Surrounded by a Sea of People, Yet Feeling Completely Alone. (What IS Loneliness?)

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seoulsearch

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Hey Everyone,

As singles, many of us talk about "loneliness"--but how would YOU personally define loneliness?

I don't know about you, but I can be (and am often) surrounded by people, but feel completely alone. I have also been in relationships, and even married, and felt the hollow, empty sting of loneliness as well (it was even worse then, knowing that this would be my situation forever, before it collapsed completely.)

For me, loneliness is a lack of being able to be myself and express what I'm thinking. All too often around other people, I put on "The Mask" we all wear and carry on throughout the day. I dutifully listen to what other people are talking about, and because I'm always curious, I can find a wide range of topics I know nothing about to be interesting. But getting someone else interested in what I'd like to talk about (the threads I write are a good example) is usually like pulling teeth, and I would rather be alone than constantly listening to others without them ever asking or showing an interest in what I'd like to talk about, too. If the conversation isn't going in two directions (with the exception of someone being in need, of course), I'd actually rather be by myself. To me, silence is a better companion than indifference.

Granted, I can't fault people at all for this because I have a pretty zany thought process. For example, I try to start my day with a devotional, so maybe in the morning, I'd want to talk about a passage I read (and I'd hope the other person would share something with me, too.) By midday, I might have read an interesting psychological aspect of a high-profile crime in the news (and I wish I had someone to talk to about it and ask them what they think.) By evening, it's been a long, hard day, and maybe it would be nice to spend time with someone and not say anything at all, but just have an exchange of knowing glances that said, "I'm exhausted. Let's just chill and watch a movie, please."

I guess for me, loneliness is the absence of sharing my raw, unedited self around another human being--and having enough trust between us that the other person will the same around me.

For me, loneliness is a state of being that can happen both when I'm alone and when I'm around other people.

And to be honest, I think it's even worse when I'm around others, because I lose hope that I'll ever find someone again (I had it once) with whom I have such a deep level of expression with, because that was the only time I felt like I belonged with someone and wasn't so alone.

Now I'd like to know YOUR thoughts on loneliness:

* What is loneliness to you?

* Is it worse when you're alone or with others?

* What makes you NOT feel lonely?

I know that God is supposed to be complete us and is always there with us.

But sometimes, as I sit and read the Bible, I feel even more alone when all I seem to sense is the deafening silence of the God who is always with me, but whose answer I all to often don't understand.

Thank you for sharing, and God bless. <3

How do YOU cope?
 
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I would define loneliness as the desire to be with people or with certain people. This is something I have never felt. I've always been my own best company.

I would say though that it is entirely possible to be surrounded by people and to still feel alone when you feel nobody "sees" you or understands you. This I have felt many times.
 
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coby2

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I don't like to be alone, but I don't feel lonely anymore. Lol I always have to think of this guy when I think I'm alone.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v2xwT7j1FCE

Lol when I just met my ex he was single after a long relationship and people from church said to him: are you all alone in that apartment? He said: No, it's the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit and me and dozens of angels.
 
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JeniBean

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Loneliness is something I personally have never felt. I enjoy life and myself. However I know that many people feel lonely, even Christians whom have GOD. My bestie is someone who CANNOT be alone. She must be surrounded by people and be the center of attention. I often think of her as my third child. I tell her that she is never alone, she simply needs to open her heart and soul to GOD further to see all that she and the world has to offer and she wouldn't feel alone. She tells me that I cannot understand because I look for the good in everything and that GODS gift to me is my kind and gentle heart and that I do not have a depressing bone in my body. Regardless I try to understand and help her the best I can to never be alone and feel lonely.

I really wish I could offer up some advise on this, however it is not an experience I am personally familiar with. I do look forward to seeing other response to see how I can further help my bestie.
 

Lynx

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"A crowd is not company. And faces are but a gallery of pictures." - said by someone, I forget who.

"With the Force, one is never truly alone." - Luke Skywalker

Loneliness is more than absence of others. It is a feeling that you have no connection to anybody else. It is not that you are physically alone, but that you feel you are alone emotionally. That is why you can feel lonely in a crowd, especially if they are all talking about something you have no interest or experience in - or conversely, if you have a tight family you can feel you are not lonely even when you are miles away from anybody, because you still have a connection to people you know, and people you care about and you know care about you.

And of course my music nerd brain started crooning "Only the lonely..." :rolleyes:
 

Tinkerbell725

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* What is loneliness to you?

Loneliness is just our thoughts that causes temporary feelings of nostalgia. Attachment and habit are the source of all loneliness in the world. When I remember someone I was emotionally attached to which happens often and I feel I have no control over, I feel sad. When we get used to things and people and lose them, we miss them.


* Is it worse when you're alone or with others?

It's worse when with others because when it happens you would rather be alone because you feel no one can cure your sadness.

