Mental Health Medications and Christians

[Magenta]

That's a question to which you will almost never get an honest answer. (I remember, vividly someone here saying they held up two packages of cookies in the grocery store, asking, "Which one should I get?"

If there is one thing we should ALL understand, it is that we should eliminate all dairy products and absolutely as much sugar as possible from our diets. Oh, yeah, and drink oodles of water. (And that is just a tiny bit of a starter.)

I have a hard time drinking as much water as I am supposed to
But I do use stevia instead of sugar in my coffee

 

[Depleted]

You missed my point.
I never said I did not have sympathy for him, nor did I imply it.
What he said about quacks and MD's being the only source of advice is dangerous and ill informed.
I stand by it.
You may not like how I made my point, but I was not asking for everyone's approval or acceptance. I am not looking to rile anyone, but conversely, I am not taking a poll.
And I never judged him as a man, a human or a Christian.
Your lowering the standard of the conversation, not me.
If you knew me and said that, it might mean something to me...

You said he was ignorant at 74. If you knew him and said that, what you say might mean something to anyone. You really have no idea when you owe someone an apology, do you?

You know something? The first time I saw you decide someone was unworthy and then pronounced your judgement even before knowing him, I thought, "He's new. No one ever taught him any better. Maybe some day God will teach him better." You never did apologize to him. You laughed it off.

Then Ladybug tells you you offended Billy, And you DO DID!) and you immediately offend her instead. You didn't even hear her, before you made you judgement, (that YOU, of all people, suddenly felt picked on.) I had to go back to see if Ladybug was making too much of something, like you pawned it off. NOPE! You again. This is your arrogance, not anyone ganging up on you. People have told you nicely and not so nicely to knock it off and apologize. You STILL think it's anyone but you.

Congrats! You just hit St. Ignora! Nothing here to see.

 

[JosephsDreams]

What would that be for?

The side effects of inulin dietary fiber diet which may occur in sensitive persons are:

• Intestinal discomfort, including flatulence, bloating, stomach noises, belching, and cramping
• Diarrhea
• Anaphylactic allergic reaction (rare) - inulin is used for GFR testing, and in some isolated cases has resulted in an allergic reaction, possibly linked to a food allergy response.

(from wiki)

That is for larger doses, and over time. And even then, not with everyone. It is a component in more then a few foods. Sprinkling a little on food sometimes ill not cause that in most people.
Inulin is a prebiotic, so it develops host environment for pro biotics. And it is sweet.
But I was more kidding then serious, as I was just guessing she doesn't like the taste of saurkraut and was just joking that she should sweeten it up.
But I know she wasn't going to eat it regardless, because she said she did not like it.

Wiki
Inulin is a natural storage carbohydrate present in more than 36,000 species of plants, including wheat, onion, bananas, garlic, asparagus, Jerusalem artichoke and chicory. For these plants, inulin is used as an energy reserve and for regulating cold resistance.

 

[blue_ladybug]

I have a hard time drinking as much water as I am supposed to
But I do use stevia instead of sugar in my coffee

I use stevia too. Not very often, though. Only in my hot coffee, which I drink only once in a blue moon. Don't ever try Sweet And Low. That stuff is nasty tasting..

 

[Magenta]

That is for larger doses, and over time. And even then, not with everyone. It is a component in more then a few foods. Sprinkling a little on food sometimes ill not cause that in most people.
Inulin is a prebiotic, so it develops host environment for pro biotics. And it is sweet.
But I was more kidding then serious, as I was just guessing she doesn't like the taste of saurkraut and was just joking that she should sweeten it up.
But I know she wasn't going to eat it regardless, because she said she did not like it.

Wiki
Inulin is a natural storage carbohydrate present in more than 36,000 species of plants, including wheat, onion, bananas, garlic, asparagus, Jerusalem artichoke and chicory. For these plants, inulin is used as an energy reserve and for regulating cold resistance.

