Obedience & righteousness - extreme grace version
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Yes, I phrased what is in the post above in my own words but it is tantamount to the same, they are contained in the words posted above, calling "he" a not yet sealed by the Holy Spirit and not going to believe the gospel.......
I also paraphrase with understanding given by the Holy Spirit because I speak modern English, though becoming dated with my years......
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Its is quite evident you have no understanding of what grace teachers believe.
Your continued attacks against them based on false premise and false accusations are getting to be old and tiring
Can I make a suggestion to you? Go ask a grace believer what he believes, stop listening to men who have led you astray and told you things which are not true about them.
Grace believers are dangerous and force a legalist to admit his sin, Thats why the legalist will make up so many things against a grace believer.
Just like the grace of God wil force them to hide sins, Wash down the law. Or ignore sin altogether, Because it forces them to be the publican, WHo continues to know he is unworthy, and will walk in that mindset, Always thankfull for the grace f God, which gives him the ability to be gratefull for th eone who saved them, and walk in a way worthy of his love.
Your continued attacks against them based on false premise and false accusations are getting to be old and tiring
Can I make a suggestion to you? Go ask a grace believer what he believes, stop listening to men who have led you astray and told you things which are not true about them.
Grace believers are dangerous and force a legalist to admit his sin, Thats why the legalist will make up so many things against a grace believer.
Just like the grace of God wil force them to hide sins, Wash down the law. Or ignore sin altogether, Because it forces them to be the publican, WHo continues to know he is unworthy, and will walk in that mindset, Always thankfull for the grace f God, which gives him the ability to be gratefull for th eone who saved them, and walk in a way worthy of his love.
There is ample text in the Word supporting that one may lose what he thought he had if he goes back to his own vomit.
It is also touched upon in the Epistles, where it is written there is no hope for a man once having tasted...........etc....
Personally, as one who believes Jesus Christ, I do not like to discuss such matters, just as I do not like to elaborate on the one sin that may or may not be forgiven, that being the blaspheming of the Holy Spirit. I will not discuss this for it is a painful subject to contemplate for any soul. Think on all things beautiful whenever it is possible.
It is also touched upon in the Epistles, where it is written there is no hope for a man once having tasted...........etc....
Personally, as one who believes Jesus Christ, I do not like to discuss such matters, just as I do not like to elaborate on the one sin that may or may not be forgiven, that being the blaspheming of the Holy Spirit. I will not discuss this for it is a painful subject to contemplate for any soul. Think on all things beautiful whenever it is possible.
This is like saying, the gospel is going up to a sports team after a muddy match, when they are covered in dirt and saying here is a bath to make yourselves clean, and then saying you are clean, and then expecting them to go home without getting washed.
The statement means nothing unless people are actually cleaned and walk in being clean.
Just because your sins are forgiven, does not mean you will not sin again and be in the same mess again.
Of the 10 lepers healed only one came back to find out more about Jesus.
All christians believe in God's grace in sending Jesus to die for us upon the cross for the forgiveness of sins.
Where we differ is what that means and how we apply it to our lives.
I walk in the way of righteousness, along the paths of justice,
bestowing a rich inheritance on those who love me and making their treasuries full.
Prov 8:19-21
Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
Eph 5:1-2
The statement means nothing unless people are actually cleaned and walk in being clean.
Just because your sins are forgiven, does not mean you will not sin again and be in the same mess again.
Of the 10 lepers healed only one came back to find out more about Jesus.
All christians believe in God's grace in sending Jesus to die for us upon the cross for the forgiveness of sins.
Where we differ is what that means and how we apply it to our lives.
I walk in the way of righteousness, along the paths of justice,
bestowing a rich inheritance on those who love me and making their treasuries full.
Prov 8:19-21
Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
Eph 5:1-2
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Romans 8:15
For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.”
2 Timothy 1:7
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
Why fear? If you have the gospel of grace, God has not given you a spirit of fear. but of a sound mind, If your mind is so unsound your afraid to talk about things, Then I must ask if you have the spirit of god at all.
For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.”
2 Timothy 1:7
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
Why fear? If you have the gospel of grace, God has not given you a spirit of fear. but of a sound mind, If your mind is so unsound your afraid to talk about things, Then I must ask if you have the spirit of god at all.
the work of God is that you believe in the Redeemer that He sent, and the will of God is that not one of those given to Christ will be lost, but by believing, they are saved from death and have eternal life. (re: John 6:29-30)
the will of God in Christ Jesus for us is that we rejoice at all times, giving thanks in everything and always praying. (re: 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18)
who can be always rejoicing and always giving thanks for what they are never sure they have received, and if they have received, are always anxious that they have not done enough to keep? who can say they believe on Christ, but not believe that He is able to keep them, and that He will not lose any of His sheep?
the will of God in Christ Jesus for us is that we rejoice at all times, giving thanks in everything and always praying. (re: 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18)
who can be always rejoicing and always giving thanks for what they are never sure they have received, and if they have received, are always anxious that they have not done enough to keep? who can say they believe on Christ, but not believe that He is able to keep them, and that He will not lose any of His sheep?
The "forgiveness of sins" that is in Jesus death and resurrection is the gospel. Don't fall for humanism that is trying to take you captive through philosophy and the traditions of men ( Col. 2:8 ).
Peter preached the gospel of the grace of Christ to Cornelius ...his exact words were recorded.
Acts 10:43-44 (NASB)
[SUP]43 [/SUP] "Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins."
[SUP]44 [/SUP] While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message.
I love how the Holy Spirit "falls upon " them as soon as they hear about the forgiveness of sins proclaimed to them because of Christ!
Paul preached the gospel of grace here in the only recorded time in scripture.
Acts 13:38-39 (NASB)
[SUP]38 [/SUP] "Therefore let it be known to you, brethren, that through Him forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you,
Make no mistake - the forgiveness of sins through Jesus blood is the gospel of the grace of Christ...all others are false.
This is how we walk out what is true in us if we remember that our sins were purged from us by the Lord.
2 Peter 1:9 (NASB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification from his former sins.
Never forget that our sins are forgiven for His name's sake.
Peter preached the gospel of the grace of Christ to Cornelius ...his exact words were recorded.
Acts 10:43-44 (NASB)
[SUP]43 [/SUP] "Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins."
[SUP]44 [/SUP] While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message.
I love how the Holy Spirit "falls upon " them as soon as they hear about the forgiveness of sins proclaimed to them because of Christ!
Paul preached the gospel of grace here in the only recorded time in scripture.
Acts 13:38-39 (NASB)
[SUP]38 [/SUP] "Therefore let it be known to you, brethren, that through Him forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you,
Make no mistake - the forgiveness of sins through Jesus blood is the gospel of the grace of Christ...all others are false.
This is how we walk out what is true in us if we remember that our sins were purged from us by the Lord.
2 Peter 1:9 (NASB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification from his former sins.
Never forget that our sins are forgiven for His name's sake.
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