Mental Health Medications and Christians

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SHOULD CHRISTIANS TAKE MENTAL HEALTH PHARMACEUTICALS?

  • YES, MENTAL HEALTH PHARMACEUTICALS HAVE A LEGITIMATE PURPOSE FOR SOME CHRISTIANS

    Votes: 22 95.7%
  • NO, MENTAL HEALTH PHARMACEUTICALS SHOULD NEVER BE USED BY CHRISTIANS

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • Total voters
    23

KohenMatt

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It is food allergies that it is; but these bio tech corporations doesn't want people to know that their products is capable of having allergens. The only reason why that they doesn't want that secret to come out, it is because if someone is allergic to their products which that means that they will have to labeled their products and which they doesn't want anyone to know that our foods has been tampered with by splicing the DNA of one species with another specie. Like they had out on the market a few years ago that Flavor savor tomato. They had taken it off the market, but the reason why, they doesn't want anyone to know. But the tomato was combined with a gene of a fish to make it to be able to be tolerant to the freezing weather; but those that are allergic to fish will not be able to know that they are eating something that has fish in it and they will have a allergic reaction to this tomato that they had thought that it was safe to eat. Eventhough that it is a very small amount of fish DNA in it, but it is the antibiotic resistance gene that they put into their crops that lowers the plant's defense so that the plants have to accept the alien genes. And so if someone that is allergic to fish, that their immune system will not be able to defend them from the allergic reaction of the fish DNA that is in the tomatoes and so they will surely die.
I agree with almost everything you said here.

Trust me if you really stay away from these products that you will see the differences in your thinking pattern and so on; as if you were drunk before feeling into a sober feeling. The mind will not be foggy no more and you will be a lot energetic, able to leap over high grasses in a single bound. Make you wonder why people has been doing a lot of strange things that they normally wouldn't had done.
I agree as well here. Although there is a big difference between mental fog, and physical seizures. Organic non-GMO's don't always take care of everything. That's the broad generalization you should stay away from.
 
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Well we doesn't have to worry about abortion clinics anymore; it is because we has a new sheriff in town. Ever since GMO's had hit the stores shelves that there has been in increase rate of all sort of problems. But since politicians of the past had accepted bribes to produce laws to prevent any other science institutions accept for the ones that they receives gift from them are not able to accept the reviews of recorded information of evidence.


The rate of stillbirths in 2002 was 5.6 for every 1,000 births compared with 5.3 the previous year.
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said this was the first rise since the definition of a stillbirth was changed in 1992.
Figures published in Health Statistics Quarterly showed that there were 3,372 stillbirths in 2002 and 1,633 deaths within a week of birth.
Peter Goldblatt, health statistician at the ONS, said they were now proposing to conduct further research to find out why the stillbirth rate had risen.
"At the moment it appears to be a blip. We have looked at the number of factors that might have an influence on the recording of still births but have not found anything of note," he said.


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[h=1]These Charts Show Every Genetically Modified Food People Already Eat in the U.S. Genetically Modified Foods: What Is Grown and Eaten in the U.S.[/h]
This is what happens if any of you that tries to blow the whistle on them.
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blue_ladybug

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You really think I'm the "only one" who hasn't recovered from these illnesses? Certainly, many people have recovered from many mental illnesses through a change in diet an lifestyle alone. But if you ask any neurologist or natural "doctor" if there is a 100% success with any sort of medication, homeopathic or natural remedy, you will find virtually none that would say there is a 100% success rate. Do you have any detailed and credible research that has definitely said otherwise?




Go sit in a neurologist's office for a couple of days, get to know those people personally, and then tell them they're all wrong to take medications and if they would only go organic, all of them would "rapidly recover."

Don't make sweeping generalizations that have no medical or scientific basis just to support your belief.
Ok wait just a cotton pickin' minute!! A seizure disorder is NOT a mental illness. It is a neurological disorder and can be caused by many things. In my case, I was held back at birth because the doctor wasn't there yet and the nurses wanted to wait for him, before delivering me. Therefore, I had a loss of oxygen to my brain, which created the epilepsy that I have to this very day. Was I born with brain damage? Yes I was. Am I mentally ill because I have seizures? Absolutely not.

4enlightenment, your comment kind of offends me. God can heal any disease, definitely. However, even the most healthy person can fall ill, regardless of their diet, or whether they smoke or drink, or how much exercise they get. So for you to suggest going on an organic diet, is a bit ridiculous because disease does NOT care how healthily or badly you eat. So to imply that Kohen and myself and others don't have enough faith is rather insulting..
 
