Mental Health Medications and Christians

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SHOULD CHRISTIANS TAKE MENTAL HEALTH PHARMACEUTICALS?

  • YES, MENTAL HEALTH PHARMACEUTICALS HAVE A LEGITIMATE PURPOSE FOR SOME CHRISTIANS

    Votes: 22 95.7%
  • NO, MENTAL HEALTH PHARMACEUTICALS SHOULD NEVER BE USED BY CHRISTIANS

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • Total voters
    23

blue_ladybug

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K ... a serious eating healthy question ? When I eat my two rows of Chocolate Chunk cookies, is it healthier for me to dunk them in 2% or is Almond milk the healthier alternative :eek: ?

Almonds have cyanide in them..
 
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K ... a serious eating healthy question ? When I eat my two rows of Chocolate Chunk cookies, is it healthier for me to dunk them in 2% or is Almond milk the healthier alternative :eek: ?
There's nothing wrong with milk. They have recently found out that cows that are grass fed and pasture raised is a lot healthy than the conventional fed. The meats in grass fed animals has high amount of omega 3's that help prevent clog arteries and other health problems. What ever the way God had intended for them to eat, that researchers are now knowing that it is healthier for them and us.

[h=1]Why Grassfed Animal Products Are Better For You Why Grassfed Animal Products Are Better[/h]


Pasture-raised animal products like grass-fed beef, bison, buffalo or lamb, pasture-raised organic pork, and raw cheese from grass fed cows, though not yet as easily available in the market as their feedlot-raised counterparts, are becoming popular because of the apparent health benefits that they deliver. One other food product that is slowly catching the attention of health conscious individuals is grass-fed butter. Hailed for its delectably rich flavor, grass-fed butter, too, has a lot to boast in the nutrient and micronutrient department. http://superhumancoach.com/benefits-of-organic-grass-fed-butter/

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Then there was that other woman who had an issue of blood 12 years and speaks of her suffering many things of many physicians (not just one)

Mark 5:25 And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse,

And "spent all she had" (sounds familar) while never getting any better but growing even worse


 
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thepsalmist

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It also strengthens bones. My uncle couldn't BF when he was a baby and formula was not readily available, it may not have even existed back then. Grammie had to put him on raw cow's milk and he has drank that all his life. Fast forward to his adult years, he was driving a big tractor and it rolled onto him pinning him under it. His doctor said his bones should have been splinters and shards but they were in tact.
Yes I believe that it was the grace of God working through raw milk. and quite frankly I seriously doubt that it causes that much harm to the body.
I think ... if a tractor rolls over you and your bones are not splinters and shards you should thank God - not milk. :)
 
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A lot of the answer depends to on your goals. If your looking to become a semi or competitive body builder, that is one thing. If you just want to decrease fat, increase muscle mass, and just tone up and stay in shape, that is another.
You're right, Joseph ... I guess I will work on the latter first and then, God granting, I will consider pursuing the former. :)
 
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thepsalmist

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And we're back to this. Want to tell Angela how eating right stops her from having RA too? (I could keep going but I know this goes back to anecdotal evidence over Uncle Bob sooner or later. Probably sooner.)
Yes many testify that diet change has reversed RA ...
 

shrimp

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I think ... if a tractor rolls over you and your bones are not splinters and shards you should thank God - not milk. :)
I do. I thank God for making the cow that produced the milk, that He designed, that strengthened his bones.
 
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thepsalmist

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Yes! Actually. It's The Onion! So, yes! Most definitely kidding you. (So important to understand your sources! Now go look up who The Onion is!)

Can we quit using satirical mags and junk science as proof for whatever we want to believe in the first place?
I had no idea ... I thought it was completely off the wall! thanks for letting me know ...

But your response to my innocent mistake was completely uncalled for ... To use your own recent words

"Really? You called a brother ignorant more than once and yet still demand anyone listen to you?" -Depleted
 
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Well I know that I was raised most of my young life on raw milk and others as well. But in other countries like africa, that is the only way they drink milk, in the raw.



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Well what do you know... That ole' Africa has less breast cancer patients in the world and they doesn't has advance doctors and good health care like we do. Maybe they are so poor that even the cancer virus doesn't want to even move there.
 

