What does the Bible say about homosexuality...
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Agreeing completely with all you said. (
That doesn't happen often with me.)
But I've bolded a paragraph of what you said to give you other practices that have also been shoved down our throat:
-- shacking up.
-- abortion.
-- legalizing marijuana.
-- secular humanism.
-- Blacks/African Americans can't help themselves so they have to be taken care of (that started with LBJ, so many probably don't even remember that one anymore), given special rights, and now? Now if they do crimes the police must no longer do anything about it. (I have never understood why that doesn't royally tick off the majority of the black community.)
-- Women must be allowed to do whatever men do. (There's a reason women shouldn't become firefighters. Firefighters can get 200-pound unconscious people out of a burning building. Most women cannot. There's a reason women aren't in the frontline in wars -- most of us can't carry 100 pounds of backpack for 20 mile marches to battle. Unfortunately, battles tend to require long marches to get to and then the right equipment to fight them.)
-- no such thing as Islamic terrorists.
-- no such thing as illegal aliens.
-- Oxycodone is simply evil with no benefits to anyone.
-- Any reasonable person knows evolution is right.
And, coming down the pike -- the next thing that will be shoved down our throats because after accepting all the baloney served up for the last several shoved-down-our-throats ideas with the exact same arguments, there's no way anyone can say this isn't reasonable too --
-- pedophilia is natural. (Copy/paste that into a search engine and you get lots of proof.) The name of the organization promoting that is NA-MBLA. (Hyphen added specifically so I don't contribute to their SEO efforts, since this is a public site.)
We have reason to backlash, but we have reason to backlash over many things. This is simply sin de jour. Not many dare to mention more of the list because then we're called racists, prejudice, ignorant, bigots, etc. Worse yet, saying it too loud can cause injury and death.
But I've bolded a paragraph of what you said to give you other practices that have also been shoved down our throat:
-- shacking up.
-- abortion.
-- legalizing marijuana.
-- secular humanism.
-- Blacks/African Americans can't help themselves so they have to be taken care of (that started with LBJ, so many probably don't even remember that one anymore), given special rights, and now? Now if they do crimes the police must no longer do anything about it. (I have never understood why that doesn't royally tick off the majority of the black community.)
-- Women must be allowed to do whatever men do. (There's a reason women shouldn't become firefighters. Firefighters can get 200-pound unconscious people out of a burning building. Most women cannot. There's a reason women aren't in the frontline in wars -- most of us can't carry 100 pounds of backpack for 20 mile marches to battle. Unfortunately, battles tend to require long marches to get to and then the right equipment to fight them.)
-- no such thing as Islamic terrorists.
-- no such thing as illegal aliens.
-- Oxycodone is simply evil with no benefits to anyone.
-- Any reasonable person knows evolution is right.
And, coming down the pike -- the next thing that will be shoved down our throats because after accepting all the baloney served up for the last several shoved-down-our-throats ideas with the exact same arguments, there's no way anyone can say this isn't reasonable too --
-- pedophilia is natural. (Copy/paste that into a search engine and you get lots of proof.) The name of the organization promoting that is NA-MBLA. (Hyphen added specifically so I don't contribute to their SEO efforts, since this is a public site.)
We have reason to backlash, but we have reason to backlash over many things. This is simply sin de jour. Not many dare to mention more of the list because then we're called racists, prejudice, ignorant, bigots, etc. Worse yet, saying it too loud can cause injury and death.
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Whoa! Homosexuals can't marry in your country? And I always thought the US was 20 years behind the humanism of Europe. By judicial decree (not vote), same-sex marriages are legal in the States. Most of the states, not all. All should take 1-2 more years. We flipped so hard and so quick on this I thought the world heard that sound.
I agree with you wholeheartedly Willie.
I was just being a goof because I don't have anything worthwhile to add. I'm actually reading along and trying to learn & understand.
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What became of John 3:19-20? Did that just disappear as the reaction of everyone to God's power because we never want to change? Or we just least wicked than others?
19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.
19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.
That is a hard one. I have had that discussion with Christians over the years. But one is specifically spoken of as sin in the bible, one is not. From a sanitary standpoint, the chance of disease increases with it, also with a man and woman doing what gay's do. I don't know if that is Gods way of making a statement about it...
Well, perhaps he believes it's not a sin, just an abomination?
