Womens Punishment ended?
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I know the Word, doesn't matter when I got saved right now, if you cared, you would've asked before this conversing. You think your superior, and I see you as quite rude. I won't let you sit here, and preach another gospel without my interruption. I won't argue with you either, I'll let His Word have the final say LUKE 18, where Jesus Himself explains it well.
Of a Truth, i am more happier now than i have ever been in all my years of marriage. i am married to Jesus, and i would now have it no other way. i sing praises to God all day long.
When i was married it seemed we fought all the time. i would be talking with a person online because he is wanting to kill himself. my wife would come in, and say, i am going for a walk will you go with me, she expected me to stop what i was doing jump up and go, but i would try to explain to her, that this person is wanting to kill himself i have to to try to talk him out of it, she would respond "whatever" and leave. This is one of hundreds of examples. We would have extra money, i would want to give it to the poor, to the needy, she would get mad because she wanted to spend it some other way, always about US, never about helping others. i would get a bonus at work, and have enough to take my wife and two others on a cruise. She would get upset that i even thought about asking others to go with us, she would say "Why can't it just be me and you?" i would say, it can be, i just thought since we had the money it would be a Godly thing to take another couple who can't afford it to go with us" Anyways, i was constantly torn between pleasing God and pleasing wife. Now all i have to do is please God, and i have never been more happy in my life.
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When i was married it seemed we fought all the time. i would be talking with a person online because he is wanting to kill himself. my wife would come in, and say, i am going for a walk will you go with me, she expected me to stop what i was doing jump up and go, but i would try to explain to her, that this person is wanting to kill himself i have to to try to talk him out of it, she would respond "whatever" and leave. This is one of hundreds of examples. We would have extra money, i would want to give it to the poor, to the needy, she would get mad because she wanted to spend it some other way, always about US, never about helping others. i would get a bonus at work, and have enough to take my wife and two others on a cruise. She would get upset that i even thought about asking others to go with us, she would say "Why can't it just be me and you?" i would say, it can be, i just thought since we had the money it would be a Godly thing to take another couple who can't afford it to go with us" Anyways, i was constantly torn between pleasing God and pleasing wife. Now all i have to do is please God, and i have never been more happy in my life.
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Would someone be so kind to show me in Scriptures where the punishment given to women by GOD has ended?
Gen_3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
This is a Punishment That God gave to women for eating of the forbidden fruit.
So then my question is, WHO changed it? Who said that women are equal with men? Who said the husband WILL NOT rule over them? Who said the punishment has ended for women?
YOU say their punishment has ended. But it is still present to this very day. Child birth is still painful, that did not cease at the cross. The ground is still cursed, that did not cease at the cross. Just because you call their punishment a curse does not make it so.
i have no clue what you are saying here. Do you think i have some unforgiveness issues? How so? Do you think i have been hurt by women? Why do you think that?
In Heaven there is no male or female, but you freely choose what image you will be, daily if that is what you desire. If you choose to be in the image of the Lord, you will be human looking.
This is True.
Women are NEVER to submit to their husband because their husband says so, they are submit to their husbands because that is what the Word of God teaches them to do. Also a husband who is Christ-like would not ask their wife to submit to them
Agreed.
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And yet the ground is still cursed. and women still suffer the punishment of pain during child birth. How are you saying it has been fixed? These things still continue to this very day, they have not ended nor ceased. Therefore also what the Word of God teaches that a part of the woman's punishment would be that her husband shall rule over her is still in force to this very day, just as the other parts of the punishment given to man and woman are still in force today. That is why i was asking in the OP, where in Scriptures does it say that part of the punishment given to women by God has ended? What i hear is all kinds of beliefs and the such, accusations, etc.. but still see no Scriptures which teach that part of the punishment given to women by God has ended. If then it has not ended, it is still in force to this very day, unless it has ended, and if it has, please show me Scriptures which teach that it has ended.
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No, I really do want to know. Why is it a secret? I am not trying to be rude. I am bringing forth scripture in context. You are not. That doesnt make me superior at least I dont think I am anyways. I do know wrong interpretation when I see it though. I can rightly divide the word of God.
Extend charity and plz tell me the year you were reborn again and how long you have studied the word.
Extend charity and plz tell me the year you were reborn again and how long you have studied the word.
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silly tintin!!!! lol
will the OP reply to this thread? i'm sure he's reading all these posts, but i could be wrong.
will the OP reply to this thread? i'm sure he's reading all these posts, but i could be wrong.
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Then it is possible that you did not understand the point of it. i have to submit to my Boss. A wife has to submit to her husband according to Scriptures. Do you not see the comparison there? Is the Boss better than me? NO. is the Husband better than the wife? NO. Do you see the comparison there? If you would like, send me an email, and i will try to better understand how the two situation are similar in many ways.
Do you not see your error, you obeyed for the wrong reasons. If you were to have obeyed because that is what God wanted you to do, then God would have Blessed your marriage. But if you obeyed him for some other reason, then it is bound to fail.
