Womens Punishment ended?

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DiscipleDave

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*Yawn* Disciple Dave just doing his prophet thang. Again.
And this is a bad thing to you?

a preacher who preaches is that also bad to you?
a teacher who teaches is that also bad to you?
a healer that heals is that also bad to you?
a prophet that warns is that also bad to you? Apparently it is. But then again, what generation is this? The last days generation. Calling that which is good evil, Scriptures calls it.
Tell me, what evil have i said?
What untruth have i written?
Can you tell me one thing that i have written that is contrary to Scriptures? You can't, because they aren't.

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Ephesians 5:25 …24But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything. 25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her.
lol, that is so funny to me. i say the same exact thing, and even say Scriptures teach it, and stones are thrown, and i am attacked verbally.

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You haven't been here long enough to like or not like him. He's not here a whole lot, but when he is he meets out judgements like they're going out of style. Sure, God loves him. Doesn't mean I have to approve of his posts.
Should we Judge? Before responding to me personally, read the article and see where i stand on it before throwing false accusations. Thanks. To Judge or Not to Judge?

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And this is a bad thing to you?

a preacher who preaches is that also bad to you?
a teacher who teaches is that also bad to you?
a healer that heals is that also bad to you?
a prophet that warns is that also bad to you? Apparently it is. But then again, what generation is this? The last days generation. Calling that which is good evil, Scriptures calls it.
Tell me, what evil have i said?
What untruth have i written?
Can you tell me one thing that i have written that is contrary to Scriptures? You can't, because they aren't.

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Coming in just on page 11.

Here is the conundrum with those who feel they are called to warn people of coming judgement:

"When I bring an army against a country, the people of that land choose one of their own to be a watchman. When the watchman sees the enemy coming, he sounds the alarm to warn the people. Then if those who hear the alarm refuse to take action, it is their own fault if they die. They heard the alarm but ignored it, so the responsibility is theirs. If they had listened to the warning, they could have saved their lives. But if the watchman sees the enemy coming and doesn’t sound the alarm to warn the people, he is responsible for their captivity. They will die in their sins, but I will hold the watchman responsible for their deaths." (Ezekiel 33:2 - 6)

Thing is, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell when to warn people, it takes common sense. From what i see, this is a good time to preach repentance. These are dark days.
 

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Galatians 3:
27For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.


Sounds a little like equal footing for more than just women....something about we are all one in Christ Jesus? Flicks grain of sand your way....lol

PS: Like Phychomom I have a wonderful husband who loves me and I don't mind at all doing things for him. We have a happy home as one in Christ Jesus.
What is the deal with people thinking that one verse can negate or make void other verses? Is it not written ALL SCRIPTURE is inspired by God? one verse does not negate another inspired by God verse.

God told me one day in conversation. "If what you believe contradicts even one verse in Scriptures then what you believe is WRONG"

Know you not that it is only when ALL VERSES agree with each other that you might have a glimpse of the TRUTH? If what you believe to be TRUE, contradicts even one inspired by God verse, then what you believe is FALSE.

For example (please start a new thread if you want debate this) If you believe the thief on the cross when to Heaven the day that He died, contradicts other verses which plainly teach Jesus was in the heart of the Earth for the 3 days and 3 nights, NOT IN HEAVEN. Therefore that belief that the very same day Jesus was crucified He took the thief to Heaven on that day is a false belief, and if you teach that, it is a false doctrine.

For example if you believe Once Saved Always Saved, yet there are verses which plainly teach your name can be blotted out of the Book of Life. PROVES that Once Saved Always Saved can't possibly be correct, because that belief contradicts other verses in Scriptures.

Again, this is what God says (not me) "If what you believe contradicts even one verse in Scriptures than what you believe is WRONG" Oh only if this generation would believe His Words, then there would be hardly any false doctrines out there today to deceive the innocent.

Do you believe it is not possible to cease from sin? That belief contradicts Scriptures, and therefore is a false belief. Jesus told a man and a woman to go and sin no more, Did He tell them to do something that was impossible to do? Is it not written "Awake to righteousness and sin not"? Does the Bible call those who can't cease from sin "Cursed Children"? HUNDREDS of verses teach you can cease from sin.