Billyd

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Your thoughts may be with good intentions, but your displaying your ignorance. But then again your 74 years old. Your just parroting what your generation knows.
Your day is almost past. There is a reason the younger people have more knowledge about lifestyle on one hand then you do in your whole body.
It is largely because of your generations experimentation with pesticides, and drug treatments they come to the conclusions they have. Why we have had a complete turn around in how we view diet and lifestyle.
Your generation laughed at people who jogged. You looked at weight lifters as odd balls.
It was your generation that spurred the hippie movement. The younger people had a more finely tuned innate grasp of why this country was failing then its parents did.
It was your kids that began to question things. They asked why are blacks being treated so disgracefully. Why did we have to go to Vietnam. Why can't woman be treated as equals.
And now you want to rant about the god like powers of MD's. But no surprise, because to your ilk, they and the United States government could do never do any harm. Never lie nor mislead you.
You have seen your day, and I for one am glad we are coming out of those dark ages when people who viewed the human body holistically were treated like the witches were at Salem. Your way of thinking about nutrition and biological healing is archaic.
I am glad things are working out for you. It is true, you don't know what you don't know.
Ignorance is bliss.
It was my generation that brought you youngsters into this world. We left you with a future brighter than any generation before or after us. I leave that discussion there.

I encourage everyone to eat a balanced healthy diet. I'll leave the seaweed, algae, and grass to the animals in the food chain that have developed the digestive systems to process that diet.

In the US there are laws about practicing medicine without a license. They are in place to protect the public from people who really have no idea what they are doing. I attended the funeral of a young Vet who committed suicide a few weeks ago. His medications made him feel drowsy. A good Samaritan like you told him that he didn't need the medication that had been prescribed for his PTSD. He told him to just give the problem to God and throw away the pills and follow a diet plan.

Again, to anyone reading this post, if you are in need of mental or any other health care, seek a qualified licensed healthcare professional, who will properly diagnose the problem, and prescribe the proper treatment of you condition. If you doubt that you are being prescribed the proper treatment, seek a second opinion.

If ignorance is bliss, your generation will have a blissful life. Most of my generation will enjoy the fruits of our youth, while watching you youngsters grow up making the same mistakes that we did. In a few years we will go home to enjoy the rewards of our salvation in Christ. Don't worry though. You're only a few years behind us.
 
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BTW, since "someone," (My, Willie, it is fun to pretend I'm being upright without using your name), is mocking me that I've ignored, (and then I saw everyone quoting him), I will admit I did hold up two packages of cookies to decide which one to get and did tell that story. Then again, I forgot the gossip and "righteous-judgement" rate on here and didn't think I needed to add "sugar-free" to make sure I fit in prim and proper with the "in-crowd" on this forum.

Does anyone else get very tired of the "righteous-judgement" group on here? Honestly? I recently asked a question on the Natural Health section but somehow asking for suggestions about sweet vegetables turned into a discussion about herbs, sugar doesn't cause cancer, oils, and diabetes. Too many "experts" trying to second guess people before simply answer the question. I'd like to learn how to eat healthier, but I don't need the articles about health issues I already have. And I really don't need lessons on herbs. I have most of the herbs used in cooking growing out back. Even went so far as trying Stevia. It grew fine, (a boring looking plant though), but the sweetness ratio is so different from sugar I never figured out how to make something not too-sweet. That says something about how sweet it is, considering I love sweet. lol

Pretty much what happened here actually. "Mental Health" turned into another discussion on how to eat good and right.
Hey, you wrote it. I just repeated it.

Plainly put, Sugar is a killer.

Cancer cells (which all of us have in our bodies all the time) feed and multiply on sugar. They LOVE the stuff. And it actually shuts down your immune system. One meal loaded with sugar can almost completely stop your immune system from doing its indended job for as much as three full days.
 
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let the words of my mouth and the foods I put into my body be acceptable unto
Thee, my Strength and my Redeemer...
 
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coby2

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It was my generation that brought you youngsters into this world. We left you with a future brighter than any generation before or after us. I leave that discussion there.

I encourage everyone to eat a balanced healthy diet. I'll leave the seaweed, algae, and grass to the animals in the food chain that have developed the digestive systems to process that diet.

In the US there are laws about practicing medicine without a license. They are in place to protect the public from people who really have no idea what they are doing. I attended the funeral of a young Vet who committed suicide a few weeks ago. His medications made him feel drowsy. A good Samaritan like you told him that he didn't need the medication that had been prescribed for his PTSD. He told him to just give the problem to God and throw away the pills and follow a diet plan.

Again, to anyone reading this post, if you are in need of mental or any other health care, seek a qualified licensed healthcare professional, who will properly diagnose the problem, and prescribe the proper treatment of you condition. If you doubt that you are being prescribed the proper treatment, seek a second opinion.