* What makes you NOT feel lonely?

Sleeping/reading/movies/jigsaw puzzles/eating/workout/videoke/catch up with friends- all these may not take away all the loneliness but only alleviate it.

How do YOU cope?

I avoid overthinking. I try to divert my thoughts. Fight the feelings that are caused by those involuntary thoughts. But sometimes I give up because I may be able to lessen loneliness I know it will never go away. We were created with a hole in our hearts that only God can fill and unless we are here in this broken world in a broken body loneliness will continue to haunt us. Loneliness can haunt me but I will never let it overwhelm me to the point of depression because I will put my hope in God.
 
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LiJo

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I don't have a problem with loniness, even when I'm home by myself. I can always find something to occupy myself, whether it be chores or just curling up on the couch watching a movie. When I'm out and about I have no problem talking to people or drum up a conversation with them. If I'm at a large party I can pretty much find someone or a small group of people to converse and have fun with.

I'm in a relationship and we both have a close bond, but he does travel a lot for work and we are apart most of the time, and I miss him but the loniness is still not there because we still text and talk when we can. We both have our focus on God and our daily life schedule.

When other singles ask for advice about loneliness my suggestion is to encourage them to find a hobby they would like to participate in and do some research and find a group to join. The other suggestion is for them to volunteer, helping others tend to make you realize how bless you are, focusing on others take away the loneliness.
 

cinder

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Now I'd like to know YOUR thoughts on loneliness:

* What is loneliness to you?

* Is it worse when you're alone or with others?

* What makes you NOT feel lonely?

I know that God is supposed to be complete us and is always there with us.

But sometimes, as I sit and read the Bible, I feel even more alone when all I seem to sense is the deafening silence of the God who is always with me, but whose answer I all to often don't understand.

Thank you for sharing, and God bless. <3

How do YOU cope?
I've found for me that there are really two sides to the loneliness coin. One is isolation, simply not enough interaction with people throughout the day. Though it doesn't happen often, I can definitely keep myself away from people too much (strong introversion for the not quite win here I guess) and I don't necessarily recognize it as loneliness immediately. The other side is as Lynx said a lack of connection. This is the one that leaves me feeling even more down on myself because it works out that no matter how much good intentioned people want to include you, you feel the difference more keenly when you are around them. This is the loneliness I experience in churches a lot as well as just about any social situation where my differences are highlighted. And it usually has the added baggage that I feel bad for feeling bad or invalidating others best efforts by not being able to feel totally connected and accepted, but proximity does not automatically equal connection or community.

As for best ways to overcome loneliness, I think a lot of us take refuge online or in entertainment. I've found more than one kindred spirit or role model in the pages of a book or a movie. So CC helps, God helps, sometimes just getting out and hiking or biking alone instead of sitting at home alone with a sense of nothing to do helps. And often trying to find some way to help someone else out helps temporarily ( and then occasionally the people only want me around for what I can do for them downward mental spiral attacks, but I still don't regret being helpful). Best of all though is getting a chance to talk with one of those friends that may be too far away to hang out with, but a good conversation is pretty much guaranteed if you can catch them online.
 

Lynx

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Lijo it sounds more like you are talking about boredom than loneliness. Although they are connected, and one can cause the other.
 

seoulsearch

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I have to admit I'm quite fascinated by the people who've said they don't really experience loneliness. But I guess it's a bit like when I read about people being bored and unsure how to fill the time because I never really experience boredom (well, maybe sometimes at work, but you know how that goes. :)

When other singles ask for advice about loneliness my suggestion is to encourage them to find a hobby they would like to participate in and do some research and find a group to join. The other suggestion is for them to volunteer, helping others tend to make you realize how bless you are, focusing on others take away the loneliness.
Oddly enough, my volunteer/ministry/learning opportunities often leave me with the loneliest feelings of all, because something really cool/tragic/deeply moving would happen and I don't have anyone to talk to about it.

Although, I guess I'm a bit of an oddball in that I like ministries in which we get to talk to people who've been through extreme situations. My idea of "talking about my day" might be telling someone that my group talked to a former soldier whose best friend stepped on an explosive device and was killed right in front of him... So I do realize that the things I want to talk about aren't considered normal, typical, or at times, even acceptable topics of conversation.

Like many others, I often ease loneliness through staying busy. I'm always working on some sort of project or finding a way to keep myself occupied.

But for me, loneliness is the feeling that I wish I could tell someone else (and they would actually be interested) in what I'm working on (even the nitty-gritty details, like trying to sew a box pleat on a pocket), and have them share with me what they're working on, too.
 

Tinkerbell725

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I get you seoul. You are yearning for a shock absorber. :D
We all do. It would be nice to find someone who totally gets you. A good conversation after a long day is priceless.
 

seoulsearch

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I get you seoul. You are yearning for a shock absorber. :D
We all do. It would be nice to find someone who totally gets you. A good conversation after a long day is priceless.
I LOVE this, Tinkerbell!!!

