YOUR SINS ARE NOT BEING RECORDED

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“For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” [/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3, align: left"]I once read a comic book which showed how a man lusted after a woman, then died of a heart attack and went to heaven. In heaven, he saw a big screen showing everyone present a recording of all the sins which he had committed while on earth, including the last one. How embarrassing!
Don’t worry, that is not going to happen to you in heaven.

There is no big screen with front-row and circle seats for everyone to sit and watch your past sins. There is no video recorder in heaven recording your sins right now. Because your lifetime of sins has already been punished in the body of Jesus, God declares to you, “Your sins and lawless deeds, I will by no means ever remember!”

This is true even for the Old Testament heroes of faith such as Abraham, Moses and David. If you read Hebrews 11, which was written after the cross of Jesus, you will notice that there is no record of their sins or failures. Yet, their life stories tell us that they were far from perfect.
Abraham lied twice about his wife Sarah.

He told Pharaoh, and later, King Abimelech, that she was his sister to protect his own life. Moses killed an Egyptian who was beating a Hebrew, and hid the body in the sand. David committed adultery with Bathsheba and later arranged for her husband to be killed in battle. Yet, their sins were not recorded in Hebrews 11, only their deeds done in faith!

God is showing you that He does not record your sins or failures today. Instead, He records your faith confessions and deeds done in response to what His Son has done for you. Every time you sin, every time you waver in your faith, God does not record it. But every time you believe Him and respond in faith, He records it! That should not make you want to sin more. It should free you to love God more!

So don’t be conscious of your failures. If God Himself does not remember them, who are you to remember them? Be conscious instead of your righteousness in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:21), and you will reign in life! (Romans 5:17)

Grace Inspirations Mar 22/16 Joseph Prince Ministries

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popeye

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The word is loaded with the opposite.

Read James

Read rev,the 7 letters to the 7 churches
 
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FreeNChrist

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God IS Love, and love keeps no record of wrongs. (1 Cor 13:4-6)
 

Budman

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The word is loaded with the opposite.

Read James

Read rev,the 7 letters to the 7 churches

Either God remembers them no more, (Hebrews 8:12, 10:17) or He remembers them.

You can't have it both ways.
 
Nov 22, 2015
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Either God remembers them no more, (Hebrews 8:12, 10:17) or He remembers them.

You can't have it both ways.
Amen...and He does correct our believing to get it in line with His true life that is in us so that we can bear His fruit in our lives...this is not remembering sins..it's revealing who we are in Christ now because of Jesus completed work. We need to have our beliefs corrected which in turn corrects our outward behavior which brings glory to God.

Some of the people in Rev regarding the 7 churches is to unbelievers in the church and some to the believers in the church. There has and always will be both in our mist. The tares grow up with the wheat the Lord says. He wants to turn the tares into true wheat.
 
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skylove7

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If they was I wish they was on Beta lol
But unfortunately I have sinned since 1987 lol
 
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popeye

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If you repent.

You guys are expressing half a truth.

"Unless you repent,I will remove your lampstand"

Oh well,Jesus was just kidding right?

He would neeeeverrr put conditions on us as we do our own children.


"...and the prayer of faith will heal the sick,AND IF HE HAS COMMITTED SINS THEY SHALL BE FORGIVEN"

TO give others the impression we are NOT held accountable for unconfessed,un repentant sins means you teach others that James and Jesus were either jokers or delusional.
 
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popeye

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Amen...and He does correct our believing to get it in line with His true life that is in us so that we can bear His fruit in our lives...this is not remembering sins..it's revealing who we are in Christ now because of Jesus completed work. We need to have our beliefs corrected which in turn corrects our outward behavior which brings glory to God.

Some of the people in Rev regarding the 7 churches is to unbelievers in the church and some to the believers in the church. There has and always will be both in our mist. The tares grow up with the wheat the Lord says. He wants to turn the tares into true wheat.
In order for this thinking to become truth we would need sinners/heathen to have lamps in the first place.

....and the prodigal to have a STARTING PLACE OUTSIDE Gods family.

Both are expressed as family/saved
 
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If you repent.

You guys are expressing half a truth.

"Unless you repent,I will remove your lampstand"

Oh well,Jesus was just kidding right?

He would neeeeverrr put conditions on us as we do our own children.


"...and the prayer of faith will heal the sick,AND IF HE HAS COMMITTED SINS THEY SHALL BE FORGIVEN"

TO give others the impression we are NOT held accountable for unconfessed,un repentant sins means you teach others that James and Jesus were either jokers or delusional.
It's always good to put things in the context they are given......if we continue to live without truth in our lives...we will not be stable and many people die before their time from such living.....removing ( this means to shake or move ) the lampstand does not mean the person( who ever is being talked to in this verse ) is not going to heaven. The lampstand is the church and some say that the "angel' is the leaders in them.