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I agree with almost everything you said here.



I agree as well here. Although there is a big difference between mental fog, and physical seizures. Organic non-GMO's don't always take care of everything. That's the broad generalization you should stay away from.
Well that is what I had thought but since the incident of my diaphragm became temporary paralyzed and twice, and the seizures that I have in the past that I never had before which that had came to me as a shock. But if any foreign object goes into the blood streams can cause all sort of nerves damages. i had remembered someone that had a mental plate put into his head that later on after the surgery, that he had a stroke because his body rejected the mental plate. You do not know how much little pieces of foreign substance can do when it get into your bloodstream. I know lead can also be the cause of seizures.


[h=1]Lead Poisoning and Seizures Lead Poisoning and Seizures[/h]
 

JosephsDreams

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You really think I'm the "only one" who hasn't recovered from these illnesses? Certainly, many people have recovered from many mental illnesses through a change in diet an lifestyle alone. But if you ask any neurologist or natural "doctor" if there is a 100% success with any sort of medication, homeopathic or natural remedy, you will find virtually none that would say there is a 100% success rate. Do you have any detailed and credible research that has definitely said otherwise?

There is no 100% cure rate. But a diet that induces biological healing at a cellular level can do wonders. Many can get off their meds., or drastically reduce the dosage. But certainly not everyone.



Let's see....4 months of an organic, detailed food allergy diet. Completely filtered water. Essential oils for any and every ailment during that time. Natural Vitamins and Supplements. No medication. Still seizure-like symptoms.

(With the exception of the detailed food allergy diet (which were cured after the diet and still are,) I'm still doing all of those things.)

Go sit in a neurologist's office for a couple of days, get to know those people personally, and then tell them they're all wrong to take medications and if they would only go organic, all of them would "rapidly recover."

Don't make sweeping generalizations that have no medical or scientific basis just to support your belief.
First, it is true, there is no 100% cure rate. But a diet that induces biological healing at a cellular level can do wonders. Many can get off their meds., or drastically reduce the dosage. Maybe even more then not. But certainly not everyone.

I have said it time and again about people who say or think, or in some cases were even prescribed a diet by someone who who may have a degree; the diet they were on is not even close to what they need to do.
And it is sometimes, even often, a life time commitment.
It is possible, but I respectfully say you probably were not on a diet that went into true biological healing.
 
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Ok wait just a cotton pickin' minute!! A seizure disorder is NOT a mental illness. It is a neurological disorder and can be caused by many things. In my case, I was held back at birth because the doctor wasn't there yet and the nurses wanted to wait for him, before delivering me. Therefore, I had a loss of oxygen to my brain, which created the epilepsy that I have to this very day. Was I born with brain damage? Yes I was. Am I mentally ill because I have seizures? Absolutely not.

4enlightenment, your comment kind of offends me. God can heal any disease, definitely. However, even the most healthy person can fall ill, regardless of their diet, or whether they smoke or drink, or how much exercise they get. So for you to suggest going on an organic diet, is a bit ridiculous because disease does NOT care how healthily or badly you eat. So to imply that Kohen and myself and others don't have enough faith is rather insulting..
God had given us dietary laws that we suppose to have followed in order to prevent any health problems that everything can go smoothly with you and our children while we are on this earth.

Deuteronomy 5:33 Walk in obedience to all that the Lord your God has commanded you, so that you may live and prosper and prolong your days in the land that you will possess.



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ArtsieSteph

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#47
I'm a person who relies on medication to basically function. I have OCD, ADD, and anxiety. I have had panic attacks, my panic and fear of those have caused me to not sleep at times for....I think the longest was a week.

In my case, I have to take the meds. I just do. I can also attest to that feeling of, "Oh I'm cool" and being sort of lackadaisical about church attendance. But I have never thought, I don't need God because I'm feeling ok. I have always had the attitude, even when my brain was like "maybe I don't need Him," that I always need Him. And if I think I don't that means I need Him even more.

That being said, I don't tell people to just go take medicines. I say: be healthy. Eat your food, take your meds, sleep well. Just take care of yourself. And obviously, lean on God. Cuz He knows what's going on way deep inside before we even do.

Also I think that God could cute me of all my maladies in a second, but whether He does or not is up to Him. We all have thorns in the flesh at times.
 

blue_ladybug

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Go had given us dietary laws that we suppose to have followed in order to prevent any health problems that everything can go smoothly with you and our children while we are on this earth.

