Mental Health Medications and Christians

[Depleted]

Of course it is true, that is how people die of overdoses, sometimes deliberately.

Reality is everything we put in our diet is a drug. Eat an orange and the drug is vitamin C. Eat a carrot -- carotene. Eat meat -- protein. Eat chocolate -- the good chocolate is sugar. lol

We can die eating too many oranges, carrots, meat, or sugar. We can die eating too much anything, because our body takes out whatever is in what we eat to use.

And on the other side, poison is only poison if eaten enough of it to cause the damage. Russian Sage is poisonous, but we didn't know that until after a summer of eating it. (No damaged. Thought it was just another sage, so used it as an herb.) Poison ivy causes me no problems because I haven't been around it to get the allergic reaction. (Also, allergy, not poison. Only poison, if it causes serious damage.) Even Datura isn't quite as poisonous as it is assumed. It used to be used to knock people out for surgery, (like amputating a limb. We're talking Dark Ages.) Carrot leaves are poisonous, and yet very few die from them, because you have to eat enough for it to kill you.

The EXACT same deal with prescription drugs the vast majority of the time, however, "no one died" makes a lousy headlines so people like inundating themselves with minutiae and then pretend it IS the headline!

The "prescription drugs kill thousands" responses in this thread should have been added to the Conspiracy Theory forum, not the Bible Discussion forum. (And then again, so should this thread.)

 

[Depleted]

Thank you, M. Finally, someone who agrees with my diet.

Can't help it. Hotdogs, chocolate and sugar taste good. Sure, I can't eat by taste, but to go completely healthy? Blah! lol

 

[JosephsDreams]

There is B1, B2 and B3, thiamine, riboflavin, and niacin. They say the Bs are present in nuts and greens, but you would have to eat an awful lot to get the amount the bottled kind provide. There are other Bs as well, B6 is great for reducing swelling, and other things, B12 is mostly in meats, cyancobalamin, that is from memory, which I need ginkgo biloba for LOL

It is better to take methylcobalamin B12. The cyan form has a extract of cyanide.

 

[Depleted]

BTW, since "someone," (My, Willie, it is fun to pretend I'm being upright without using your name), is mocking me that I've ignored, (and then I saw everyone quoting him), I will admit I did hold up two packages of cookies to decide which one to get and did tell that story. Then again, I forgot the gossip and "righteous-judgement" rate on here and didn't think I needed to add "sugar-free" to make sure I fit in prim and proper with the "in-crowd" on this forum.

Does anyone else get very tired of the "righteous-judgement" group on here? Honestly? I recently asked a question on the Natural Health section but somehow asking for suggestions about sweet vegetables turned into a discussion about herbs, sugar doesn't cause cancer, oils, and diabetes. Too many "experts" trying to second guess people before simply answer the question. I'd like to learn how to eat healthier, but I don't need the articles about health issues I already have. And I really don't need lessons on herbs. I have most of the herbs used in cooking growing out back. Even went so far as trying Stevia. It grew fine, (a boring looking plant though), but the sweetness ratio is so different from sugar I never figured out how to make something not too-sweet. That says something about how sweet it is, considering I love sweet. lol

Pretty much what happened here actually. "Mental Health" turned into another discussion on how to eat good and right.

 

[Depleted]

Lol I once did a 1000 calory diet for myself and fooled myself, didn't write them all down. Yay! 1000 calories today! Ah that snicker has almost nothing in it, that doesn't count.

One of John's coworkers was told he had diabetes and then he had to go on a 1500 calorie a day diet. He was telling that to everyone as he ate his egg sandwich, fried potatoes, bread with butter, and a mug of coffee with sugar and cream in it. John told him he already used up his 1500 calories that day.

The co worker got furious and told him it was 1500 calories per meal because, "no one can live on a measly 1500 calories a day."

Next day he came back very embarrassed. He had talked to his doctor after work. lol

 

[Magenta]

It is better to take methylcobalamin B12. The cyan form has a extract of cyanide.

Ack, I am behind the times! They be trying to poison us?

 

[JosephsDreams]

Thanks for that informative answer Joseph

Actually, after all the bad eating and sedentary life over the last two years I have gained quite a bit of weight ... so unlike you, I don't have to worry about being rail thin for a while

I do find an interesting phenomenon though ... after going to the gym I am not hungry ... but something commands me to eat ... our bodies are so smart

I read, last night, that after going to the gym one should eat a protein based food within the hour. You were into body- building ... what do you think? Should a body builder eat in a specific way???