Now for James...he was talking about confessing sins to each other so that we could be healed..if you think your sins are not forgiven it stops the person from receiving healing..

James 5:14-16 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Is anyone among you sick? Then he must call for the elders of the church and they are to pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord;
[SUP]15 [/SUP] and the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up, and if he has committed sins, they will be forgiven him.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.

Healing and forgiveness go hand in hand as Jesus demonstrated....we have authority on earth to tell people their sins are forgiven..

Matthew 9:2-6 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] And they brought to Him a paralytic lying on a bed. Seeing their faith, Jesus said to the paralytic, "Take courage, son; your sins are forgiven."
[SUP]3 [/SUP] And some of the scribes said to themselves, "This fellow blasphemes."
[SUP]4 [/SUP] And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, "Why are you thinking evil in your hearts?
[SUP]5 [/SUP] "Which is easier, to say, 'Your sins are forgiven,' or to say, 'Get up, and walk'?
[SUP]6 [/SUP] "But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins"—then He *said to the paralytic, "Get up, pick up your bed and go home."

It's interesting that this term Jesus used "sins are forgiven you "..is in the perfect passive which means it was already a done deal in the perfect tense....and passive means - something that is done to you - you are not doing it..

God doesn't remember or sins but He does deal with us in our life to stop things from destroying us.. He is faithful to us.
 
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In order for this thinking to become truth we would need sinners/heathen to have lamps in the first place.

....and the prodigal to have a STARTING PLACE OUTSIDE Gods family.

Both are expressed as family/saved


The lampstand is the church itself ( which has tares and wheat in them as Jesus talked about in Matthew 13 ) in the city that the letter was addressed to..

Revelation 1:20 (NASB)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] "As for the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.
 
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FreeNChrist

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If you repent.

You guys are expressing half a truth.

"Unless you repent,I will remove your lampstand"

Oh well,Jesus was just kidding right?

He would neeeeverrr put conditions on us as we do our own children.


"...and the prayer of faith will heal the sick,AND IF HE HAS COMMITTED SINS THEY SHALL BE FORGIVEN"

TO give others the impression we are NOT held accountable for unconfessed,un repentant sins means you teach others that James and Jesus were either jokers or delusional.
Held accountable? Was not Jesus "held accountable" for our sins?

No, it is the belief that Jesus sacrifice was a failure that makes a mockery of Him and the gospel that saves.
 

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God only sees the blood of Jesus covering our sins. Which cleanses us from all unrighteousness.

I will die in Christ...covered by his blood....and his righteousness.
 
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popeye

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I agree with every single grace verse you can ever come up with.

But it is WHERE YOU GUYS TAKE A CONCEPT, that I get off that train.

"suffer shipwreck"

What verses do you come up with on that one?

The prodigal being saved is what?

What do you do with that one?

Oh,I am sure you will come up with something.

You start these threads for members like myself to come in
With our "graceless heresy" of "saved by works" when in reality God deals with his children with accountability.

If you do this,I will do that
If you sin.....
If you do not repent...
Admonish him as a brother ,but do not eat with such a one

You simply cannot teach sloppy carnal Christianity to mature saints.( no such a thing as accountability)

....unless the victorious church is a undisciplined adult daycare of carnal "it's OK man,Jesus got you covered"

About a week ago an acquaintance on mine said to another man"I am going to my girlfriends house and sin "

He told him "it's. Ok, Jesus will forgive you"

No joke.

Now see the loosey,goosey fruit of no accountability?
 
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FreeNChrist

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I agree with every single grace verse you can ever come up with.

But it is WHERE YOU GUYS TAKE A CONCEPT, that I get off that train.

"suffer shipwreck"

What verses do you come up with on that one?

The prodigal being saved is what?

What do you do with that one?

Oh,I am sure you will come up with something.

You start these threads for members like myself to come in
With our "graceless heresy" of "saved by works" when in reality God deals with his children with accountability.

If you do this,I will do that
If you sin.....
If you do not repent...
Admonish him as a brother ,but do not eat with such a one

You simply cannot teach sloppy carnal Christianity to mature saints.( no such a thing as accountability)

....unless the victorious church is a undisciplined adult daycare of carnal "it's OK man,Jesus got you covered"

About a week ago an acquaintance on mine said to another man"I am going to my girlfriends house and sin "

He told him "it's. Ok, Jesus will forgive you"

No joke.

Now see the loosey,goosey fruit of no accountability?
It seems both your acquaintance and the other man think grace is a license to sin. Which means they've never understood grace. Did you correct them?
 
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I agree with every single grace verse you can ever come up with.

But it is WHERE YOU GUYS TAKE A CONCEPT, that I get off that train.

"suffer shipwreck"

What verses do you come up with on that one?

The prodigal being saved is what?

What do you do with that one?

Oh,I am sure you will come up with something.

You start these threads for members like myself to come in
With our "graceless heresy" of "saved by works" when in reality God deals with his children with accountability.

