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Womens Punishment ended?
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Okay women? The bible is clear that women should obey there husbands and in fact this was a common vow at the wedding. However man is to love his wife as Christ loves the church. That's a whole lot of love. Let the man lead and let the wife give suttle advice. Sarah said to Abraham put out the bond women and her child and God said listen to your wife. Amen
And is it Godly to take thought? Think the worse instead of the better?
Correction, i don't think i am, i know i am. There is a difference.
lol i have read the entire Bible over 90 times in my life. Listen to it on my mp3 player daily, and you say i don't know the Bible. Most kids their Mother read them kid books. My Mom read the Bible to me, even when i was in her womb. My Mom was called to be a Nun, and then she fell in love with my Dad, she felt so bad about not becoming a Nun, she prayed to God that she would dedicate her firstborn son to God. And here i am. i have had conversations with God. Had many Dreams of the Future. Had many visions of the Future, Spoke with Angels of God, and i am now living a life free of all sinning, because Jesus Christ lives in me, and He is my Strength and Power against every single temptations that comes my way.
Is it Godly to accuse another without giving the proof of your accusations? You accuse me of contradicting the Bible, yet do not give one example of this to back up your false accusation against a servant of God. If then YOU claim that i teach thing contrary to Scriptures then reveal it. Do you know why i know you can't reveal it, nor will you reveal it. Because what God told me, and i teach, is what the Word of God teaches also. But if you think you can do it, and not be a false accuser of the brethren, then show anywhere at all where i have taught something contrary to Scriptures. The Truth is, what i teach is contrary to what YOU believe is the TRUTH, and therefore YOU THINK i teach things contrary to Scriptures. But let us see if you will do the Godly thing and back up your accusation against me, saying i teach things contrary to the Scriptures. Show it.
Do you not know who the wolves are. Wolves obey satan (knowingly and willingly commit sin) all the while claiming that Jesus lives in them, that Jesus is their Master and Savior, yet they knowingly and willingly obey His enemy and commit sin, because they LOVE to sin, else they would cease to sin against Jesus Christ. These are the wolves. Those who claim to live for Jesus but obey satan. My every thought from the time i wake up till i go to bed is to serve Jesus, i do not obey my Lord Jesus enemy and commit sin. The Holy Ghost is given to them that OBEY JESUS. Is it any wander than many claim they know the TRUTH by the Holy Ghost, yet they continue to obey satan and live in sins. How then do they know the TRUTH when they willingly walk in sin? Do you willingly commit sin? That is to say Do you willingly obey satan when you are tempted to commit sin?
Beware of those who claim to be followers of Jesus Christ, yet willingly and knowingly follow satan by committing sins. KNOWINGLY full well they are sinful, but do them anyways. Beware of them, and do not listen to anything they teach. These are they are that claim to be in the light (with Jesus) but walk in darkness (willingly commit sins). These are they that claim to be a Good Tree, all the while some of their fruits are wicked and evil. Any Tree that is Good, does not produce any bad fruits.
You believe what men have taught you. i can do nothing but believe what God has told me. Is it my fault you do not believe God speaks to people today?
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Correction, i don't think i am, i know i am. There is a difference.
lol i have read the entire Bible over 90 times in my life. Listen to it on my mp3 player daily, and you say i don't know the Bible. Most kids their Mother read them kid books. My Mom read the Bible to me, even when i was in her womb. My Mom was called to be a Nun, and then she fell in love with my Dad, she felt so bad about not becoming a Nun, she prayed to God that she would dedicate her firstborn son to God. And here i am. i have had conversations with God. Had many Dreams of the Future. Had many visions of the Future, Spoke with Angels of God, and i am now living a life free of all sinning, because Jesus Christ lives in me, and He is my Strength and Power against every single temptations that comes my way.
Is it Godly to accuse another without giving the proof of your accusations? You accuse me of contradicting the Bible, yet do not give one example of this to back up your false accusation against a servant of God. If then YOU claim that i teach thing contrary to Scriptures then reveal it. Do you know why i know you can't reveal it, nor will you reveal it. Because what God told me, and i teach, is what the Word of God teaches also. But if you think you can do it, and not be a false accuser of the brethren, then show anywhere at all where i have taught something contrary to Scriptures. The Truth is, what i teach is contrary to what YOU believe is the TRUTH, and therefore YOU THINK i teach things contrary to Scriptures. But let us see if you will do the Godly thing and back up your accusation against me, saying i teach things contrary to the Scriptures. Show it.
Do you not know who the wolves are. Wolves obey satan (knowingly and willingly commit sin) all the while claiming that Jesus lives in them, that Jesus is their Master and Savior, yet they knowingly and willingly obey His enemy and commit sin, because they LOVE to sin, else they would cease to sin against Jesus Christ. These are the wolves. Those who claim to live for Jesus but obey satan. My every thought from the time i wake up till i go to bed is to serve Jesus, i do not obey my Lord Jesus enemy and commit sin. The Holy Ghost is given to them that OBEY JESUS. Is it any wander than many claim they know the TRUTH by the Holy Ghost, yet they continue to obey satan and live in sins. How then do they know the TRUTH when they willingly walk in sin? Do you willingly commit sin? That is to say Do you willingly obey satan when you are tempted to commit sin?
Beware of those who claim to be followers of Jesus Christ, yet willingly and knowingly follow satan by committing sins. KNOWINGLY full well they are sinful, but do them anyways. Beware of them, and do not listen to anything they teach. These are they are that claim to be in the light (with Jesus) but walk in darkness (willingly commit sins). These are they that claim to be a Good Tree, all the while some of their fruits are wicked and evil. Any Tree that is Good, does not produce any bad fruits.
You believe what men have taught you. i can do nothing but believe what God has told me. Is it my fault you do not believe God speaks to people today?
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Your statement seems to imply there's something wrong with being single. Many singles feel like they're second class citizens who are cast aside in their congregations because married folk look down on them.
Hmmm...
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Yes, today your post was ironic because usually you are edifying.
Scriptures are TRUE, what this generation teaches is LIES.
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It seems like a plausible explanation - throwing a torch into the forum, and watching people scramble as they try to get away from the flames. And then laughing!
Sadly, Dave goes on these rants from time to time. He thinks he is some kind of prophet of God, but he doesn't really know the Bible well enough to be a prophet and contradicts the Bible frequently.
It is really a bad thing that we currently have so many false prophets in this forum. I guess we do need to be aware that wolves do come in sheep's clothing.
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." Matt 7:15
"their violence comes down on their own heads" Scriptures plainly teach.
Rom_2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
That include those who profess to be Christians as well. So continue to live in those sins that you are unwilling to get out of your life and see if you don't fall into the pit that you yourself have made for you to fall into. But those who seek Jesus and to walk in the light as Jesus did, these have hope.
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I didn't think u were being so... ah, it is good to hear your wife gives birth at home, wc is lots different at the hospital. Although many hospitals are now allowing mothers some of their requests, are they not, like piped music at the labor room, etc. etc. wc weren't done before. I am glad to hear of her positive spiritual outlook, and in fact when I first researched on natural birth online wc wasn't long ago, bec. before I only had a book or two to learn abt it, not the internet! now it is more of the scientific an physical aspect explained and emphasized, not the spiritual. I only hope more young ladies who plan to have kids will explore this and see how good the Lord is, even in childbirth.
You do well in trying to answer the question that i presented. Most seem to assume all manner of things against me because i merely asked the question.
You say Jesus changed it, how so?
Careful, that sounds like the TRUTH of Scriptures, and you are now opening yourself up to be attacked by those who do not believe Scriptures to be correct. Just warning you. If i say Scriptures says she has to obey, i would be stoned and cast down the hillside for saying what Scriptures plainly teach. But hey, its the generation we live in.
True, it is not, nor ever was a curse, but it was a punishment given to Eve for disobeying God. In the same verse it states child birth would be painful. This is a punishment given to women because Eve disobeyed God. Labor pain has not ceased. So that part of the punishment still continues to this very day, that is evident, and surely no one will argue with that (who am i kidding, i know this generation) Anyway when God was giving out the punishments to man and woman. This is what God said to the woman. Please NOTE, it is not what i am saying, so please don't attack me because i am quoting the Scriptures.
Gen_3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
The whole reason i started this post, was not to attack women, was not to belittle women, it was not to start a debate about how wives are to treat their husbands. i was asking when did the last part of the punishment God gave to the woman ended? That is my question. If you want to discuss if what the word RULE means, then start a thread about that. If you want to discuss if a woman should be Ruled over by her husband, start a thread about that. And because i merely asked this question DON'T ASSUME you know what i think or believe, or ASSUME the reason i have asked this question. This thread presented a question concerning the punishment that God DID give the woman, and when did it end? If you think you know the answer, then answer it. If you don't know the answer, then why are you responding with posts that is irrelevant to the OP and the question that was asked?
So what you are saying, is she needs to respond based on what he does or doesn't do, if he is Saved or not Saved. How you act toward your husband should be solely on what God wants you to do, regardless what your husband is doing or not doing. Scriptures teach (NOT I) that women are to obey their husbands. It does not say women are to obey their husband if they ______________________.
Tell me which of these two women is God pleased with.
A woman is married to a controlling husband, so she does not obey him like the Word says to because he is controlling, unsaved, and she argues with him, and fights with him constantly.
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A woman is married to a controlling husband, but she obey him because that is what God told her to do in His Word. So even though he is controlling, unsaved, she obeys him, NOT to please her husband, but to please God.
Which of these two women does God smile down upon and will Bless abundantly?
It is not about what your husband is doing or not doing, You should live by the Bible because that is what God says to do. PERIOD. Woe to this generation, they have an excuse for everything under the sun.
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You say Jesus changed it, how so?
