Where Is Mother Teresa Now?

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Teresa complained in her private letters of feeling abandoned by Christ, and
in point of fact was unsure that a God actually exists out there.

Well; according to the Holy Bible-- which Roman Catholicism holds in very
high regard --God has a supernatural way of assuring His own that He does
in fact exist and that they are not abandoned.

†. Rom 8:16 . .The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are
children of God,

The Greek word for "bears witness" means to corroborate; which Webster's
defines as: to support with evidence.

It is possible to short circuit the Spirit's witness.

†. 1Ths 5:19 . . Do not quench the Spirit.

How does one quench the Spirit? Well . . the better question is: How did the
most dedicated Catholic nun the twentieth century every produced manage
to quench Him? If the most pious role model in the modern Catholic world
could quench God's Spirit for virtually five decades, then where does that
leave John Q and Jane Doe pew warmer?

Here's an item of interest that isn't talked about much.

†. Rom 8:15 . . For you have not received a spirit of slavery again to fear;
but you have received a spirit of adoption, whereby we call out: Abba,
Father!

Abba is an Aramaic word. It refers to one's male parent but not as an
ordinary noun. It's a vocative.

For example: When my son points me out to one of his friends and says
"That's my dad over there." he's not using dad as a vocative. But when he
shouts "Hey dad, I'm over here!" then he's using dad to get my attention.
That's a vocative.

Rom 8:15 is saying that the spirit of adoption compels "we" to call out to a
father rather than a mother. So then, people who feel compelled to call out
to Jesus' mom instead of his Father, are not the Father's children because
the spirit of adoption would never compel them to do that.

The spirit of adoption, as it turns out, is the spirit of God's son.

†. Gal 4:6 . . As proof that you are children, God sent the spirit of His son
into our hearts, crying out: Abba, Father!

The spirit of His son compels the children to pray to Jesus' Father, never to
his mother because Jesus never prayed to his mother. So then, people
compelled by the spirit of His son will address their prayers to Jesus' Father
same as he did.

What does that tell us about Mother Teresa and her devotion to Jesus'
mother? Duh. She did not have the spirit of His son in her heart; and she
knew it too.

"The place of God in my soul is blank-- There is no God in me-- He is not
there-- God does not want me"

People lacking the spirit of His son are excluded from His son's sheep.

†. Rom 8:9 . . If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not
belong to Christ.

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Catholics "work" for their Salvation. Catholicism teaches one cannot know IF they have done enough "works" to earn salvation till after they die.

How can Catholics be Christian if they reject what God says in the Scriptures?

Its the Scriptures from God that is our ultimate source of authority on the Truth from God, not the popes and not the Catholic Church.

This is the main problem with the Catholics. They actually put the teachings and doctrines of the Catholic Church above the Inspired Scriptures from God!

Mother Teresa is a good example of a Catholic trying to earn their Salvation by "works".
 

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Teresa referred to Jesus as her husband; viz: her spouse. So her association
with Christ was on a very different level than that of John Q and Jane Doe
pew warmer.

†. Gen 2:18 . .The Lord God said: It is not good for the man to be alone. I
will make a suitable partner for him.

The Hebrew word for "partner" indicates something much more than a
buddy. It indicates standing together shoulder to shoulder as a unified team
in a common cause.

Married women have a duty to look after their husband's best interests.

†. Gen 3:16 . . he shall be your master.

In other words: wives are not supposed to be independent agents. What this
means is: Teresa had no God-given right to forge ahead in India by herself
sans Christ's oversight. As soon as she came to the realization that he and
she had parted ways; the smart thing would have been for her to stop what
she was doing and go back to where they left off.

†. 1John 1:6 . . If we say we have fellowship with him while we continue to
walk in darkness, we lie and do not act in truth.

Well; Teresa knew in her own heart that she and Christ were out of
fellowship. In point of fact, her husband was nowhere to be found; and she
was very disturbed by his absence.

The conclusion to draw from Christ's absence is very straightforward:
according to 1John 1:6 Teresa continued to walk in darkness and did not act
in truth. For example:

Whenever Jesus sent out his missionaries, it was with the understanding
that they not only practice medicine, but that they also proselytize (Luke
9:2) which is something Teresa shunned in order to avoid being evicted from
India. As a result, she utterly failed to look after her husband's primary
interest.