If what you believe contradicts even one verse in Scriptures, then your belief is WRONG, that is the TRUTH, and that is what God told me. So would it not behoove you to hearken to that? No, not this generation, this generation if a verse contradicts their belief, that only means they have to make void the verse, or interpret it to mean something other that what it says, or ignore that verse. satan will go out of his way for you not to discard what you believe to be the truth, even though one or two verses seem to contradict that belief. But Lo, i have told you the TRUTH, and the TRUTH comes from God.

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i commend you, for answering the question that i presented in the OP. i just hoped this thread would have stayed on coarse.



Such is the generation we live in. It is hard for the rich to enter into Heaven, so let both husband and wife work making it harder to get into Heaven, if the Scriptures are to be believed.

If the poor are Blessed, would it not be better to choose to be poor and Blessed than to be rich and harder to get to Heaven?



This is not how God set it up, This is how man sets it up, Therefore many marriages are NOT Blessed by God and end in divorce.

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All are blessed who love the Lord with all their heart their minds and their souls.
It is a sin to allow money to be an idol.It is NOT a sin to be rich. God appoints whom he chooses to be rich because he knows they can stay grounded IN HIM. Perhaps you cannot? Perhaps you choose to be poor because you have confidence issues? Ive met many a poor man that has so many excuses as to why he is unsuccessful. The truth is, they are weak.

Here again you misquote scripture! Its not a sin to be rich. It is a sin to love money.
The love of money is the root of evil.


Some poor people dont eat because they dont work hard. Are they blessed? What does God say about that? My oh my!


Blessed are the meek(in spirit). This isnt saying weak. It is saying that those who HUMBLE. You may want to take that scripture to heart . Your attitude stinks of haughtiness and judgement. You sound more like a confused demon who came to condemn rather than to reason.


Read Proverbs 31. She is a successful woman in many ways and not just at domestic chores:)
The Wife of Noble Character

10 A wife of noble character who can find? She is worth far more than rubies.
11 Her husband has full confidence in her and lacks nothing of value.
12 She brings him good, not harm, all the days of her life.
13 She selects wool and flax and works with eager hands.
14 She is like the merchant ships, bringing her food from afar.
15 She gets up while it is still night; she provides food for her family and portions for her female servants.
16 She considers a field and buys it; out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.

17 She sets about her work vigorously; her arms are strong for her tasks.
18 She sees that her trading is profitable, and her lamp does not go out at night.

19 In her hand she holds the distaff and grasps the spindle with her fingers.
20 She opens her arms to the poor and extends her hands to the needy.
21 When it snows, she has no fear for her household; for all of them are clothed in scarlet.
22 She makes coverings for her bed; she is clothed in fine linen and purple.

23 Her husband is respected at the city gate, where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.
24 She makes linen garments and sells them, and supplies the merchants with sashes.

25 She is clothed with strength and dignity; she can laugh at the days to come.
26 She speaks with wisdom, and faithful instruction is on her tongue.
27 She watches over the affairs of her household and does not eat the bread of idleness.
28 Her children arise and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her:
29 “Many women do noble things, but you surpass them all.”
30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting; but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised.
31 Honor her for all that her hands have done, and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.
 

DiscipleDave

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the OP hasn't returned to his thread.

i'm not familiar with his posts, but is this what he usually does?

either way, i'm glad Jesus has set me free :D
"What he usually does"? Is it not common to start a thread by asking a question they would like answered? It is not my fault that others have turned it into a debate, a fight, all about everything except to answer the question of the OP.

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All are blessed who love the Lord with all their heart their minds and their souls.
It is a sin to allow money to be an idol.It is NOT a sin to be rich. God appoints whom he chooses to be rich because he knows they can stay grounded IN HIM. Perhaps you cannot? Perhaps you choose to be poor because you have confidence issues? Ive met many a poor man that has so many excuses as to why he is unsuccessful. The truth is, they are weak.

Here again you misquote scripture! Its not a sin to be rich. It is a sin to love money.
The love of money is the root of evil.


Some poor people dont eat because they dont work hard. Are they blessed? What does God say about that? My oh my!