Deuteronomy 5:33 Walk in obedience to all that the Lord your God has commanded you, so that you may live and prosper and prolong your days in the land that you will possess.



[video]https://youtu.be/jtj8RZkAzy8?list=PLy9QJX2oahL4VD42kcdQYPvl422oC2OP s[/video]

[video]https://youtu.be/Rj8JoJXP9dI[/video]

That may be true, in a PERFECT world with no sin. However, we are in an evil, fallen world, where even the plants and fruits God gave us can kill us. Peaches contain cyanide, choke cherries are poisonous if ingested. Poison ivy causes a wicked itch if you get into it. So not ALL of the plants, herbs, trees, and fruit that God gave us are good for us. Adam and Eve proved that with the tree of knowlege. :/ If we were meant to be immortal, we could eat these things and not die. But we are mortal, so if we eat something that disagrees with us, then we die.
 

JosephsDreams

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Ok wait just a cotton pickin' minute!! A seizure disorder is NOT a mental illness. It is a neurological disorder and can be caused by many things. In my case, I was held back at birth because the doctor wasn't there yet and the nurses wanted to wait for him, before delivering me. Therefore, I had a loss of oxygen to my brain, which created the epilepsy that I have to this very day. Was I born with brain damage? Yes I was. Am I mentally ill because I have seizures? Absolutely not.

4enlightenment, your comment kind of offends me. God can heal any disease, definitely. However, even the most healthy person can fall ill, regardless of their diet, or whether they smoke or drink, or how much exercise they get. So for you to suggest going on an organic diet, is a bit ridiculous because disease does NOT care how healthily or badly you eat. So to imply that Kohen and myself and others don't have enough faith is rather insulting..
LB, your wrong that disease does not care of what type of diet your on. I am living proof of that. And I personally know about 10 other people that can attest to that. And I know of about 500 people that can attest to that. And thats just me, in my small little world.
God can heal anything. But you can't on the one hand violate His natural laws, and then on the other, say, hey God heal me. Even though He can, and sometimes will, most of the time it is not going to happen.
 

JosephsDreams

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I am not suggesting we won't one day fall sick and die. Just that most of us are living a lower quality of life then we need to, and are being cut down before our time.
 

Demi777

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I take a sleeping pill about once a week because I have really bad sleeping issues from my fibromyalgia.. I think unless you are all drugges up 24/7 and use it wisely you can take some stuff. Its hard or even impossible to hear from God when your drugged up. And not all the time meds are needed some things you can rebuke.
 

blue_ladybug

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LB, your wrong that disease does not care of what type of diet your on. I am living proof of that. And I personally know about 10 other people that can attest to that. And I know of about 500 people that can attest to that. And thats just me, in my small little world.
God can heal anything. But you can't on the one hand violate His natural laws, and then on the other, say, hey God heal me. Even though He can, and sometimes will, most of the time it is not going to happen.

How are you a testament to that? I know of people who never smoked, drank, ate very well, exercised, you name it, and they STILL got some disease and died. :/ That's why I said disease doesn't care what diet you have. Some diseases are hereditary, some are genetic, and others are the result of trauma. There are several causes of disease. I know healing won't happen to me in this lifetime. I've begged and prayed for it, and nada. :/
 

JosephsDreams

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Ok wait just a cotton pickin' minute!! A seizure disorder is NOT a mental illness. It is a neurological disorder and can be caused by many things. In my case, I was held back at birth because the doctor wasn't there yet and the nurses wanted to wait for him, before delivering me. Therefore, I had a loss of oxygen to my brain, which created the epilepsy that I have to this very day. Was I born with brain damage? Yes I was. Am I mentally ill because I have seizures? Absolutely not.

4enlightenment, your comment kind of offends me. God can heal any disease, definitely. However, even the most healthy person can fall ill, regardless of their diet, or whether they smoke or drink, or how much exercise they get. So for you to suggest going on an organic diet, is a bit ridiculous because disease does NOT care how healthily or badly you eat. So to imply that Kohen and myself and others don't have enough faith is rather insulting..
And last, yes, you may have irreversible damage. But you won't know until you try a diet that could possibly induce healing. And have you done intensive hyperbaric chamber therapy?
Have you consstently taken blue green algae's?
Have you consistently done a routine of a good probiotic?
Essential oils?
 