If ignorance is bliss, your generation will have a blissful life. Most of my generation will enjoy the fruits of our youth, while watching you youngsters grow up making the same mistakes that we did. In a few years we will go home to enjoy the rewards of our salvation in Christ. Don't worry though. You're only a few years behind us.
And I did an attempt because they gave me pills and I'm not the only one. I'd never tell someone to just stop with pills if they work. I warned one guy though on a forum who got pills and all of a sudden wanted to kill himself, just like I had. It was forbidden there to say, they later removed my post, but I told him to throw it away and watch Derek Prince and T.B. Joshua to be set free from that demon. He did and thanked me, because it was gone immediately, that urge to grab a raisor blade and kill himself. Healthy food is not the solution for such things, deliverance prayer is. In our church people get set free and stop taking pills because their psychiater says it isn't necessary anymore.
Except for my son. I just made sure he didn't get pills and was set free before they could give it to him.
 
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thank you Willie and Blue,

we tried to 'give you a thank-you, 'rep' for your understanding, but
were not able to....\\GBY you both and we'll just give you both a hug!!!
:rolleyes::)
 

blue_ladybug

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No worries, laura.. I don't put any stock into those with no MD after their names. Especially those who can't give me assurances that what they're recommending won't harm me..
 

JosephsDreams

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There's nothing wrong with milk. They have recently found out that cows that are grass fed and pasture raised is a lot healthy than the conventional fed. The meats in grass fed animals has high amount of omega 3's that help prevent clog arteries and other health problems. What ever the way God had intended for them to eat, that researchers are now knowing that it is healthier for them and us.

Why Grassfed Animal Products Are Better For You Why Grassfed Animal Products Are Better




Pasture-raised animal products like grass-fed beef, bison, buffalo or lamb, pasture-raised organic pork, and raw cheese from grass fed cows, though not yet as easily available in the market as their feedlot-raised counterparts, are becoming popular because of the apparent health benefits that they deliver. One other food product that is slowly catching the attention of health conscious individuals is grass-fed butter. Hailed for its delectably rich flavor, grass-fed butter, too, has a lot to boast in the nutrient and micronutrient department. http://superhumancoach.com/benefits-of-organic-grass-fed-butter/

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JosephsDreams

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That is a unbiased article.
And I did say in a previous post that raw milk is healthier then pasteurized milk.
But like with any food one must weigh the benefits and the adverse effects.
The problem with milk is that it has more negatives then positives.
First, cows milk is designed for cows, not humans. Cows weigh over a thousand pounds, humans do not. The growth factors in cows milk are dangerous to humans health over time. God designed us to drink milk from the mother for a period of time, and that is it. Why are we trying to do better then God/ We can't. But the hormones and protein in cows milk over time lead to allergies, and heart problems, digestive issues, and can even be a carcinogen.
Cows milk does not strengthen the immune system, as the article states, it weakens it. All animal products have a advrese effect on the white cell count and the immune system.
The article brags about protein in cows milk, but to much animal protein is one of the factors that are aging people at a faster rate.
The article talks about amino acids in cows milk, but why do we need cows milk for them There are many healthier alternatives
There are so many good plant based sources of amino acids, sources that have none of the unfortunate side effects of cows milk, that no one needs to ingest cows milk.
Need Protein? Here are 9 Amino Acids Found Abundantly in Plants | One Green Planet
I could go on. But the article brags about cows milk having vitamins, fats, and minerals and enzymes (btw, these enzymes are actually not compatible to our physiology, in most cases) . It is all true, but where back to where it is a food that is wrecks havoc on our hormone balance, our immune system, our digestive system, our heart health, and is acidic to our body.
So with so many other readily available plant sources, that are cheaper, and healthier, more easily digested, why drink milk?
And plant products are alkaline, not acidic -which is a factor in disease, cows milk throws the body off balance, and contributes to inflammation and oxidation.
So why do we need it?
Lets see, cancer, heart disease, hardening of arteries, arthritis, none loss, mineral deficiency, digestive issues, allergies.
Does milk still sound healthy?
Last, milk is extremely acidic. And guess what part of the body is extremely alkaline, you got it, the mineral calcium?
So milk actually is a factor in bone loss. It causes the body t leech calcium from the bones to help keep the PH balance which milk throws off.
Milk, it does a body no good.
 

JosephsDreams

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I do. I thank God for making the cow that produced the milk, that He designed, that strengthened his bones.
I do concede, that possibly, for a short period of time, maybe, it is possible that milk can be a benefit for something like what happened to your dad, but even then, that is not a given, But for those few months when he was healing, if he had no viable healthier alternatives, then maybe it was a God send. But to ingest it for long periods of time, for anyone, especially for kids, it is a damaging to health.