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I don't care but if people start to fight and can't be civil they get bombarded by cats and that's that.
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What does the Bible say about homosexuality...
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What is it in the last couple of days? I keep being told I said stuff I never said, and then get blamed for being angry (even before I get angry) for not accepting the reproof when it was never something I said.
If you're mad at someone calling you a Lucifer worshipper, then tell that person. Don't lay it on me. I didn't even see the remark and would have stood up for you had I seen it.
"Pontificating leads to false assumptions..." So, if you believe this, why did you do that to me?
What is it in the last couple of days? I keep being told I said stuff I never said, and then get blamed for being angry (even before I get angry) for not accepting the reproof when it was never something I said.
If you're mad at someone calling you a Lucifer worshipper, then tell that person. Don't lay it on me. I didn't even see the remark and would have stood up for you had I seen it.
"Pontificating leads to false assumptions..." So, if you believe this, why did you do that to me?
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I have but so far a reach before I get angry at people accusing me of false things. It is a longer reach than it used to be. God has done that for me. (I'd probably wouldn't do this at all, if I truly let him lead me nonstop, but I take back my own leash sometimes.) But, man! Look at this conversation!
Who made up things that weren't true here? And who was it about? How far do you go when attacked before you get riled enough to respond?
Do you think God condones that?
I probably should be calmer, but I started another post yesterday and 1-2 other people accused me of things I never said, never meant, and were as opposite of what I meant as possible. Conservative estimate -- 95% of people got what I meant. The one I'm sure who didn't like it accused me of preaching an opposite gospel, which is amazing since his proof was as opposite of what I said as possible.
I asked him to prove what he said is true, but he couldn't/wouldn't. And now you're proof of what I said has something to do with calling you a Lucifer Worshipper? I would no more say that then I would say something in Inuit. (I speak no inuit.) It's not my personality to go off on the "satan worshipper" deal. Yet, once again you lay this at my feet as if that is who I am and then want me to prove I'm not?
Really? What would you do?
And add to that, JIA is no long JIA, but a different creature spewing vile too and laying those lies at my feet.
You say you just had the same thing happen to you the other day an didn't like it?
Then why do the same thing to someone else? Am I not clear I don't like it either?
Who made up things that weren't true here? And who was it about? How far do you go when attacked before you get riled enough to respond?
Do you think God condones that?
I probably should be calmer, but I started another post yesterday and 1-2 other people accused me of things I never said, never meant, and were as opposite of what I meant as possible. Conservative estimate -- 95% of people got what I meant. The one I'm sure who didn't like it accused me of preaching an opposite gospel, which is amazing since his proof was as opposite of what I said as possible.
I asked him to prove what he said is true, but he couldn't/wouldn't. And now you're proof of what I said has something to do with calling you a Lucifer Worshipper? I would no more say that then I would say something in Inuit. (I speak no inuit.) It's not my personality to go off on the "satan worshipper" deal. Yet, once again you lay this at my feet as if that is who I am and then want me to prove I'm not?
Really? What would you do?
And add to that, JIA is no long JIA, but a different creature spewing vile too and laying those lies at my feet.
You say you just had the same thing happen to you the other day an didn't like it?
Then why do the same thing to someone else? Am I not clear I don't like it either?
As time goes on the world gets more immoral,for that is the direction they are going,which the Bible says evil men shall wax worse,and worse,deceiving,and being deceived(2 Timothy 3:13),which points out their behavior will be worse in the last days(2 Timothy 3:1-7),and tells us of the last generation before Jesus comes back(Proverbs 30:11-14).
Ever since Adam and Eve ate the fruit,and rebelled against God,the world has been heading to the beast kingdom.
God warns us in the latter times there will be an interpretation of the Bible,that is not in the truth,and is doctrines of devils,that God warns us to stay away from it(1 Timothy 4:1-5),which is the new age movement,which they will forbid to marry,and that is for population reduction,which will become so popular that the time will come when people will only want to hear that interpretation,and they will turn from the truth(2 Timothy 4:2-4),which will happen during the first half of the tribulation,which is the falling away of man,and which will lead the world to the beast kingdom,where the man of sin will claim to have harnessed the power of nature,and obtained power(2 Thessalonians 1-13).
So although the new age movement is not as popular as it will become in the future,they are like every other group that tries to get their ways out in the world,and since they want population reduction,they will promote,and put out in the world the homosexual lifestyle,for people that are homosexual do not have children.
The new age movement accepts all religions,but interprets all religions according to evolution,honoring the God of forces,or the evolutionary process,and will win the religious war concerning religions of the world,having an interpretation according to evolution,and that interpretation for Christianity,Islam,and Judaism,and will not accept the fundamental beliefs of the 3 religions in the unified religious system,and since they will become popular in the future,the homosexual lifestyle will be accepted,and grow bigger in the world,which they will clash with all 3 religions,warring with them,that are fundamental,Islam first,then Christianity,and then Israel,which is the battle of Armageddon.