If you do this,I will do that
If you sin.....
If you do not repent...
Admonish him as a brother ,but do not eat with such a one

You simply cannot teach sloppy carnal Christianity to mature saints.( no such a thing as accountability)

....unless the victorious church is a undisciplined adult daycare of carnal "it's OK man,Jesus got you covered"

About a week ago an acquaintance on mine said to another man"I am going to my girlfriends house and sin "

He told him "it's. Ok, Jesus will forgive you"

No joke.

Now see the loosey,goosey fruit of no accountability?


This sort of thinking is messed up. We are no longer under the schoolmaster. We have someone FAR better who teaches us how to walk pleasing to God. We have the Holy Spirit that indwells us and reminds us of our position in Christ., reminds us of the love of God IN Christ. The love of God is what constrains the believer. A new heart we have been given. A new law we have been given., the law of faith and the law of love. These are given to us at the new birth when we become new creations IN Christ.

As an adult, we learn how to be responsible. When we were children., we could not be trusted to turn on the burners on the kitchen stove. We could not be trusted to get in the car and drive it., we did not have the maturity or the ability to do those things. But when we turned a certain age, we were then allowed to live alone in an apartment and use the stove at will. We could get in the car with our drivers license and drive according to rules of the road.

Now we are called to walk in the liberty Christ has given us. Only don't use your liberty as an opportunity to sin. This is all part of the growing process for the believer. We are now seeking to please God because of the love He has shown us. We know we can trust Him better than ourselves. So we walk the way He wants us to walk.

The Holy Spirit will never tell us to leave the gas stove burners going when we leave the house. Or when we get in the car and drive the Holy Spirit will not instruct us to drive 80 in a 40 mph zone. If we say He has, we are NOT following the Holy Spirit but some other spirit.

Being led by the Holy Spirit will NOT lead to sin. Your friend is not being led of the Holy Spirit. He is either carnal or not saved.
 
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God only sees the blood of Jesus covering our sins. Which cleanses us from all unrighteousness.

I will die in Christ...covered by his blood....and his righteousness.


Also, we will LIVE in Christ...covered by His blood....and His righteousness
:D
 
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Revelation 20:12 "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."


Seriously. You people that don't know the bible stop trying to act like teachers. There's a scripture for that too, want me to bring it too?
 
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Thought I would repost this post here as it has become applicable to some of the posts here:

"Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord." Rom 5:18-21

This Scripture, and the rest of chapter 5 points us to one Person as the basis of our salvation-Jesus! It is by the obedience and righteousness of ONE that many are justified and made righteous(also Philippians 3:9)

Knowing this Scripture in context(reading the verses before it), Paul asks this question:

"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? Rom 6:1

The answer Paul gives is what grace believers affirm:

"God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?" Rom 6:2


Paul then explains further in chapter 6 why this grace teaches us to live godly lives(also Titus 2:11-12) . Paul must have had the same problem with others accusing him of promoting a license to sin, just as we grace believers today have this accusation against us that never goes away!
 
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Revelation 20:12 "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."


Seriously. You people that don't know the bible stop trying to act like teachers. There's a scripture for that too, want me to bring it too?
The dead...are the ones not in Christ....we Christians have the Bema seat where our works are to be judged...not for sin though....for rewards.....Jesus took our sins away as far as the east is from the west for us believers in Him and washed us clean with His blood....believe it ....we have a great salvation in Him!
 
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FreeNChrist

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And it seems a re-posting of this is in order as well....

"In Romans 6, Paul deals with the natural mind’s tendency to misunderstand the grace of God. “What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may increase?”… The natural mind thinks, “If grace covers my sin, why not continue so that grace can be magnified?” Its definition of grace would be that grace frees me from the penalty of sin, so I can go satisfy myself with no fear of punishment. This is obviously tempting to those of us who experience the painful compulsion to indulge in addictive behaviors. But such an assumption is a total misunderstanding of the grace of God.

The focus of God’s grace is not just on the penalty of my sin, but my bondage to sin on this side of heaven. Grace did not come just to pay my penalty so I could live in the bondage of working sin. It came to set me free from the power of sin in self-consciousness in my own life and even from my bondage to those who have sinned against me… God desires not only to free you from the penalty of sin but to free you from the power of sin. That’s why it is foolish to believe you can be a partaker of grace and continue on nonchalantly in a life of ungodliness."

Dudley Hall, Grace Works


And I'll throw in this one of Jim Richards from, Grace: The Power to Change. "One of the greatest lies of the devil is that sin brings pleasure. For most people, sin is that list of fun, pleasurable things that God doesn’t want them to do. Similarly, the will of God is that list of painful, difficult things that God does want them to do. As long as people view sin as pleasure, they will always be tempted to go back to it. But when we realize that sin, though pleasurable for the moment, always leads to the most excruciating pain imaginable, it will lose as its appeal."