A lot of the answer depends to on your goals. If your looking to become a semi or competitive body builder, that is one thing. If you just want to decrease fat, increase muscle mass, and just tone up and stay in shape, that is another.

 

[Depleted]

If people ate right they would not have HBP.

And we're back to this. Want to tell Angela how eating right stops her from having RA too? (I could keep going but I know this goes back to anecdotal evidence over Uncle Bob sooner or later. Probably sooner.)

 

[JosephsDreams]

It also strengthens bones. My uncle couldn't BF when he was a baby and formula was not readily available, it may not have even existed back then. Grammie had to put him on raw cow's milk and he has drank that all his life. Fast forward to his adult years, he was driving a big tractor and it rolled onto him pinning him under it. His doctor said his bones should have been splinters and shards but they were in tact.
Yes I believe that it was the grace of God working through raw milk. and quite frankly I seriously doubt that it causes that much harm to the body.

Actually it weakens bones over time. Raw milk is a different animal then pasteurized. And there is also a moderate synergistic effect. Can you show me why scientifically you don't think it does much harm? Unbiased studies. Not paid for by the milk industry?
I can pull up articles that says it does.

 

[Depleted]

Are you kidding me?

Scientists: 'Look, One-Third Of The Human Race Has To Die For Civilization To Be Sustainable, So How Do We Want To Do This?' - The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Yes! Actually. It's The Onion! So, yes! Most definitely kidding you. (So important to understand your sources! Now go look up who The Onion is!)

Can we quit using satirical mags and junk science as proof for whatever we want to believe in the first place?

 

[JosephsDreams]

Really? You called a brother ignorant more than once and yet still demand anyone listen to you?

The average gall bladder can expand to the size of a pear when it gets full of gall/bile. I dare say yours is pushing watermelon size by now.

I thought you were ignoring me Lynn.
My judge, jury and executioner.
Are you looking to argue with me now?
I said maybe I could have softened my answer.
You want blood?
And how about that he essentially called me a quack? uncalled for, with no reason.
But your okay with that, right?
Why not take him to task for that?
I know two wrongs don't make a right, but why keep on with me?
That is why I said I am being ganged up on.
Leave me alone if you can't be nice to me.

 

[JosephsDreams]

Reality is everything we put in our diet is a drug. Eat an orange and the drug is vitamin C. Eat a carrot -- carotene. Eat meat -- protein. Eat chocolate -- the good chocolate is sugar. lol

We can die eating too many oranges, carrots, meat, or sugar. We can die eating too much anything, because our body takes out whatever is in what we eat to use.

And on the other side, poison is only poison if eaten enough of it to cause the damage. Russian Sage is poisonous, but we didn't know that until after a summer of eating it. (No damaged. Thought it was just another sage, so used it as an herb.) Poison ivy causes me no problems because I haven't been around it to get the allergic reaction. (Also, allergy, not poison. Only poison, if it causes serious damage.) Even Datura isn't quite as poisonous as it is assumed. It used to be used to knock people out for surgery, (like amputating a limb. We're talking Dark Ages.) Carrot leaves are poisonous, and yet very few die from them, because you have to eat enough for it to kill you.

The EXACT same deal with prescription drugs the vast majority of the time, however, "no one died" makes a lousy headlines so people like inundating themselves with minutiae and then pretend it IS the headline!

The "prescription drugs kill thousands" responses in this thread should have been added to the Conspiracy Theory forum, not the Bible Discussion forum. (And then again, so should this thread.)

You are mixed up with some of this. Our body can readily detoxify some endogenous materials, and some accumulate over time.
Please, your causing more harm then good here with comments like that. If your not sure, don't put it out there.

 

[Magenta]

You know ... it killed me when I found out that the food we feed the cows we want to eat could feed the world over ...

We feed multitudes of cows while millions of people starve.