Wow, what a great way to describe it. One of the reasons I value the forums so much is that people often communicate what I'm trying to express... in a much better way than I can.

Awesome post. Thank you so much!
 

Tinkerbell725

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I LOVE this, Tinkerbell!!!

Wow, what a great way to describe it. One of the reasons I value the forums so much is that people often communicate what I'm trying to express... in a much better way than I can.

Awesome post. Thank you so much!
Thanks for the reps. I did'nt expect the shock absorber will nail the reps from you. Lol!
Hope you find your shock absorber soon. Havent you notice anyone here who love shocking stories? I think there are a few curious ones here. :)
 
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MissCris

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Loneliness...yeah. I get it. I don't often think of it as being lonely, but that's what it boils down to- the feeling that people don't really get/care about what's on my mind, but also my inability to find ways to connect with them. I have this great skill at asking other people things that are either too personal or don't require more than a one word answer. I don't mean to do it, but from what a couple of new people in my town have said, I come across as "weird and standoffish". So I've got this whole little community here, a few other women near my age even for the first time since we moved here, and my husband tells me to just talk to them, make friends...he means well, but he doesn't go all awkward at new people so he doesn't get it.

It makes it worse when well-meaning people try to help. The "how can you feel lonely when you've got ____?" Or the "just make friends, it's easy". Not everyone works that way, and when someone acts like there's just some kind of switch to flip to "fix" loneliness, it's just...well, it's a lot of things, but I'll go with insensitive.

Anyway, I don't sit around and wallow in feeling lonely or anything, it's mainly something that sneaks up on me when I see a group of friends out together or when I've just gone to the store here and it's packed with people who all stop their conversation when I come in.

I think the worst part is knowing that it's mostly my own fault, for not being better at interacting with people...it's something I'm working on, but meanwhile, it kinda sucks.
 

sharkwhales

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Sometimes loneliness can be caused by a spirit telling you you are alone, or resonating its feelings of isolation and abandonment with you.

When I realized this I realized loneliness is a matter of perspective because all of heaven is with us, the saints the angels and the holy spirit, the son and the father.

It can be difficult to be disconnected from someone who was a part of our lives but it doesn't mean we're alone. Not that it isn't still a struggle to keep that perspective though. You just have to connect to heaven and to God more to overcome the disconnectedness that exists in this world.
 
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I was never good around people. I'm a weirdo and it's hard to relate to me. I'm not into enough guy stuff and don't think like most guys do so I have no male friends. I don't have anything in common with women and so I don't have any female friends. The best skill I learned was how to put on my "costume" and pretend I was somewhat normal and personable so I could work with people, but between you and me, I'm living a lie to collect a paycheck.

I've never known anything other than being alone, so I had to learn how to like it and how to keep myself occupied and entertained. No wonder my hobbies revolve around things I can do in solitude and enjoy by myself. I'd hardly know how to talk about my hobbies or interests other than the most superficial of terms, and my being a member here is the most social I've probably ever been.
 

seoulsearch

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I was never good around people. I'm a weirdo and it's hard to relate to me. I'm not into enough guy stuff and don't think like most guys do so I have no male friends. I don't have anything in common with women and so I don't have any female friends. The best skill I learned was how to put on my "costume" and pretend I was somewhat normal and personable so I could work with people, but between you and me, I'm living a lie to collect a paycheck.

I've never known anything other than being alone, so I had to learn how to like it and how to keep myself occupied and entertained. No wonder my hobbies revolve around things I can do in solitude and enjoy by myself. I'd hardly know how to talk about my hobbies or interests other than the most superficial of terms, and my being a member here is the most social I've probably ever been.
I can relate to this a lot. (I was debating on "liking" your post but didn't want to make it sound as if I "liked" the fact that you are often alone.)

For some reason, I'm often a person of polar opposite extremes.

I'm at a point now where, if I can't be around someone I truly feel a connection with, I'd just rather be alone, so I'm by myself a lot.

But if I do find someone I seem to connect with (for the past several years, it's always been in the form of friendships), we seem to be able to spend a lot of time together and it never gets old. I can go from being by myself all the time to spending all day with someone at work and then hanging out at their house with their family everyday if we have that kind of a bond.

It's just that it's extremely rare, and I can count on one hand the number of times (at different points of my life) that it's happened. I'm very grateful for those times.

I just wish they'd occur more often. The sobering part is that there are many people here I think I could form that bond with here on CC (going on their posts and the few I've seen in chat), but we all live too far away from each other.
 

Utah

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Being lonely stinks, but it's nothing a cold beer under a palm tree can't overcome. :cool:
 

zeroturbulence

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They say its lonely at the top, so.... congratulations!! :rolleyes: