers, a few grandfathers (blood related & in foster care), 5 biological brothers, countless foster brothers, several uncles & male cousins, many male school chums & teachers, had a husband, raised 2 sons, have 4 grandsons, have a son-in-law, have many spiritual sons & brothers, male friends, male bosses & colleagues, male business marketing clients, male neighbors, have dated a few guys.... etc., etc.
I can think of about a zillion emotional expressions on men's faces during my 59 years on this earth.
I can think of about a zillion emotional expressions on men's faces during my 59 years on this earth.
To simmer and reduce this down even further (this fear), they wanted Moses to talk to them because if they approached the mountain they would die. Because no man can see God and continue to live.
So they are afraid of their death. And if they can finagle a way to not have to die, while also seizing the promise, that's what they'll kick and flail around trying to achieve.
But this is common to all men. Who would run willy nilly to their death on a cross unless they had become convinced it was what would give them life? It would actually be stupid to give up your life before you became convinced it was the only way. It's stupid to begin building without counting the cost and agreeing it is worth it. And it's stupid to tear a building down until you have assessed that there is no worth in keeping it and rehabbing it. It is prudent to try to keep the building, if possible, to cut down on the cost.
So they are afraid of their death. And if they can finagle a way to not have to die, while also seizing the promise, that's what they'll kick and flail around trying to achieve.
But this is common to all men. Who would run willy nilly to their death on a cross unless they had become convinced it was what would give them life? It would actually be stupid to give up your life before you became convinced it was the only way. It's stupid to begin building without counting the cost and agreeing it is worth it. And it's stupid to tear a building down until you have assessed that there is no worth in keeping it and rehabbing it. It is prudent to try to keep the building, if possible, to cut down on the cost.
ah so me being a youth leader is a big no-no, then? and me teaching the middle school class for sunday school is another big no-no?
p.s. i'm glad the assembly i attend acknowledges women teachers, leaders, and preachers.
p.s. i'm glad the assembly i attend acknowledges women teachers, leaders, and preachers.
But don't you think we should just continue on in all our old ways? I mean, it's worked so well...just look at all of the churches and denominations! Best to have such a variety to choose from, don't you think...?
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And I think that goes back to Paul when we see Paul say things like ," I don't allow...." Because Paul must obey God and not men.
New American Standard Bible
But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet.
New American Standard Bible
The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says.
And again, this is in the Local assembly only. they are not to have charge over the local assembly. Paul is not saying that they can't talk or can't minister in other areas.
The world tries to make this simple command into something it is not.
The Word is suppose to conform society.
We have society trying to conform the Word.
New American Standard Bible
But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet.
New American Standard Bible
The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says.
And again, this is in the Local assembly only. they are not to have charge over the local assembly. Paul is not saying that they can't talk or can't minister in other areas.
The world tries to make this simple command into something it is not.
The Word is suppose to conform society.
We have society trying to conform the Word.
I give up. You two or three guys just continue to just rant and ramble.
You don't back up your words with evidence.
I tried to prompt you to do this in a mature academic fashion.
So then milk it is for you. On the tether.
There is no sense in going any further with this with you all.
Continue as you are; you may not die in your sin, but you will in your obstinacy.
Doesn't the proverbs say something about throwing pearls before swine?
And a fool continues to answers the nescient?
You don't back up your words with evidence.
I tried to prompt you to do this in a mature academic fashion.
So then milk it is for you. On the tether.
There is no sense in going any further with this with you all.
Continue as you are; you may not die in your sin, but you will in your obstinacy.
Doesn't the proverbs say something about throwing pearls before swine?
And a fool continues to answers the nescient?
Welcome to the reigning theme/methodology of the CC Bible Discussion Forum.
(It's best taken in very small doses, and at a very long distance for one's own personal safety, or you might get caught in the crossfire when all the rocks are thrown.)
(It's best taken in very small doses, and at a very long distance for one's own personal safety, or you might get caught in the crossfire when all the rocks are thrown.)
I said my morning prayers, read the word. Now I have to distance myself a little from the insanity of the none answer answers.
I am going to the gym work out...