Obedience & righteousness - extreme grace version
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well lets see.
You opened this very thread with a bunch of lies against me and those like me.
Angela and myself gave a stern rebuttle of your lies. and all we got was attacked by a few people.
So forgive me if you can be trusted as an honest source, If you can not even admit you make a mistake. how can we trust you in anything.
How come every time I or someone else ask grace 777 to explain he answers us? can you explain that?
This is the perfect example of "twisting" what was said to mean something totally different...and we have done this most likely between all of us here over 200x times...and they still say the complete opposite....that's why we don't want to interact with them.....seeing as there is no formal leadership in CC ..we need to "do something" with them...and the ignore button is perfect...
I wish it was different...but until we see repentance ....to me they will still be on ignore..I'll just post scriptures about the awesomeness of our Lord's salvation to us...freely given by grace through faith alone...
I wish it was different...but until we see repentance ....to me they will still be on ignore..I'll just post scriptures about the awesomeness of our Lord's salvation to us...freely given by grace through faith alone...
I think we need to pause for a bit and let everyone calm down...so lets have some tea and cake.. nice food always helps in calming down. (well it does for me 
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But let your statement be ‘Yes, yes; no, no,’ and anything beyond these is from the evil one. Matthew 5:37
To reveal the malice and lies....here is what was said...
my post # 1322
Just giving people a grace-based view of Revelation 3....some people are interested in teaching on subjects....and people have thanked me for sending them to this site so that they could feed themselves .....so as I said before these posts are not for you but for others .
...and I have told you before that "no" still means "no" that I do not nor have ever received "material" benefit from giving people a grace-based view of scriptures by using this website...lol....this guy with the website has dissected a lot of the scriptures and has grace-based views.
I do however get great benefit from knowing people are being set free from religious views from man-made traditions and that they are being blessed with the grace and absolute love of our Lord Jesus and the Father for them!..that is why I share this great grace of the gospel of Christ.
again in post #1325
You can read my response again as I have highlighted it in blue in my previous post to you.
This is absolutely the last time I am going to answer you on your insinuations. I don't know what kind of malice you are attempting to convey.
I do not know what part of "no" you do not understand. I am not putting up the definition of the complicated word called "no" again.....this should suffice again for the last time....God bless you brother
The Lord bless you!...I am praying for you...I pray you grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus!.....
Then post #1332
So, you don't like the way I said 'no'...that I said other things while answering "no"?.........my goodness....so now you are dictating how to answer you?...and then to say if I don't answer the way you want....it's not godly or in love?....LOL.....I can see that I will have to keep my interaction with you to a minimum you keep your malice level from inflaming....
Here is the link...and eventually I finally had to put him on ignore..
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...-confession-1-john-1-9-sin-confession-67.html
To reveal the malice and lies....here is what was said...
my post # 1322
Just giving people a grace-based view of Revelation 3....some people are interested in teaching on subjects....and people have thanked me for sending them to this site so that they could feed themselves .....so as I said before these posts are not for you but for others .
...and I have told you before that "no" still means "no" that I do not nor have ever received "material" benefit from giving people a grace-based view of scriptures by using this website...lol....this guy with the website has dissected a lot of the scriptures and has grace-based views.
I do however get great benefit from knowing people are being set free from religious views from man-made traditions and that they are being blessed with the grace and absolute love of our Lord Jesus and the Father for them!..that is why I share this great grace of the gospel of Christ.
again in post #1325
You can read my response again as I have highlighted it in blue in my previous post to you.
This is absolutely the last time I am going to answer you on your insinuations. I don't know what kind of malice you are attempting to convey.
I do not know what part of "no" you do not understand. I am not putting up the definition of the complicated word called "no" again.....this should suffice again for the last time....God bless you brother
The Lord bless you!...I am praying for you...I pray you grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus!.....
Then post #1332
So, you don't like the way I said 'no'...that I said other things while answering "no"?.........my goodness....so now you are dictating how to answer you?...and then to say if I don't answer the way you want....it's not godly or in love?....LOL.....I can see that I will have to keep my interaction with you to a minimum you keep your malice level from inflaming....
Here is the link...and eventually I finally had to put him on ignore..
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...-confession-1-john-1-9-sin-confession-67.html
It is pretty easy to see that you enjoy sharing and WANT to give back.
It is good and convicting........because I get stuck in just wanting to be right to often.
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Gr8grace believes God in his infinite wisdom and omniscience, That God knows a person from birth to death before they were even born. And that God gave a person the gift of life based on what God knows. In fact, Scripture says in eph, God predestined is to be his children based on that knowledge and wisdom.
I guess Gr8grace trusts God to not make mistakes. and God will not give someone something who is going to turn around and reject him 10, 20 or even 30 years down the road.
That's faith in an all powerful God
I guess Gr8grace trusts God to not make mistakes. and God will not give someone something who is going to turn around and reject him 10, 20 or even 30 years down the road.
That's faith in an all powerful God
Thank you..I appreciate that...
I am not interacting with them until they repent ( which means answering any questions ).. Both of the main ones here I have tried multiple times to get them to discuss things in a non name-calling way to stop the malice and slander but it was turned down...so we are left with this scenario now...it's all good..The gospel of the grace of our Lord is getting out...of that we all rejoice!...
I am not interacting with them until they repent ( which means answering any questions ).. Both of the main ones here I have tried multiple times to get them to discuss things in a non name-calling way to stop the malice and slander but it was turned down...so we are left with this scenario now...it's all good..The gospel of the grace of our Lord is getting out...of that we all rejoice!...
I make mistakes all the time, but then you never recognise them or even my failure.
I admitted you are not a calvanist but a mixture of the two but your eternal security doctrine is a typical calvanist position.
Now I did admit this mistake, though for me it was just a slight lack of focus, but for you, night and day.
On the subject of grace7x77 answering your questions, you are not exactly disagreeing with him, and the theology he holds is so convoluted you need pages to explain it, and it still does not make sense.
The best analogy I have is the Koran. The Koran does not make sense without the bible, because 50% of the stories are part versions of the bible or apocrapha, but not complete.
Equally hyper grace only makes sense if you put the scripture, put a legalist straw man and then put the hyper grace version.
This is not a real theology, it is a criticism of a position without properly establishing its own position.
Now ofcourse this has to be done, because the most obvious interpretations of Jesus are traditional faith, so it ends up in this mess. So to hide it we get this agression, slander, and reams of propoganda, as if this is sensible.
Now I did not lie about your continual accusations of lying and insults I unfairly give you and others. After being insulted so many times, at so many different levels, I loose track. It is not as if there is a relationship to repair, it never existed.
This is like a fight, where the guilty party want to claim innocense because it detracts from the subject.
What you actually believe EG. I am not sure you actually know, based on the company you keep, but you can prove me wrong. I have never been quiet about my position. Or are you going to say I lied about that as well.
I admitted you are not a calvanist but a mixture of the two but your eternal security doctrine is a typical calvanist position.
Now I did admit this mistake, though for me it was just a slight lack of focus, but for you, night and day.
On the subject of grace7x77 answering your questions, you are not exactly disagreeing with him, and the theology he holds is so convoluted you need pages to explain it, and it still does not make sense.
The best analogy I have is the Koran. The Koran does not make sense without the bible, because 50% of the stories are part versions of the bible or apocrapha, but not complete.
Equally hyper grace only makes sense if you put the scripture, put a legalist straw man and then put the hyper grace version.
This is not a real theology, it is a criticism of a position without properly establishing its own position.
Now ofcourse this has to be done, because the most obvious interpretations of Jesus are traditional faith, so it ends up in this mess. So to hide it we get this agression, slander, and reams of propoganda, as if this is sensible.
Now I did not lie about your continual accusations of lying and insults I unfairly give you and others. After being insulted so many times, at so many different levels, I loose track. It is not as if there is a relationship to repair, it never existed.
This is like a fight, where the guilty party want to claim innocense because it detracts from the subject.
What you actually believe EG. I am not sure you actually know, based on the company you keep, but you can prove me wrong. I have never been quiet about my position. Or are you going to say I lied about that as well.
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