†. Matt 28:19-20 . . Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them
in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching
them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you

Proselytizing is in that mandate not once, but twice.

Now get this; and don't block it out. There is cause and effect in that
passage: action and reaction. If Jesus' missionaries would obey him, and
teach all nations to observe all things whatsoever he commanded them, then
what would result?

†. Matt 28:20 . . and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the
age.

Was Jesus with Teresa always? No; and his absence caused her five decades
of darkness and anguish. Had she complied with her avowed husband's
wishes, Teresa's association with him would have been greatly improved.

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Mother Teresa like all Catholics are in Purgatory desperately trying to "Work" for the Salvation. Unfortunately all those in Purgatory are lost and never will enter into Heaven.
 
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Catholics "work" for their Salvation. Catholicism teaches one cannot know IF they have done enough "works" to earn salvation till after they die.

How can Catholics be Christian if they reject what God says in the Scriptures?

Its the Scriptures from God that is our ultimate source of authority on the Truth from God, not the popes and not the Catholic Church.

This is the main problem with the Catholics. They actually put the teachings and doctrines of the Catholic Church above the Inspired Scriptures from God!

Mother Teresa is a good example of a Catholic trying to earn their Salvation by "works".
i dont know what planet you been on but this is an issue with every Christian church.
 

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Teresa and her sisters performed rather unorthodox baptisms. They weren't
done by immersion, nor pouring, nor sprinkling; but by placing wet cloths
upon the foreheads of recipients.

However, because of India's federal law prohibiting proselytizing in Teresa's
day; her baptisms were virtually blind because the recipient of the rite had
only to express a wish to be a Christian; vz: they were baptized without
being adequately evangelized first.

†. Mark 16:15-16 . . He said to them: Go into the whole world and proclaim
the gospel to every creature. Whoever believes and is baptized will be
saved; whoever does not believe will be condemned.

In other words; baptism is for believers; not for unbelievers; and it is
impossible for pagans to believe information about which they are ignorant.

Belief in the gospel is essential. In point of fact a baptism that lacks belief is
a baptism unto hell. An unbelieving baptism leaves its recipient abiding in a
state of death.

†. John 5:24 . . I assure you, those who listen to my message, and believe
in God who sent me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for
their sins, but they have already passed from death into life.

Without believing the gospel, it is impossible to be sealed unto redemption
by God's Spirit.

†. Eph 1:13-14 . . In him you also trusted, after you heard the word of
truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were
sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our
inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise
of his glory.

Preaching and believing aren't optional; no, they're essential.

†. 1Cor 1:2 . . It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them
that believe.

According to Christ's testimony, as an expert witness in all matters
pertaining to faith; unbelievers are already damned right now, even before
they cross over to the other side.

†. John 3:18 . . He who believes in him is not condemned; but he who does
not believe is condemned already.

In other words; there's no middle ground: condemned is the default in the
absence of believing . Bottom line: unbelievers go to hell no matter how
many times they're baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy
Ghost.

In reading Teresa's private letters, I discovered that her superiors' approval
of the operation in India was contingent upon her consent to do the work of
an evangelical. So then, she not only failed to comply with Christ's
directives, but she also failed to comply with her superiors' wishes. What it
all boils down to is: Teresa's operation in India was merely a charity little
different than those of World Vision, CARE, and Global Impact; rather than a
conscientious evangelistic outreach.

God, out of unsolicited and undeserved kindness and compassion, voluntarily
went through all the emotional grief, and to all the trouble, of subjecting His
own precious next of kin to indignities and painful death to ransom men's
souls from the wrath of God.

†. John 3:14-17 . . And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert, so
must the Son of Man be lifted up, so that everyone who believes in him may
have eternal life. For God so loved the world that he gave His only son, so
that everyone who believes in him might not perish but might have eternal
life. For God did not send His son into the world to condemn the world, but
that the world might be saved through him.

Hindu pagans desperately need to have that passage fully explained; and
the Sisters of Charity were not allowed to do so. Is it any wonder then why
Christ would abandon Ms. Bojaxhiu for all those five decades? Duh. She was
quite useless for his purposes.

FYI: An excellent New Testament example of preaching, believing, and baptizing
is located at Acts 8:26-38.

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What a twisted way to begin a Bible study--by attempting to determine what is God's to determine.
 
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well I think it's prob more like a Catholic bashing thread....some folks like to put other beliefs on the menu in order to satisfy their need to 'feel safe'....you know, so and so is so much worse than I am, I must be ok

I had an aunt like that...she loved to feel superior by pointing out everyone's else's 'sins'...the only way she could smell like a rose, was to pour skunk oil on everyone else LOL!
 
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well I think it's prob more like a Catholic bashing thread....some folks like to put other beliefs on the menu in order to satisfy their need to 'feel safe'....you know, so and so is so much worse than I am, I must be ok

I had an aunt like that...she loved to feel superior by pointing out everyone's else's 'sins'...the only way she could smell like a rose, was to pour skunk oil on everyone else LOL!
I can see what you are saying and I think that this thread was a disaster at the onset BUT I hardly call pointing out mans traditions and downright heresy with the RC a bad thing
That can be done on one page not 15!! haha
I know that I am saved by imputed grace and I dont feel any safer pointing out infuted grace of the RC church. Its the heart behind the words I think. God looks at our intent. BTW, I didnt bother to read the 15 pages of what I will guess is just hateful talk. Its just not profitable for me or anyone else to jump into.Most catholics know what protestants think and most know what catholics think of protestants. So, yeah I guess at this point on page 16 its basically pouring stink oil!
 
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I can see what you are saying and I think that this thread was a disaster at the onset BUT I hardly call pointing out mans traditions and downright heresy with the RC a bad thing
That can be done on one page not 15!! haha
I know that I am saved by imputed grace and I dont feel any safer pointing out infuted grace of the RC church. Its the heart behind the words I think. God looks at our intent. BTW, I didnt bother to read the 15 pages of what I will guess is just hateful talk. Its just not profitable for me or anyone else to jump into.Most catholics know what protestants think and most know what catholics think of protestants. So, yeah I guess at this point on page 16 its basically pouring stink oil!
I have no prob with talking about the obvious extra-biblical leanings of Catholics, Protestants...whoever..it's the glee some seem to have while doing it

yeah...you don't wanna read the preceding 15 LOL!...you can read my posts though :cool:
 
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In the Scriptures Jesus pointed out the false teachings of the people.

Today people criticize those who point out the false teachings.

This shows how far down this country has fallen away from the Truth from God that we criticize those who try to bring the Truth to the World about false doctrines.
 
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In the Scriptures Jesus pointed out the false teachings of the people.

Today people criticize those who point out the false teachings.

This shows how far down this country has fallen away from the Truth from God that we criticize those who try to bring the Truth to the World about false doctrines.
This is an international website.

Are you willing to show me the Scriptures which tell of 'Jesus pointing out false teachings of the people'?
 

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Are you willing to show me the Scriptures which tell of 'Jesus pointing out false teachings of the people'?
"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'You shall not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.' But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell."

Jesus makes a number of such statements, pointing out their error, as He taught deeper into the law. Now maybe you do not equate error with false teaching, I don't know. But He was attempting to correct them, that is for sure.
 
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"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'You shall not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.' But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell."

Jesus makes a number of such statements, pointing out their error, as He taught deeper into the law. Now maybe you do not equate error with false teaching, I don't know. But He was attempting to correct them, that is for sure.
Hi Magenta! Glad to see we're on speaking terms again.

Can you show me what error Jesus was pointing out in this passage?

It looks to me like Jesus was not pointing at error, but enhancing the commandment--as with the rest of the passage:

27 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery.'"

- enhanced in verse 28 -

28 "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

So, prior to Jesus's words here in Matthew, we have this 'law' to not commit adultery. Adultery meant to 'have unlawful intercourse with another's wife'. Jesus takes the definition further and extends it to include 'looking at a woman lustfully'.

38 and 39 would be a great lesson-- for, I see so much mild vengeance here on CC.

38 "You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'

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39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
 
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This is an international website.
Are you willing to show me the Scriptures which tell of 'Jesus pointing out false teachings of the people'?