But God is against homosexuality,for God only sees a man and a woman married as legitimate,and the bed undefiled,and anything else is sexual immorality,and for men that part of the body is not meant for that purpose,and God sees it as lust,not love,and anything that is not love,is sin.
Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
This is talking about people that do not like to retain God in their knowledge,and want to believe that things came about in a different fashion,like evolution,instead of a higher power created all things,but while a traditional atheist does not like to retain God in their knowledge,I believe this mainly applies to people that are in to nature worship,trying to harness the power of nature for personal power,which that is what the new age movement is about,and a traditional atheist likes to be fact based,and does not go for that spiritual mumbo jumbo of people that are like the new age movement,and that is because people that are like that,the new age movement,lust for power by trying to harness the power of nature,but a traditional atheist would have more morals,and values than those type of people.
Since they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,God stopped working with them,and allowed them to be led of the flesh,with no interference from God,and they became very sinful,for the Bible says there is no good thing that dwells in the flesh,which one of those things they did was be homosexual.
In Genesis chapters 18,and 19,it tells the story of God appearing to Abraham,with 2 of His angels,all in human form,and God talking with Abraham,while the 2 angels headed to Sodom,and Gomorrah,which God said He knows they are wicked,but He will find out if it is true,or to the extent that they are wicked,which God would test them by how they treated the 2 angels in the form of men.
Abraham talked with God concerning the cities,and said God would not overthrow them if there were any righteous there,for God would not overthrow the good,with the bad,which God said if there were any righteous there He would not overthrow it.
The 2 angels came to Sodom,and Gomorrah,and Lot,the only one that God knew was righteous,let the 2 angels sojourn with him,and as they were with Lot,the whole city surrounded the house,and said,bring out those 2 men that we may know them,which that means they wanted to have sex with them,which the Bible said Adam knew his wife,and they had a child,and other instances,for that is what is means,to have sex in that instance.
This is also more proof that they wanted to have sex with the 2 men,for Lot offered his 2 daughters in exchange,and said do to them what pleases you,but leave these 2 men alone,for they are my guests,but they persisted that he bring out the 2 men.
The whole city surrounded the house,in one accord,in agreement with the act of having sex with the 2 men,or in support of it,and not one man cried out,brethren let us not do this wicked act,for it is wrong,but all were in agreement with the act,so then God knew that there were none righteous,and the 2 angels brought Lot and his family out of the city,and overthrew it.
Which the Bible says that God overthrowing Sodom,and Gomorrah,is an example to people to not act that way(Jude 1:7;2 Peter 2:6),which the main reason was homosexuality.
God is against homosexuality,but the new age movement that will become popular,causing to come about a unified religious system,that will lead to the beast kingdom,will cause homosexuality to become more,and more,popular,and practiced,as time goes on,and the devil is against all of God's ways,and wants to pervert all His ways on earth,in the exaltation department.
Dan 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Dan 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
The man of sin,or the New Age Christ,will have no desire of women.Forbidding to marry for population reduction,so homosexuality will be on the rampage,and more accepted as time goes by,for the new age movement is what will lead the world to the beast kingdom,and the man of sin.
Ever since Adam and Eve ate the fruit,and rebelled against God,the world has been heading to the beast kingdom.
God warns us in the latter times there will be an interpretation of the Bible,that is not in the truth,and is doctrines of devils,that God warns us to stay away from it(1 Timothy 4:1-5),which is the new age movement,which they will forbid to marry,and that is for population reduction,which will become so popular that the time will come when people will only want to hear that interpretation,and they will turn from the truth(2 Timothy 4:2-4),which will happen during the first half of the tribulation,which is the falling away of man,and which will lead the world to the beast kingdom,where the man of sin will claim to have harnessed the power of nature,and obtained power(2 Thessalonians 1-13).
So although the new age movement is not as popular as it will become in the future,they are like every other group that tries to get their ways out in the world,and since they want population reduction,they will promote,and put out in the world the homosexual lifestyle,for people that are homosexual do not have children.
The new age movement accepts all religions,but interprets all religions according to evolution,honoring the God of forces,or the evolutionary process,and will win the religious war concerning religions of the world,having an interpretation according to evolution,and that interpretation for Christianity,Islam,and Judaism,and will not accept the fundamental beliefs of the 3 religions in the unified religious system,and since they will become popular in the future,the homosexual lifestyle will be accepted,and grow bigger in the world,which they will clash with all 3 religions,warring with them,that are fundamental,Islam first,then Christianity,and then Israel,which is the battle of Armageddon.