Yeah, it sounded like a bit of a sweetener but I was not sure. I use stevia. I think I may actually try it if I ever make a cheesecake again. I make a killer white chocolate cheesecake with raspberries and sour cream topping. Yeah, like I said, killer LOL with a kilogram of cream cheese in it and up to a pound of white chocolate. It does not need much sweetening after all that

 

[blue_ladybug]

That is for larger doses, and over time. And even then, not with everyone. It is a component in more then a few foods. Sprinkling a little on food sometimes ill not cause that in most people.
Inulin is a prebiotic, so it develops host environment for pro biotics. And it is sweet.
But I was more kidding then serious, as I was just guessing she doesn't like the taste of saurkraut and was just joking that she should sweeten it up.
But I know she wasn't going to eat it regardless, because she said she did not like it.

Wiki
Inulin is a natural storage carbohydrate present in more than 36,000 species of plants, including wheat, onion, bananas, garlic, asparagus, Jerusalem artichoke and chicory. For these plants, inulin is used as an energy reserve and for regulating cold resistance.

Now see, I DO like onions, asparagus, garlic, artichokes and such. I use garlic all the time to flavor my food.

 

[thepsalmist]

I started a plant-based diet about a month ago ... eating like Daniel, basically ... I started feeling healthier and more energetic almost instantly and I lost some weight without fretting or suffering like diets cause you to do. Joined the gym again yesterday after a long sabbatical ... woke up on FIRE! Yikes! ... a little muscle sore now ... but all in all - feeling absolutely GREAT!

 

[JosephsDreams]

You said he was ignorant at 74. If you knew him and said that, what you say might mean something to anyone. You really have no idea when you owe someone an apology, do you?

You know something? The first time I saw you decide someone was unworthy and then pronounced your judgement even before knowing him, I thought, "He's new. No one ever taught him any better. Maybe some day God will teach him better." You never did apologize to him. You laughed it off.

Then Ladybug tells you you offended Billy, And you DO DID!) and you immediately offend her instead. You didn't even hear her, before you made you judgement, (that YOU, of all people, suddenly felt picked on.) I had to go back to see if Ladybug was making too much of something, like you pawned it off. NOPE! You again. This is your arrogance, not anyone ganging up on you. People have told you nicely and not so nicely to knock it off and apologize. You STILL think it's anyone but you.

Congrats! You just hit St. Ignora! Nothing here to see.

I did not laugh it off. Go back and reread the posts. Your not remembering correctly.
His comments were ignorant. It doesn't matter what age he is.
And insensitive and insulting.
Looking back, I could have said his comments were ignorant, instead of saying he was, that's true.
Your opinion is duly noted, and I respect it, but I think your being one sided on this.
You must have been ignored as a kid. I noticed you like to do that to people when you have something with them.

 

[tourist]

Your thoughts may be with good intentions, but your displaying your ignorance. But then again your 74 years old. Your just parroting what your generation knows.
Your day is almost past. There is a reason the younger people have more knowledge about lifestyle on one hand then you do in your whole body.
It is largely because of your generations experimentation with pesticides, and drug treatments they come to the conclusions they have. Why we have had a complete turn around in how we view diet and lifestyle.
Your generation laughed at people who jogged. You looked at weight lifters as odd balls.
It was your generation that spurred the hippie movement. The younger people had a more finely tuned innate grasp of why this country was failing then its parents did.
It was your kids that began to question things. They asked why are blacks being treated so disgracefully. Why did we have to go to Vietnam. Why can't woman be treated as equals.
And now you want to rant about the god like powers of MD's. But no surprise, because to your ilk, they and the United States government could do never do any harm. Never lie nor mislead you.
You have seen your day, and I for one am glad we are coming out of those dark ages when people who viewed the human body holistically were treated like the witches were at Salem. Your way of thinking about nutrition and biological healing is archaic.
I am glad things are working out for you. It is true, you don't know what you don't know.
Ignorance is bliss.

I'm not sure how being 74 years old has to do with the assumption that you have made. What makes you think that his day has almost passed? You have used a broad brush dissing the older generation and Billy in particular.