"He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do." Mark 7:6-8

How can someone worship the Lord if he holds to false doctrine and not truth?

"But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." John 4:23-24



 

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Hi Magenta! Glad to see we're on speaking terms again.

Can you show me what error Jesus was pointing out in this passage?

It looks to me like Jesus was not pointing at error, but enhancing the commandment--as with the rest of the passage:

27 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery.'"

- enhanced in verse 28 -

28 "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

So, prior to Jesus's words here in Matthew, we have this 'law' to not commit adultery. Adultery meant to 'have unlawful intercourse with another's wife'. Jesus takes the definition further and extends it to include 'looking at a woman lustfully'.

38 and 39 would be a great lesson-- for, I see so much mild vengeance here on CC.

38 "You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'

- Enter New Covenant -

39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
You may have noticed I simply left that other thread, and have not said anything to others there as well, so it was not just you, though you thinking you were above it all and in no need of correction for the things you said and did, did not help matters at all.

The error was thinking the law was fulfilled by the letter and not the spirit. Meaning, they looked at things of the flesh, the outward man, and considered washing their hands, for example, made them clean, or that not eating pork kept them clean. Jesus pointed out their error by illuminating the fact that it was not what one put in their mouth that defiled them, but what came out of their mouths, their very words. He also attempted to correct their error of believing that simply acting in a certain way was not all that was required, since one needed to purify their thoughts and inner self, their hearts. The ten commandments did cover coveting that which belonged to another. All women in those days belonged to another, so nobody can attempt to wiggle out of that one and say it could have meant something else. The original laws as given were added to greatly, to the point where they accused Jesus of breaking the Sabbath because He healed on that day. Will you tell me you think they were right to try to restrict Him in such a manner, and He was not trying to correct them? Clearly they were in error, and if they were not, then you call Jesus a sinner.
 
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You may have noticed I simply left that other thread, and have not said anything to others there as well, so it was not just you, though you thinking you were above it all and in no need of correction for the things you said and did, did not help matters at all.

The error was thinking the law was fulfilled by the letter and not the spirit. Meaning, they looked at things of the flesh, the outward man, and considered washing their hands, for example, made them clean, or that not eating pork kept them clean. Jesus pointed out their error by illuminating the fact that it was not what one put in their mouth that defiled them, but what came out of their mouths, their very words. He also attempted to correct their error of believing that simply acting in a certain way was not all that was required, since one needed to purify their thoughts and inner self, their hearts. The ten commandments did cover coveting that which belonged to another. All women in those days belonged to another, so nobody can attempt to wiggle out of that one and say it could have meant something else. The original laws as given were added to greatly, to the point where they accused Jesus of breaking the Sabbath because He healed on that day. Will you tell me you think they were right to try to restrict Him in such a manner, and He was not trying to correct them? Clearly they were in error, and if they were not, then you call Jesus a sinner.
Sorry for adding to your frustration last week.

Thanks for helping me see what you see.
 
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"He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do." Mark 7:6-8

How can someone worship the Lord if he holds to false doctrine and not truth?

"But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." John 4:23-24
I don't think that person can, do you?

"washing of pitcher's and cups" -- Do you know what this means?

One source (Matthew Henry's Commentary) says that the Pharisees used to wash their hands when they came in from the markets--cleansing their hands from 'ceremonial pollution' that they believed they might have encountered while out among the common people. They extended this practice to include 'washing of cups and pots' that might have been polluted by heathens. In other words, the Pharisees of Jesus's time did not want to touch that which had been touched by a sinner. Pretty sure Jesus touched sinners and healed them rather than treating them like lepers.

Edit: Also note, when Jesus realized the Pharisees were plotting to kill them, he moved away from them--distanced himself.
 
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Exodus 20:3,4

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“You shall have no other gods before me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

Statues of Mary is an image. Pictures of Mary are an image.

Catholics bow down to images of Mary. God says this is a sin.

 
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Exodus 20:3,4

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“You shall have no other gods before me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

Statues of Mary is an image. Pictures of Mary are an image.

Catholics bow down to images of Mary. God says this is a sin.

Do all Catholics worship idols? Are there any Catholics who do not worship idols?

What can be gained, learned, and/or understood here?