But God is against homosexuality,for God only sees a man and a woman married as legitimate,and the bed undefiled,and anything else is sexual immorality,and for men that part of the body is not meant for that purpose,and God sees it as lust,not love,and anything that is not love,is sin.
Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
This is talking about people that do not like to retain God in their knowledge,and want to believe that things came about in a different fashion,like evolution,instead of a higher power created all things,but while a traditional atheist does not like to retain God in their knowledge,I believe this mainly applies to people that are in to nature worship,trying to harness the power of nature for personal power,which that is what the new age movement is about,and a traditional atheist likes to be fact based,and does not go for that spiritual mumbo jumbo of people that are like the new age movement,and that is because people that are like that,the new age movement,lust for power by trying to harness the power of nature,but a traditional atheist would have more morals,and values than those type of people.
Since they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,God stopped working with them,and allowed them to be led of the flesh,with no interference from God,and they became very sinful,for the Bible says there is no good thing that dwells in the flesh,which one of those things they did was be homosexual.
In Genesis chapters 18,and 19,it tells the story of God appearing to Abraham,with 2 of His angels,all in human form,and God talking with Abraham,while the 2 angels headed to Sodom,and Gomorrah,which God said He knows they are wicked,but He will find out if it is true,or to the extent that they are wicked,which God would test them by how they treated the 2 angels in the form of men.
Abraham talked with God concerning the cities,and said God would not overthrow them if there were any righteous there,for God would not overthrow the good,with the bad,which God said if there were any righteous there He would not overthrow it.
The 2 angels came to Sodom,and Gomorrah,and Lot,the only one that God knew was righteous,let the 2 angels sojourn with him,and as they were with Lot,the whole city surrounded the house,and said,bring out those 2 men that we may know them,which that means they wanted to have sex with them,which the Bible said Adam knew his wife,and they had a child,and other instances,for that is what is means,to have sex in that instance.
This is also more proof that they wanted to have sex with the 2 men,for Lot offered his 2 daughters in exchange,and said do to them what pleases you,but leave these 2 men alone,for they are my guests,but they persisted that he bring out the 2 men.
The whole city surrounded the house,in one accord,in agreement with the act of having sex with the 2 men,or in support of it,and not one man cried out,brethren let us not do this wicked act,for it is wrong,but all were in agreement with the act,so then God knew that there were none righteous,and the 2 angels brought Lot and his family out of the city,and overthrew it.
Which the Bible says that God overthrowing Sodom,and Gomorrah,is an example to people to not act that way(Jude 1:7;2 Peter 2:6),which the main reason was homosexuality.
God is against homosexuality,but the new age movement that will become popular,causing to come about a unified religious system,that will lead to the beast kingdom,will cause homosexuality to become more,and more,popular,and practiced,as time goes on,and the devil is against all of God's ways,and wants to pervert all His ways on earth,in the exaltation department.
Dan 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Dan 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
The man of sin,or the New Age Christ,will have no desire of women.Forbidding to marry for population reduction,so homosexuality will be on the rampage,and more accepted as time goes by,for the new age movement is what will lead the world to the beast kingdom,and the man of sin.
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I am unsure of where this comment stems from "I'm curious. Why don't you know what the Bible says? You seem to know what everyone else says." I had a bad feeling of where it would lead to if left unattended. What were you implying? I never made claim to "know what everyone else says". This is projecting thought to page and ultimately sways peoples thinking and opinion. I had no other intention on this thread but to open a meaningful dialogue on a topic which is widely mis-interpreted and not understood.
I did not detect much scrutinizing of the nature of the topic.
I feel your pain.
I am but a man ( of GREAT FAITH) on the other side of the keyboard who can only empathize with your life and circumstance. I am sure your cat's bring you a degree of joy that fills an empty spot in your heart and life. We have all been through so much in this life.
Our thoughts and Prayers go to you and your Husband (I am not speaking for those of you who care not less about who I am)...
The time is at hand that people should be putting aside petty indifferences and focus on topics of GREAT importance.
With love and peace.
I did not detect much scrutinizing of the nature of the topic.
I feel your pain.
I am but a man ( of GREAT FAITH) on the other side of the keyboard who can only empathize with your life and circumstance. I am sure your cat's bring you a degree of joy that fills an empty spot in your heart and life. We have all been through so much in this life.
Our thoughts and Prayers go to you and your Husband (I am not speaking for those of you who care not less about who I am)...
The time is at hand that people should be putting aside petty indifferences and focus on topics of GREAT importance.
With love and peace.
Well, in all your studies somehow these verses must've slipped by ya:
13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned,[a] but have not love, it profits me nothing.
13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned,[a] but have not love, it profits me nothing.
[h=1]Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV)[/h]7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?