Some people will tell you that the most beneficial thing you can do to support the planet is to stop eating meat, since the same resources it takes to produce however many pounds of beef, for instance, will produce way more rice, for example. Bovine spongiform encephalopathy was totally the fault of man, feeding herbivores (cows) diseased meat from sheep. When it was discovered after the burning of how many cows? And recommendations made to prevent it happening again, guess what happened? People kept doing it, and there was another outbreak of "Mad Cow Disease." Then you have those who naively tell you that foods are being genetically modified to feed the starving. Twenty years later the starving are still starving, and franken foods are promised to be safe while we cannot rest assured that they really are, since we know big business will tell any lie if they can get away with it while making their millions and billions. Good bye butterflies and bees

 

[JosephsDreams]

BTW, since "someone," (My, Willie, it is fun to pretend I'm being upright without using your name), is mocking me that I've ignored, (and then I saw everyone quoting him), I will admit I did hold up two packages of cookies to decide which one to get and did tell that story. Then again, I forgot the gossip and "righteous-judgement" rate on here and didn't think I needed to add "sugar-free" to make sure I fit in prim and proper with the "in-crowd" on this forum.

Does anyone else get very tired of the "righteous-judgement" group on here? Honestly? I recently asked a question on the Natural Health section but somehow asking for suggestions about sweet vegetables turned into a discussion about herbs, sugar doesn't cause cancer, oils, and diabetes. Too many "experts" trying to second guess people before simply answer the question. I'd like to learn how to eat healthier, but I don't need the articles about health issues I already have. And I really don't need lessons on herbs. I have most of the herbs used in cooking growing out back. Even went so far as trying Stevia. It grew fine, (a boring looking plant though), but the sweetness ratio is so different from sugar I never figured out how to make something not too-sweet. That says something about how sweet it is, considering I love sweet. lol

Pretty much what happened here actually. "Mental Health" turned into another discussion on how to eat good and right.

Don't ask the question of you don't want the answer. Is it okay with your highness if we ad lib a little. For your benefit, btw, even if you don't realize it.

 

[Magenta]

Meanwhile the multinational corporations are forcing their will on us
with the complicity of our government, who denies us having a choice
in the matter, because they are also in the pockets of evil corp,
along with the medical profession

 

[keepitsimple]

K ... a serious eating healthy question ? When I eat my two rows of Chocolate Chunk cookies, is it healthier for me to dunk them in 2% or is Almond milk the healthier alternative ?

 

[4enlightment]

The food pyramid is actually more of a political document then a nutritional one.
The best thing you can do at your age Willie is to try, I stress try, I know it is not easy, is to give up as many processed foods as possible, and eat at least 35% to 60% raw food. Lots of salads, steamed veggies (not roasted, or boiled), fruits, raw nuts, seeds, sprouts, beans, and glutton free grains like Amaranth, Quiona, buckwheat, and brown rice. Those grains should be limited to about 2 to 3 times a week.
Try to get the animal protein down to 3 days a week, if you can.
This is more important than doing all organic, even though organic is good, and if it is available and one can afford it.

It is becoming more and more affordable each day because people are becoming aware of how healthy that it is for them to eat that away. Most major foods chains are having their own organic products, and even Walmart has lot of organic products and their own brand of organic at a very good price. And if they are not on the shelves, that you can special order these products without an extra charge.



Organic Foods - Walmart.com

https://www.heb.com/static-page/H-E-B-Organics

Safeway Introduces O Organics Affliated stores is Vons, Albertsons, Safeway, Tom thumbs


True Goodness Organic and Naturals | Meijer

 

[coby2]

One of John's coworkers was told he had diabetes and then he had to go on a 1500 calorie a day diet. He was telling that to everyone as he ate his egg sandwich, fried potatoes, bread with butter, and a mug of coffee with sugar and cream in it. John told him he already used up his 1500 calories that day.

The co worker got furious and told him it was 1500 calories per meal because, "no one can live on a measly 1500 calories a day."

Next day he came back very embarrassed. He had talked to his doctor after work. lol

LOL

Years ago we had a fast with church, but to make it less difficult people could have a sort of Daniel's fast and just eat one simple meal a day, meaning dry bread with cheese or some vegetables. Lol so one guy took one meal a day: an Indonesian big dinner with chicken and other meat, lol an alternative Daniel's fast.

 

[4enlightment]

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[CS1]

this is a very interesting Poll.

I do not think I could answer it as it is asked due to so many variables. I do not think the Poll is as cut and dry as it is asked. matt 9:12 says: But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans serif]. [/FONT]

[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans serif] That being said , many Doctors today over prescribe and wrongly give seriously mind altering drugs to people who are becoming addicted or using the med's as they are not to be used with Alcohol and other controlled substances. This has serious results and could be irreversible to the person. Unfortunately many in the " Pill " business" do not have your well being in mind. I would hope one would try good counsel to treat emotional issues first before prescribing chemicals to fix an issue that is cognitive and not chemically imbalanced. [/FONT]