Blessed are the meek(in spirit). This isnt saying weak. It is saying that those who HUMBLE. You may want to take that scripture to heart . Your attitude stinks of haughtiness and judgement. You sound more like a confused demon who came to condemn rather than to reason.


Read Proverbs 31. She is a successful woman in many ways and not just at domestic chores:)
The Wife of Noble Character

10 A wife of noble character who can find? She is worth far more than rubies.
11 Her husband has full confidence in her and lacks nothing of value.
12 She brings him good, not harm, all the days of her life.
13 She selects wool and flax and works with eager hands.
14 She is like the merchant ships, bringing her food from afar.
15 She gets up while it is still night; she provides food for her family and portions for her female servants.
16 She considers a field and buys it; out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.

17 She sets about her work vigorously; her arms are strong for her tasks.
18 She sees that her trading is profitable, and her lamp does not go out at night.

19 In her hand she holds the distaff and grasps the spindle with her fingers.
20 She opens her arms to the poor and extends her hands to the needy.
21 When it snows, she has no fear for her household; for all of them are clothed in scarlet.
22 She makes coverings for her bed; she is clothed in fine linen and purple.

23 Her husband is respected at the city gate, where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.
24 She makes linen garments and sells them, and supplies the merchants with sashes.

25 She is clothed with strength and dignity; she can laugh at the days to come.
26 She speaks with wisdom, and faithful instruction is on her tongue.
27 She watches over the affairs of her household and does not eat the bread of idleness.
28 Her children arise and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her:
29 “Many women do noble things, but you surpass them all.”
30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting; but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised.
31 Honor her for all that her hands have done, and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.
What do you get out of this? I see it as metaphorical for a wife of nobel character..

Luke 18

22Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
23And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich. 24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 26And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? 27And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God. 28Then Peter said, Lo, we have left all, and followed thee. 29And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or parents, or brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God's sake, 30Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting.

What do you get out of what Jesus said here?
 
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“Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves. You can identify them by their fruit, that is, by the way they act…. A good tree produces good fruit, and a bad tree produces bad fruit. A good tree can’t produce bad fruit, and a bad tree can’t produce good fruit…. Yes, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit, so you can identify people by their actions.”
 
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It is NOT metaphorical
Ok... What is Jesus saying in Luke 18? He's saying it's hard for a rich man to get to heaven, but you say it's ok being rich isn't a problem.. Who's right, you or Jesus?
 
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Should we Judge? Before responding to me personally, read the article and see where i stand on it before throwing false accusations. Thanks. To Judge or Not to Judge?

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You judge righteously and not willy nilly on the web to people whom you do not know well enough to judge! And as far as this subject matter is concerned,you certainly do not know peoples lives well enough to judge
 
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Ok... What is Jesus saying in Luke 18? He's saying it's hard for a rich man to get to heaven, but you say it's ok being rich isn't a problem.. Who's right, you or Jesus?
He didnt say all rich men dont get into heaven! What he is saying here is that rich men trust in their own selves and their wealth. They dont come to Christ because they have another god. This scripture is not aimed at men and women who make Christ their LORD. Poor people can be guilty of idolatry as well.
God appoints whom he will to be rich. He knows who can stay faithful to him
 

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Forgive me if you heard me tell this before, but my marriage was very volatile for the 1st dozen yrs or so. We had some very nasty, hurtful verbal arguments. If I chose to pick a few to relate to you, you might say "yeah Ed, you were in the right".

I have come to realize, after praying to the Lord, (should have been my 1st step waaay before) that the problem with our relationship was ME NOT HER. Right or wrong was irrelavent on a particular issue.

The question was, was I loving my wife in the way that the Lord wanted me to, and clearly I wasn't. Also, any faults she may have the LORD will deal with NOT me.

I can tell you that our marriage, and love for each other has gotten stronger each passing day The thought of submission NEVER enters the equation. Men, do YOUR part. Let the Lord work on your wives part.

God bless
That is wonderful to hear. God Bless you. It is the same advice i give to married couples in counseling. i would tell the wife, regardless what your husband is or isn't doing, Do everything to please God. i would tell the husband, regardless what your wife is or isn't doing, Do everything to please God. i teach against 50/50 relationships, that is to say those relationships lean toward if my spouse does this, then i will do that type of relationship. i teach in counseling 100/100. You do everything to please God, you be the wife or the husband that God wants you to be, regardless what your spouse is doing or not doing. This is the secret to a marriage that God will Bless and prosper (NOT monetary prosper, but happiness prosper)

Wives are not to submit to their husbands because that is what they husband wants, wives are to submit to their husbands because that is what Scriptures teach for wives to do.

