Well the thing i d like to discuss is really god existence. How can we be sure god exists? Why don t everybody believe in jesus?
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I just have to say though, that you are misrepresenting my position as an agnostic. Basically i m on the edge, i do not find God ( notice the upper case) to be that obvious, and to be honnest with myself i need to ask believers to explain to me how they see God so that i can determine if they are right or not. So basically i m putting myself at your mercy, on a christian website, to convert me. Please go ahead but also please stay respectfull
I notice that most quote chapter and verse. I appreciate that you have read most if not all the 'spiritual' writings to be found. I can not prove God one way or another, it is not my job (if we have jobs), all I can do is tell you why I know there is.
All my life I have been a bit overboard with things, taken them to their limits what ever it is, but only what pleased me. School work never interested me, Work did after school, money never has but my family has. I understand from looking back over my life that I always made room for God somewhere within what most would call a hedonistic life style.
After the death of my first wife and being a single parent to a young girl of 9, I was conscious that my life was doing her no good at all. I had no idea what was going on in my head or life but I knew that "if" God existed, my life did not have anything to do with Him. My daughter would be better off with my family far away from me and where we were living. So I decided to make my cousin her ward and remove myself from the process, die.
"If" God existed and all I had read and learned about Him were true then why could I not see Him, feel Him, Talk to Him? Surely if He was the loving Father I had been taught about, as a child, He would want to talk and share with me as I did with my daughter, and NOT JUST WITH THE WRITTEN WORD! That was not enough.
If it was all a lie and God was a way the rich and powerful controlled the masses, then I did not want any part of it. If there was only blackness and non existence then my daughter would be better off without me and I did not want to go on any more.
I stood by the road side and watched for the right vehicle to walk under. I didn't want to end up in hospital, I didn't want to end up any where so I waited. Then I saw it, a huge arctic lorry, all I had to do was throw myself out. I heard a voice within me, it wasn't in my head it was in my heart, it said. "If you do this you will have to answer for what you will do to your daughter".
It stopped me. I could not understand why, I went home and became a heap. I did not want to live and I did not understand why the voice stopped me. But the voice also put in place within me a hunger for more which over rode all my senses and reason. Someone gave me a tract and out of desperation I read the prayer asking Jesus to live in me, I spent 4 days crying out in 'pain of spirit' is the only way I can describe it, then Jesus turned up.
God stood before me. As real as the wall next to me as real as the day and night as real as I was. Praise Him He was there. With computers we down load stuff, and that is the only way I can describe what happened, God downloaded into me Himself, and loads of knowledge and understanding, but most of all His Spirit, Himself.
He (His Spirit) leads me, convicts me when I am about to step out in me and not Him, He tells me when others are as well. God has talked to me verbally twice, so I could hear it with my ears, and numerous times within my heart, and all the time by His Spirit. His holy Spirit is a deposit of the Kingdom age to come and leads me where ever I go. I am still human and fail and make mistakes and fluff up, but my Daddy, my Father, my God, my Jesus is always with me and I love Him more than anything, more than My life, more than my new wife I thank Him for every day, more that My two boys He has given me.
God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit is my all, always. And because I know He also loves His creation so much that He let His son become a sacrifice for the sin that bought death into this world, I know if you ask Him for His word in your heart He will give it. You must ask in truth. Hold nothing back. Your own conscience will guide you to a place where you can lay yourself bare and vulnerable to Him, because only in 'that' place will He make Himself known.
God bless.