Why the king james?
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The whole basis of what you believe is based on an interpretation of the following verse
Pslam 12:6
The words of the LORD are pure words as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
TO myself and others this simply means that Gods word is perfect, refining silver seven times over gives perfection, that is how perfect Gods word is.
TO yourself you interpret this verse that the King James Bible is Gods perfect version, and you manipulate the English translations to fit this.
Fortunately, most people see how ridiculously flawed this interpretation is and will have nothing to do with King James Onlyism.
Pslam 12:6
The words of the LORD are pure words as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
TO myself and others this simply means that Gods word is perfect, refining silver seven times over gives perfection, that is how perfect Gods word is.
TO yourself you interpret this verse that the King James Bible is Gods perfect version, and you manipulate the English translations to fit this.
Fortunately, most people see how ridiculously flawed this interpretation is and will have nothing to do with King James Onlyism.
Nothing in that verse says the KJV is the pure words of the Lord. I don't understand that verse, I don't know if it's talking about completeness, or seven bibles throughout history or maybe it is talking about the 7 revisions of the KJV... I don't know.
I use that verse along with the next verse to prove that God preserved his word forever, not as proof the KJV is the preserved word. I believe the KJV is the preserved word because it's inerrant, not to mention the word patterns and numberer of times words are used to mark biblical principles already given in scripture. Man is not capable of the things I've seen in the KJV.
I use that verse along with the next verse to prove that God preserved his word forever, not as proof the KJV is the preserved word. I believe the KJV is the preserved word because it's inerrant, not to mention the word patterns and numberer of times words are used to mark biblical principles already given in scripture. Man is not capable of the things I've seen in the KJV.
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Luke 10:1New International Version (NIV)[h=3]Jesus Sends Out the Seventy-Two[/h]10 After this the Lord appointed seventy-two[SUP][a][/SUP] others and sent them two by two ahead of him to every town and place where he was about to go.
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All good word for word translations have footnotes at the bottom to show that some manuscripts have other words in them...it is meaningless in the context....To say that the KJV only is the word of God is just spiritual ignorance gone to seed. I simply cannot believe the spiritual ignorance and idolatry that is in this thread. 53 pages of nonsense. *SMH*
All translations have bias including the KJV.....that's why the Lord has made available all kinds of Greek tools now for the common man to use. Any one with internet access can see any Greek word and structure. The Greek is so rich with different meanings to the words. The scriptures MUST be read by the Holy Spirit inside giving us revelation.
[h=4]Footnotes:[/h]
- Luke 10:1 Some manuscripts seventy; also in verse 17
All good word for word translations have footnotes at the bottom to show that some manuscripts have other words in them...it is meaningless in the context....To say that the KJV only is the word of God is just spiritual ignorance gone to seed. I simply cannot believe the spiritual ignorance and idolatry that is in this thread. 53 pages of nonsense. *SMH*
All translations have bias including the KJV.....that's why the Lord has made available all kinds of Greek tools now for the common man to use. Any one with internet access can see any Greek word and structure. The Greek is so rich with different meanings to the words. The scriptures MUST be read by the Holy Spirit inside giving us revelation.
In other words, man becomes the final authority on what God has said.
Why call it idolatry? Is that the best thing people can come up with? It's not idolatry to believe and trust that God has preserved His words for us. It's not idolatry to believe every word I read. It makes me a Bible believer. Instead of using "KJV only crowd" can you just refer to us as Bible believers. Thanks.
Why call it idolatry? Is that the best thing people can come up with? It's not idolatry to believe and trust that God has preserved His words for us. It's not idolatry to believe every word I read. It makes me a Bible believer. Instead of using "KJV only crowd" can you just refer to us as Bible believers. Thanks.
This is a perfect example of biblical illiteracy. You don't understand the biblical need for the number to be 70 and them being sent 2 by 2. It is not meaningless in the context, it's mandatory in the context, the context that you don't even know exists. So please stop correcting the bible on things you know nothing about, you are misleading people.
LOL..so the Lord ( which ever manuscript you use ) sent out 35 or 36 pairs of people depending on which manuscript you use.....but it's irrelevant in the scheme of things....