 

[coby2]

That's a question to which you will almost never get an honest answer. (I remember, vividly someone here saying they held up two packages of cookies in the grocery store, asking, "Which one should I get?"

If there is one thing we should ALL understand, it is that we should eliminate all dairy products and absolutely as much sugar as possible from our diets. Oh, yeah, and drink oodles of water. (And that is just a tiny bit of a starter.)

Lol I once did a 1000 calory diet for myself and fooled myself, didn't write them all down. Yay! 1000 calories today! Ah that snicker has almost nothing in it, that doesn't count.

 

[Magenta]

I use stevia too. Not very often, though. Only in my hot coffee, which I drink only once in a blue moon. Don't ever try Sweet And Low. That stuff is nasty tasting..

Do you drink cold coffee? I will use honey instead of sugar if I am drinking coffee away from home, though some places do not offer it. In those cases I will mix sugar and some of the sorbitol product, I forget which is which, there are pink packages and yellow packages, why are we being offered known carcinogenics to put in our daily drinks anyways?

 

[Justcallmetinman]

Is this thread turning into FULL ON BRAWL? Time out saints!!! Cool off and let it ride. Dont attack your brothers and sisters. We have enough spiritual warfare to contend with. Dont let satan steal tongues.

 

[thepsalmist]

I tossed some potatoes and broccolli into a skillet to boil, when they were almost done I added onions and fresh tomatoes , some flavored oils, pesto and cilantro and simmered it together for a bit... and then wrapped the mix up in a whole grain tortilla with a sliver of brie ... Wow ... what a lunch! Big change for me ... but my body has been loving it ... and the transition was painless because of that.

 

[JosephsDreams]

I said in a previous post here, maybe about 3 or 4 pages back, why I used the strategy I did in the way I responded.
I said a few posts back that I could have made it less personal. I probably should have said his comment was ignorant, not him,
While I see that maybe I got carried away, why is that no one is mentioning that he essentially called me a quack, my profession quackery, without any provocation from me?
Frankly I was stunned he said that, and a bit taken aback.

 

[Justcallmetinman]

Now see, I DO like onions, asparagus, garlic, artichokes and such. I use garlic all the time to flavor my food.

Garlic is good for alot of things! I eat it all the time. Its a girl repellent too(bad bad breath) haha
Did you know rosemary is a lung cleanser? I have a rosemary bush. Its an acquired taste inasmuch as pulling some off the limb and eating it raw but its healthy. lol

 

[Magenta]

Is this thread turning into FULL ON BRAWL? Time out saints!!! Cool off and let it ride. Dont attack your brothers and sisters. We have enough spiritual warfare to contend with. Dont let satan steal tongues.

What? Cheesecake for you!!!

 

[Willie-T]

Actually, she said she couldn't afford it. So what do you do? Keep going on about you. There's this obvious problem you aren't getting. Disabilities tend to require money to be dealt with. Some of them cost jobs. Too disabled to work. Guess where the two tend to lead? Brokesville!

And yet somehow the ball is in the Brokesville court? Heads up. Brokesville tends not to lend itself to tennis courts. Sometimes it doesn't even lend itself to a single tennis ball.

So, you know what would help? Listening without assuming so much.

You think you're ganged up on now? Guess what! Almost everyone on this board that I know, (I'm guessing 60%-80% of the people I know on here) ARE disabled in one form or another.

And look what we keep getting. Message after message after message about our side of the tennis courts! Constantly telling us, in one way or another how to fix our problems with God, with a new fad diet, with a diet that only works for roughly 10%, and, dagnabit even staying away from electricity! We're on the Internet! Seems kind of obvious we're all using the evil electricity. (Wicked sarcasm, but at least you know this isn't all about you. lol)

So, how about a break from trying to fix thorns?

Stop arguing the science long enough to realize there are other human beings on the other side of that screen too!

How does it cost you money to STOP eating quite a few things? And the amount of water we consume is almost free.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Do you drink cold coffee? I will use honey instead of sugar if I am drinking coffee away from home, though some places do not offer it. In those cases I will mix sugar and some of the sorbitol product, I forget which is which, there are pink packages and yellow packages, why are we being offered known carcinogenics to put in our daily drinks anyways?

I drink iced coffee. Usually two cups, but sometimes only one.

 

[Depleted]

Did you not read a word of what I wrote? I was an organic vegetarian, I ate wonderfully for 25 years before I got RA.

If anyone should not have gotten sick, it is me! Then take my mom! She is 86 and has never been sick a day in her life. She ate beef 2 to 3 meals a day for 50+ years. She had a small garden, but it was mostly to save money. She drank, she partied, and she was never sick. I imagine she will live another 10 or 20 years. Till she is over 100, too!

But it is not a lifestyle choice, or eating the right foods. It is about genetics. My mother and father both had sisters who died of pneumonia when they were 5 years old. There were no antibiotics in those days.

So did I get the unhealthy lung genes? I think so! I was incredibly active, and up to the last year, I have been riding my bike over 30 km every second day. I watched my pulmonary lung function go from 750 on a peak flow meter, down to 550 after getting pneumonias and asthma. The doctors couldn't believe how big my lungs were - partly from exercise, and partly from playing flute.

But illness caused me to lose it. Because those are the bad genes I was dealt. And then, the RA, well, my grandmother, raised on an organic farm had it, and a cousin got it age 1 1/2. She also lived in the country, and ate naturally. Or do you think my cousin needed to eat the 5 right foods as a toddler?

I guess some people are just always going to be quacks, with their know-nothing YouTube videos. I guess you just can't educate the whole world -especially arrogant people who have never been sick a day in their lives. I would pray that you never get sick, but perhaps God has some sort of healing of the spirit which will be accomplished through sickness, like it was with me!

God used my RA in amazing ways, so now I follow Christ and nothing else, and hopefully, all the days of my life!

I'm not trying to teach you anything. Just thought you'd get the humor in this, because you have the family like mine.

In 1991, Dad had a big health scare. (Precancerous growth in his prostate, so he had it removed thinking he was dying of cancer.) To celebrate living, he took his whole family on a cruise -- six kids between the ages of 5 and 38, his soon-to-be ex, my brother's wife, (hm, soon-to-be-ex too, except we knew Dad already didn't like his wife), their two kids, (same age as my my younger sister and my youngest brother), and my hubby.

We had three months to prepare for this and there were some waterfalls I wanted to climb (Ocho Rio in Jamaica), so hubby and I got busy getting slim, trim, and fit. And we weren't that overweight back then anyway, so it was doable. (Eveningwear required, so... ya know? And remember, I'm the woman in overalls, so me in eveningwear and swimsuits was big in itself. lol)

We ate together as a family. We were on vacation, so we ate as much as we wanted. Dinner is covered in the price of the cruise, so... well, there wasn't a single person at that table trying to eat the right number of calories.

Five kids in my family, plus two of us had spouses. Hubby and I were the heaviest there, even if we were okay weight-wise. A seven-day cruise and only two people at that table never had room for a full second dinner, (my three brothers who were adults then all had the same dinner as a second helping somewhere during the week, at least once -- the stone mason did that three times) and/or dessert. (Same brother ate dessert too. Sometimes that twice. In all fairness though, that's more because he gathered the stones himself, and most of the stones he used were between 25-50 pounds, so he was scary-strong, and always wiry.) And they were great looking desserts -- my idea of sugar heaven, and I so love sweet. Two people never did that. Hubby and me!

The two people who most wanted to eat more than we did, couldn't. The ones who never have to work at their weights always had dessert, and one or two nights after two full plates of dinner!

ARRRGGHHHHHH! Why can't the really great genes ever get past to the ones who'd really appreciate them?

 

[Willie-T]

Garlic is good for alot of things! I eat it all the time. Its a girl repellent too(bad bad breath) haha
Did you know rosemary is a lung cleanser? I have a rosemary bush. Its an acquired taste inasmuch as pulling some off the limb and eating it raw but its healthy. lol

And she also gives a mean massage! (Not the same girl?)