This is EXACTLY what independent women convince themselves is True. It would seem only logical that a Godly man would want to Godly wife. Likewise a Godly Wife would want a Godly husband. An independent man or an independent woman is not What God wants at all, for either one of them in a marriage. God wants them to depend on each other. To be independant is to count on and rely only on self.
definition of independent
not influenced or controlled by others in matters of opinion, conduct, etc.; thinking or acting for oneself: an independent thinker.
2. not subject to another's authority or jurisdiction; autonomous; free: an independent businessman.
3. not influenced by the thought or action of others: independent research.
4. not dependent; not depending or contingent upon something else for existence, operation, etc.
5. not relying on another or others for aid or support.
6. rejecting others' aid or support; refusing to be under obligation to others.
Does that sound like a marriage?
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Do you not see your error, you obeyed for the wrong reasons. If you were to have obeyed because that is what God wanted you to do, then God would have Blessed your marriage. But if you obeyed him for some other reason, then it is bound to fail.
This is EXACTLY what independent women convince themselves is True. It would seem only logical that a Godly man would want to Godly wife. Likewise a Godly Wife would want a Godly husband. An independent man or an independent woman is not What God wants at all, for either one of them in a marriage. God wants them to depend on each other. To be independant is to count on and rely only on self.
definition of independent
not influenced or controlled by others in matters of opinion, conduct, etc.; thinking or acting for oneself: an independent thinker.
2. not subject to another's authority or jurisdiction; autonomous; free: an independent businessman.
3. not influenced by the thought or action of others: independent research.
4. not dependent; not depending or contingent upon something else for existence, operation, etc.
5. not relying on another or others for aid or support.
6. rejecting others' aid or support; refusing to be under obligation to others.
Does that sound like a marriage?
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Would someone be so kind to show me in Scriptures where the punishment given to women by GOD has ended?
Gen_3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
This is a Punishment That God gave to women for eating of the forbidden fruit.
So then my question is, WHO changed it? Who said that women are equal with men? Who said the husband WILL NOT rule over them? Who said the punishment has ended for women?
So go ahead and call me male chauvinist, or a chauvinistic pig, or whatever else you want to call me to make yourself feel better, but it will not change the TRUTH of God. Woe to this generation for the women have become men, and the men have become women.
IF God said Husband will rule over the wife. Satan teaches "NOT SO" Women are equal to men. Satan will teach contrary to what God teaches. If God says "Wives obey your husband in everything". satan will teach contrary "Wives you do not have to obey your husbands" Now in this wicked (last days generation) Women wear the pants and men just do whatever their wives say to do "or else" satan has turned this world around, and now women rule over their husbands.
But now you have NO excuses. i have told you the TRUTH, if you do not live by what the Scriptures teach, then you are living by what satan teaches. Sugar coat it all you want to, but those who continue to NOT live in the Word of God, will NOT be taken up with Him when He returns. You have been warned.
Let the stone throwing begin.
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i think you failed to understand the point, child birth pains has not ceased, it is still a punishment that goes on to this very day, as you wife will surely know soon. Other people are saying it has changed, that somehow the punishment has ceased, no longer applies, or saying that Jesus became the curse for us at the cross, calling the punishment given to Adam and Eve a Curse, which it was not a curse but a punishment. So if you would like to inform me about God changing the pain in childbirth then by all means do so, but as i said, i am not the one saying it has changed.
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Here is an explanation. It is a long version with all the scriptures and explanations to go with. It is explaining in full what I have been saying.Does Jesus Expect His Followers to Give Up All of Their Possessions? | Questions.org
According to man there are many reason to divorce your spouse. But according to the Word of God there is only ONE reason to divorce your spouse, sexual immorality.
That is not saying a wife has to live with an abusive husband that is beating her or the such, she can most certainly get out that situation if she is able to, she does not have to live in that situation or subject her children to that situation. Nowhere in Scriptures does it teach if you are married you HAVE to live in the same house. The only thing i teach, and the Word of God does too, is there is only ONE reason to get a divorce, and that is sexual immorality. NOT verbal abuse, NOT physical abuse (let the stones throwing begin on that one)
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That is not saying a wife has to live with an abusive husband that is beating her or the such, she can most certainly get out that situation if she is able to, she does not have to live in that situation or subject her children to that situation. Nowhere in Scriptures does it teach if you are married you HAVE to live in the same house. The only thing i teach, and the Word of God does too, is there is only ONE reason to get a divorce, and that is sexual immorality. NOT verbal abuse, NOT physical abuse (let the stones throwing begin on that one)
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I will take Gods word over your commentaries but thanks anyway, at least this didn't come off nasty. Still, we have to live, I understand that and I believe everything in balance. I have given up everything though, there's nothing I care about more then Christ, then my family and others. I'll let Jesus decide on what I have and when, I don't care about it.. at all. Any of my things can burn right now, and I'd say, well praise God... and I mean just that.
so do you think it's more important to get rich, be rich, or help plant seeds for Gods Kingdom?
so do you think it's more important to get rich, be rich, or help plant seeds for Gods Kingdom?