...people have shown in this thread the inconsistencies of the KJV and the many "versions" of it.....all translations have some variations...they all "translate" with a certain bias in one area or another.....let alone all the nuances of the Greek language...it is just completely spiritual ignorance to say this KJV book is the "only" word of God...
I read the KJV sometimes but I read the Greek interlinear to get a fuller understanding if I feel the Holy Spirit directing me....and He often does.
I am out of this foolish nonsense thread for good. I actually find it hard to even believe there are people that believe in this nonsense....but everyone is free to believe what they want....God bless you
...people have shown in this thread the inconsistencies of the KJV and the many "versions" of it.....all translations have some variations...they all "translate" with a certain bias in one area or another.....let alone all the nuances of the Greek language...it is just completely spiritual ignorance to say this KJV book is the "only" word of God...
I read the KJV sometimes but I read the Greek interlinear to get a fuller understanding if I feel the Holy Spirit directing me....and He often does.
I am out of this foolish nonsense thread for good. I actually find it hard to even believe there are people that believe in this nonsense....but everyone is free to believe what they want....God bless you
Just in case someone reading this has a little bit of discenrment, below is why the false bibles changed the number from 70 to 72... it has nothing to do with translational errors, it is a deliberate change to a different god. It comes strainght from occult Jewish Kabbalah.
The name of God is composed of 72 letters according to the cabalistic tradition. It comes from the mystical text (called Schemamphorash) of the Exodus, chapter 14 verses 19, 20 and 21 of which each one is composed of 72 letters in the original Hebraic text. It is this ineffable name of God whom murmured the great priest in the middle of the shouts of the crowd. It was replaced later by the sacred named, YHWH, than cabalists pronounce by spelling them one after the other: Yod, He, Waw, He. It is also by extraction and transposition of the three verses of the Schemamphorash that cabalists deduce the names of the 72 spirits (or angels) of the Cabal which they call the "explained divine name".
The name of God is composed of 72 letters according to the cabalistic tradition. It comes from the mystical text (called Schemamphorash) of the Exodus, chapter 14 verses 19, 20 and 21 of which each one is composed of 72 letters in the original Hebraic text. It is this ineffable name of God whom murmured the great priest in the middle of the shouts of the crowd. It was replaced later by the sacred named, YHWH, than cabalists pronounce by spelling them one after the other: Yod, He, Waw, He. It is also by extraction and transposition of the three verses of the Schemamphorash that cabalists deduce the names of the 72 spirits (or angels) of the Cabal which they call the "explained divine name".
Ignorance is not bliss man. You're the one who's been sucked down the river, not me. You fall for and promote all this new age god garbage. I'm curious WillieT are you under the influence of the same drunken spirit Grace is under? This not a jab at Grace, he readily admits she supports getting drunk in the spirit.
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So, if you don't trust in the translators, or what they said, but you DO believe that God used ONLY those men to preserve the "inerrant word" (which has already been proven to be wrong in numerous places)
WHO TOLD YOU that this was correct? Did God speak to you from a burning bush? Did he call you to the mountaintop and hand you the 1611 saying "This is my ONE True Word"...??
Do you realize just how silly and close-minded you sound?
WHO TOLD YOU that this was correct? Did God speak to you from a burning bush? Did he call you to the mountaintop and hand you the 1611 saying "This is my ONE True Word"...??
Do you realize just how silly and close-minded you sound?
Bull.... I told you about the 1 Cor 14 discussion on "unknown" tongues... where the Greek did not say "unknown", but the KJV along with many others, DID say that. That qualifies for "error" MUCH more than any of your "son of the gods" Nebuchadnezzar quote that you always drag out.
If the Greek didn't say "unknown", then the KJV translators just added it in because THEY thought that's what it meant.
Other people have come up with as good as, or better than that, but you and your crowd either ignore, or try to justify it somehow.
The KJV is no more "inerrant" than several other translations, and is quite a bit more difficult to read and comprehend.
If the Greek didn't say "unknown", then the KJV translators just added it in because THEY thought that's what it meant.
Other people have come up with as good as, or better than that, but you and your crowd either ignore, or try to justify it somehow.
The KJV is no more "inerrant" than several other translations, and is quite a bit more difficult to read and comprehend.