JosephsDreams

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How are you a testament to that? I know of people who never smoked, drank, ate very well, exercised, you name it, and they STILL got some disease and died. :/ That's why I said disease doesn't care what diet you have. Some diseases are hereditary, some are genetic, and others are the result of trauma. There are several causes of disease. I know healing won't happen to me in this lifetime. I've begged and prayed for it, and nada. :/
They may have never smoked and drank, but I doubt they really ate very well as you claim. And there are many variables with disease. Hereditary factors play a role, but if your living right, that influence is greatly diminished.
 

blue_ladybug

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And last, yes, you may have irreversible damage. But you won't know until you try a diet that could possibly induce healing. And have you done intensive hyperbaric chamber therapy?
Have you consstently taken blue green algae's?
Have you consistently done a routine of a good probiotic?
Essential oils?
​No to all of those questions. You don't know much about epilepsy, do you? Step into my shoes and I'll rewind the last 4 decades for ya. I take enough pills already, I ain't taking algae and probiotics and whatever else on top of it..
 

Demi777

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​No to all of those questions. You don't know much about epilepsy, do you? Step into my shoes and I'll rewind the last 4 decades for ya. I take enough pills already, I ain't taking algae and probiotics and whatever else on top of it..
Nuh uh most pills make more damage. Hugs God bless you sister a friend of mine has Epilepsy. she has to wear a hat so the sun doesnt get on her head and shes always beside herself because of all them meds. Its horrible
 

blue_ladybug

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They may have never smoked and drank, but I doubt they really ate very well as you claim. And there are many variables with disease. Hereditary factors play a role, but if your living right, that influence is greatly diminished.

​Yet the fact remains that we still fall ill, regardless of our diet. Why? Because we live in satan's evil and fallen world, where he is lord and master over us. :/ Everything bad in this world is caused by sin and allowed by God. After all, God created sin.
 
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That may be true, in a PERFECT world with no sin. However, we are in an evil, fallen world, where even the plants and fruits God gave us can kill us. Peaches contain cyanide, choke cherries are poisonous if ingested. Poison ivy causes a wicked itch if you get into it. So not ALL of the plants, herbs, trees, and fruit that God gave us are good for us. Adam and Eve proved that with the tree of knowlege. :/ If we were meant to be immortal, we could eat these things and not die. But we are mortal, so if we eat something that disagrees with us, then we die.
Poison Ivy I never had an allergic reaction from it, maybe it is because I was raised on a kosher diet. But we need to bring awareness to others about what is going on so that they will know the importance of voting whom in office. In the past accept for JFK and Nixon (And look what has happened to them) has been accepting kick backs from corporate america to have things approved that are not suppose to be approve at all. And now they has put their ex lawyers Michael Taylor and Clarence Thomas in places to speed up the process of approval and reject those that goes against them. If we keep these Nuts from entering office, maybe we can go back living a more healthy lifestyle. But it is written that one day that the price of a loaf of bread will cost a day's wages. I guess corporate america is going to win for a moment. I guess I am going to have to start budgeting or buy my own wheat farm in order for i can make a peanut butter sandwich in the future without having to sell my vehicle or whatever.
 

JosephsDreams

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I don't know it like you do, but my sister in law had it. And I studied it a bit while I was in school.
I never said go off your meds, did not even imply it.
It's not what you take, it is what you leave out.
Everything comes back to God. He talks to us in everything.
Freedom from being a slave to sin is not by works, but by what we don't do.
Gods laws are universal. The same principal extends to our bodies.

I can understand how the world can be brainwashed by the worlds wisdom. The world = the world.
But Christians should have a freedom mindset. Our thoughts and ways should not be their thoughts and ways.
What binds them should not bind us.

So sometimes we are bound by fear of failure, or of breaking our comfort zones. That is not from God.

He came to set the captives free.
 

blue_ladybug

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I don't know it like you do, but my sister in law had it. And I studied it a bit while I was in school.
I never said go off your meds, did not even imply it.
It's not what you take, it is what you leave out.
Everything comes back to God. He talks to us in everything.
Freedom from being a slave to sin is not by works, but by what we don't do.
Gods laws are universal. The same principal extends to our bodies.

I can understand how the world can be brainwashed by the worlds wisdom. The world = the world.
But Christians should have a freedom mindset. Our thoughts and ways should not be their thoughts and ways.
What binds them should not bind us.

So sometimes we are bound by fear of failure, or of breaking our comfort zones. That is not from God.

He came to set the captives free.

So I'm supposed to take a huge leap of faith and go off my seizure meds? I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon. If God wanted to set me "free", he would have by now. I mean, it's been 40 years and I'm still afflicted. However, one day soon I'll receive my painfree body and the wait will have been worth all the flippin' agony I go through on a daily basis. :)