The REAL Ted Cruz?

[Sirk]

is this like when you trumpists blatantly redefined the term 'establishment' so that it no longer included one of the biggest moneyed interests in republican politics?

I realize you're trying to insult me with your "trumpists" term and no...this is where I tell you that people like you who put party above country are part of the problem.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

I own a corporation. We live under the laws that give us the best tax benefits.

Well that's fine and cool, but then why would you want corporations to be made illegal?

 

[4enlightment]

um hello?

trump -is- 'corporate america' trying to seize control of the nation...

[FONT=source_sans_proregular]As a Goldman Sachs executive, though, Heidi Cruz's work did not revolve around economic development for those on the bottom rung of the ladder: Her Wall Street job was focused on increasing the wealth of the already wealthy. [/FONT]http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/goldman-sachs-ted-cruzs-wife-heidi-worked-wealth-management-not-helping-lift

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

I realize you're trying to insult me with your "trumpists" term and no...this is where I tell you that people like you who put party above country are part of the problem.

'trumpist' is only an attempted insult insofar as it is insulting to be associated with that person...

if i was putting 'party over country' i wouldn't be refusing to vote for the republican nominee if the republican party nominates trump...

the problem right now is people like you who are putting 'trump uber alles'

 

[Sirk]

Well that's fine and cool, but then why would you want corporations to be made illegal?

Because corporations are granted personhood and as such, large ones tend to supersede the rights and dignity of real persons thru their ability to legislate laws on us thru lobbying. I don't think they benefit the public at large.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

'trumpist' is only an attempted insult insofar as it is insulting to be associated with that person...

if i was putting 'party over country' i wouldn't be refusing to vote for the republican nominee if the republican party nominates trump...

the problem right now is people like you who are putting 'trump uber alles'

"Trumpland, Trumpland uber alles, uber alles in der Welt."

Lolz.

 

[Sirk]

'trumpist' is only an attempted insult insofar as it is insulting to be associated with that person...

if i was putting 'party over country' i wouldn't be refusing to vote for the republican nominee if the republican party nominates trump...

the problem right now is people like you who are putting 'trump uber alles'

It's okay for you to be wrong even though you think it isn't. I won't hold it against you.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Because corporations are granted personhood and as such, large ones tend to supersede the rights and dignity of real persons thru their ability to legislate laws on us thru lobbying. I don't think they benefit the public at large.

Could one say that perhaps you are moreso against Citizens United ruling rather than corporations as a whole then?

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

[FONT=source_sans_proregular]As a Goldman Sachs executive, though, Heidi Cruz's work did not revolve around economic development for those on the bottom rung of the ladder: Her Wall Street job was focused on increasing the wealth of the already wealthy. [/FONT]http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/goldman-sachs-ted-cruzs-wife-heidi-worked-wealth-management-not-helping-lift

and this refutes -trump's- role as a corporate shark -how- exactly?

 

[Sirk]

Could one say that perhaps you are moreso against Citizens United ruling rather than corporations as a whole then?

Not really...I just like early America's handling of corporations in that they had to prove that they were advancing the public good and that they were granted temporararily.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

and this refutes -trump's- role as a corporate shark -how- exactly?

Lol it doesn't lady Rachel. The point is Cruz, Trump, Hillary, Bernie, even mine servant Kasich. They're all in the same boat. Wall Street is never popular in the elections, but it's always there.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Not really...I just like early America's handling of corporations in that they had to prove that they were advancing the public good and that they were granted temporararily.

I gotcha. I partially agree to that.

 

[Sirk]

and this refutes -trump's- role as a corporate shark -how- exactly?

So what if he is a corporate shark. He made choices he needed to make in the environment he needed to make them to make his business ventures a success.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

So what if he is a corporate shark. He made choices he needed to make in the environment he needed to make them to make his business ventures a success.

tell that to the founder of hobby lobby who doesn't donate to democrats...

contrary to the trumpist excuses...you -can- function in the business world -without- wallowing in the sleaze and corruption...

 

[Sirk]

tell that to the founder of hobby lobby who doesn't donate to democrats...

contrary to the trumpist excuses...you -can- function in the business world -without- wallowing in the sleaze and corruption...

Well I don't see him running for office either. Maybe you could convince him? Weren't you a Rubio supporter?

 

[4enlightment]

and this refutes -trump's- role as a corporate shark -how- exactly?

Trump is not a part of this circle.

[video]https://youtu.be/VcA3vkrj658[/video]

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Well I don't see him running for office either. Maybe you could convince him? Weren't you a Rubio supporter?

in any case we have another example of the trumpist tendency of holding double standards...

heidi cruz worked for goldman sachs which makes ted cruz tainted by corporate corruption...
but trump was just doing what he needed to do to be successful and therefore is blameless...

you need to invest in better whitewash...

 

[Sirk]

in any case we have another example of the trumpist tendency of holding double standards...

heidi cruz worked for goldman sachs which makes ted cruz tainted by corporate corruption...
but trump was just doing what he needed to do to be successful and therefore is blameless...

you need to invest in better whitewash...

Blameless is your word. Never used it. You need to invest in a better putting words in someone else's mouth program. BTW...you never answered my question.....weren't you a Rubio supporter?

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Blameless is your word. Never used it. You need to invest in a better putting words in someone else's mouth program. BTW...you never answered my question.....weren't you a Rubio supporter?

'blameless' is the word i chose for what is evidently your view of trump...

the fact is that you have yet to hold trump to account for -anything-...whenever anyone points out a fault in trump your reflexive response -every time- has been to make excuses...

if you don't hold him to be blameless then you sure have a strange habit of constantly trying to absolve him of blame...

regarding who i supported...i liked rubio...i also liked walker...and santorum...and perry...and fiorina...there was a point in this campaign where we had lots of good choices...any of which i would have been happy with...

 

[Sirk]

'blameless' is the word i chose for what is evidently your view of trump...

the fact is that you have yet to hold trump to account for -anything-...whenever anyone points out a fault in trump your reflexive response -every time- has been to make excuses...

if you don't hold him to be blameless then you sure have a strange habit of constantly trying to absolve him of blame...

regarding who i supported...i liked rubio...i also liked walker...and santorum...and perry...and fiorina...there was a point in this campaign where we had lots of good choices...any of which i would have been happy with...

Whats to hold him accountable for. He's already laid it all on the table. Do you want him to throw dirt on his head and beg for your forgiveness?
We're still finding out stuff about your candidates of choice.