Willie.... he really said "what say ye?" .... man, I'd have been rolling on the floor, tears in my eyes... we NEVER have that kind of fun in my church.... LOL
Willie.... he really said "what say ye?" .... man, I'd have been rolling on the floor, tears in my eyes... we NEVER have that kind of fun in my church.... LOL
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Yes, I did remember that, Willie. I truly respect your work and dedication in that area. I've counseled juveniles on probation for various violent crimes including sexual assault so it's not a shock to me at all. As I said, I was making light of the situation cuz it looked like it was getting heated in here. It's all good.
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A guy who got set free from homosexuality said it was Baal Peor worship.
pornography is Baal-Peor/satan worship Archives - Gen3x
pornography is Baal-Peor/satan worship Archives - Gen3x
The law was still In effect until JESUS finished the work on the cross
Sounds like If you were answering the question,your answer would be
When It comes to GOD,Is one sin worst than others?YES
GOD said,If you break the law at any point you have offended It all.
Would you agree that,thats true.
If you do then we both know that scripture should interpret scripture and with that being said GOD Is not the author of confusion.
Sounds like If you were answering the question,your answer would be
When It comes to GOD,Is one sin worst than others?YES
GOD said,If you break the law at any point you have offended It all.
Would you agree that,thats true.
If you do then we both know that scripture should interpret scripture and with that being said GOD Is not the author of confusion.
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I do not want you to answer the following question out loud. I just want you to think of the answer you'd give when asked.
What was your great sin area before Jesus saved you?
Okay, now this following question, I would like you to answer out loud.
Were you unaware of the guilt of that sin when God did save you?
There always seems to be this underlying current that we have to scold people about their sin first before telling them the gospels.
At one point in time, when I was backslidden (and backslidden getting high all the time, since sexual sin wasn't a sin I had until later in life), I became friendly with the vast majority of lesbians in the homosexual community of a fairly large university town. They knew I had no interest in homosexuality, but I liked a few of them as people. We were good friends.
And not one of us was missing what we were doing was sin. (We partied a lot together. I merely left when the party evolved into something else from lack of interest.)
Everyone talks about "we need to tell them the truth!" Actually, now that I rediscovered where Richard intended this to go from his very first post, that's the whole of the message! And it's really not the truth. It's "You're so much wronger than I ever have been, so let me beat you up about that and feel a bit more righteous about myself."
I've never met anyone who didn't know the truth of their sin area without needing to get beat over the head with it. I've never met a homosexual who couldn't answer Richard's first question n both the OT and the NT before a heterosexual Bible-verse-memorizing Christian could answer the question. They know it! They really really know it as much as we all knew what sin area we were caught in.
The answer isn't to beat them over the head to get "the truth." The answer is Jesus' saving grace. That's the part missing most the time, because once you beat someone over the head, you've also made them hit back or run away to miss the rest.
And might as well have that reaction, because the rest wasn't going to be friendly, once more loving, anyway.
What was your great sin area before Jesus saved you?
Okay, now this following question, I would like you to answer out loud.
Were you unaware of the guilt of that sin when God did save you?
There always seems to be this underlying current that we have to scold people about their sin first before telling them the gospels.
At one point in time, when I was backslidden (and backslidden getting high all the time, since sexual sin wasn't a sin I had until later in life), I became friendly with the vast majority of lesbians in the homosexual community of a fairly large university town. They knew I had no interest in homosexuality, but I liked a few of them as people. We were good friends.
And not one of us was missing what we were doing was sin. (We partied a lot together. I merely left when the party evolved into something else from lack of interest.)
Everyone talks about "we need to tell them the truth!" Actually, now that I rediscovered where Richard intended this to go from his very first post, that's the whole of the message! And it's really not the truth. It's "You're so much wronger than I ever have been, so let me beat you up about that and feel a bit more righteous about myself."
I've never met anyone who didn't know the truth of their sin area without needing to get beat over the head with it. I've never met a homosexual who couldn't answer Richard's first question n both the OT and the NT before a heterosexual Bible-verse-memorizing Christian could answer the question. They know it! They really really know it as much as we all knew what sin area we were caught in.
The answer isn't to beat them over the head to get "the truth." The answer is Jesus' saving grace. That's the part missing most the time, because once you beat someone over the head, you've also made them hit back or run away to miss the rest.
And might as well have that reaction, because the rest wasn't going to be friendly, once more loving, anyway.