Husband are not to love their wives because they LOVE them back, husbands are to Love their wives because that is what Scriptures teach for husbands to do.

Most of the time in counseling sessions it always ends up with He don't _________ She don't _____. or He did _______ She did ________. Most of the time i would respond "i don't care what your spouse is or isn't doing, where is your walk with God?" Often, to no avail, people look to their spouse to make them happy, if they don't, then they blame their spouse for not being happy. They all are looking to the wrong place to be happy. Look to God first then all things shall be added unto them. Many couples have many problems and most of the time they don't even pray or go to Church, nothing, and then wander why their marriage is going down the toilet.

Marriages of the world are designed to FAIL, throw in the towel, give up, get a divorce.
Marriages set up by God according to His Word, will be Blessed and Happy and Lasting.

God Bless you PennEd for learning the TRUTH in this matter, and now your marriage is set up on solid stone, and not sand.

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Ok... What is Jesus saying in Luke 18? He's saying it's hard for a rich man to get to heaven, but you say it's ok being rich isn't a problem.. Who's right, you or Jesus?
The love of money is the root of all evil
 
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He didnt say all rich men dont get into heaven! What he is saying here is that rich men trust in their own selves and their wealth. They dont come to Christ because they have another god. This scripture is not aimed at men and women who make Christ their LORD. Poor people can be guilty of idolatry as well.
God appoints whom he will to be rich. He knows who can stay faithful to him
it's exactly what he's doing.. He said DROP ALL and follow me, guy couldn't do it, Peter said " Lo, we have left ALL and followed thee ". Please use scripture in its context and show me where your saying this is only for so and so.
 
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That is wonderful to hear. God Bless you. It is the same advice i give to married couples in counseling. i would tell the wife, regardless what your husband is or isn't doing, Do everything to please God. i would tell the husband, regardless what your wife is or isn't doing, Do everything to please God. i teach against 50/50 relationships, that is to say those relationships lean toward if my spouse does this, then i will do that type of relationship. i teach in counseling 100/100. You do everything to please God, you be the wife or the husband that God wants you to be, regardless what your spouse is doing or not doing. This is the secret to a marriage that God will Bless and prosper (NOT monetary prosper, but happiness prosper)

Wives are not to submit to their husbands because that is what they husband wants, wives are to submit to their husbands because that is what Scriptures teach for wives to do.

Husband are not to love their wives because they LOVE them back, husbands are to Love their wives because that is what Scriptures teach for husbands to do.

Most of the time in counseling sessions it always ends up with He don't _________ She don't _____. or He did _______ She did ________. Most of the time i would respond "i don't care what your spouse is or isn't doing, where is your walk with God?" Often, to no avail, people look to their spouse to make them happy, if they don't, then they blame their spouse for not being happy. They all are looking to the wrong place to be happy. Look to God first then all things shall be added unto them. Many couples have many problems and most of the time they don't even pray or go to Church, nothing, and then wander why their marriage is going down the toilet.

Marriages of the world are designed to FAIL, throw in the towel, give up, get a divorce.
Marriages set up by God according to His Word, will be Blessed and Happy and Lasting.

God Bless you PennEd for learning the TRUTH in this matter, and now your marriage is set up on solid stone, and not sand.

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Do you have a successful marriage as a testimony?
I dont think Penned was agreeing with you btw...lol
 

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i find it interesting that those who start threads like these talk about the "responsibilities" of a wife and the "rights" of the husband,

but they never talk about the opposite.
i am the one who started this thread, and not one time did i talk about responsibilities of the wife or the rights of the husband. I find it interesting that people comment on a thread that they are not fully aware of what has been said or not said in that thread.

Now what i did do, is respond to people when they addressed me, even if it was off topic of the OP that i started, maybe you are reading something that i said in response to another, then falsely assume that i am doing what you accuse me of.
But i love you and forgive you.

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