Careful, that sounds like the TRUTH of Scriptures, and you are now opening yourself up to be attacked by those who do not believe Scriptures to be correct. Just warning you. If i say Scriptures says she has to obey, i would be stoned and cast down the hillside for saying what Scriptures plainly teach. But hey, its the generation we live in.
True, it is not, nor ever was a curse, but it was a punishment given to Eve for disobeying God. In the same verse it states child birth would be painful. This is a punishment given to women because Eve disobeyed God. Labor pain has not ceased. So that part of the punishment still continues to this very day, that is evident, and surely no one will argue with that (who am i kidding, i know this generation) Anyway when God was giving out the punishments to man and woman. This is what God said to the woman. Please NOTE, it is not what i am saying, so please don't attack me because i am quoting the Scriptures.
Gen_3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
The whole reason i started this post, was not to attack women, was not to belittle women, it was not to start a debate about how wives are to treat their husbands. i was asking when did the last part of the punishment God gave to the woman ended? That is my question. If you want to discuss if what the word RULE means, then start a thread about that. If you want to discuss if a woman should be Ruled over by her husband, start a thread about that. And because i merely asked this question DON'T ASSUME you know what i think or believe, or ASSUME the reason i have asked this question. This thread presented a question concerning the punishment that God DID give the woman, and when did it end? If you think you know the answer, then answer it. If you don't know the answer, then why are you responding with posts that is irrelevant to the OP and the question that was asked?
So what you are saying, is she needs to respond based on what he does or doesn't do, if he is Saved or not Saved. How you act toward your husband should be solely on what God wants you to do, regardless what your husband is doing or not doing. Scriptures teach (NOT I) that women are to obey their husbands. It does not say women are to obey their husband if they ______________________.
Tell me which of these two women is God pleased with.
A woman is married to a controlling husband, so she does not obey him like the Word says to because he is controlling, unsaved, and she argues with him, and fights with him constantly.
or
A woman is married to a controlling husband, but she obey him because that is what God told her to do in His Word. So even though he is controlling, unsaved, she obeys him, NOT to please her husband, but to please God.
Which of these two women does God smile down upon and will Bless abundantly?
It is not about what your husband is doing or not doing, You should live by the Bible because that is what God says to do. PERIOD. Woe to this generation, they have an excuse for everything under the sun.
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Would someone be so kind to show me in Scriptures where the punishment given to women by GOD has ended?
Gen_3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
This is a Punishment That God gave to women for eating of the forbidden fruit.
So then my question is, WHO changed it? Who said that women are equal with men? Who said the husband WILL NOT rule over them? Who said the punishment has ended for women?
So go ahead and call me male chauvinist, or a chauvinistic pig, or whatever else you want to call me to make yourself feel better, but it will not change the TRUTH of God. Woe to this generation for the women have become men, and the men have become women.
IF God said Husband will rule over the wife. Satan teaches "NOT SO" Women are equal to men. Satan will teach contrary to what God teaches. If God says "Wives obey your husband in everything". satan will teach contrary "Wives you do not have to obey your husbands" Now in this wicked (last days generation) Women wear the pants and men just do whatever their wives say to do "or else" satan has turned this world around, and now women rule over their husbands.
But now you have NO excuses. i have told you the TRUTH, if you do not live by what the Scriptures teach, then you are living by what satan teaches. Sugar coat it all you want to, but those who continue to NOT live in the Word of God, will NOT be taken up with Him when He returns. You have been warned.
Let the stone throwing begin.
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i was led to ask the question When did the punishment given to women by God ended? That is what i asked, what this thread has turned into, is what others have made it.
This is True, but it does not negate the Scriptures in what it teaches specifically to Husband, specifically to wives, specifically to children, and many other things it specifically addresses.
Well one reason is because this lost world doesn't like to live by the Word of God and what it says they should live, is a Big problem and the reason for this lost world. Scriptures teach to LOVE ONE ANOTHER, this world does not do that. Scriptures teach for Husband to love their wives, this world does not do that. Scriptures teach for Wives to obey/submit to their husbands, this world does not do that.
So you are like the others? You think i asked the question to kick up dust for no good reason? This thread was asking a question when did the punishment to women given to Eve by God, has ended. Have you rebuked, reproved everyone who has responded OFF TOPIC? Or is it easier for you to just accuse me of starting this post for no good reason but to kick up dust?
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What voice has told you that i have something against women? i have nothing against women or men. What does that have anything to do with my question that i presented in the OP?
No, because i choose to be celibate, my life is only to please God, i live and breathe to please God. i wear a wedding ring, and when women ask me about it, i tell them "i am married to Jesus" imagine the looks i get from them then. i have women in my life that i take care of. i have Mom, Ex-wife, Aunt on my Mom's side, Aunt on my Dad's side. All of these are single and have no man to take care of things for them. So i do that for them. I fix things that break in their homes, i remodels whatever they want done, i mow yards for them, i am at their beck and call. If they ask me for something, i do it. There are many who would like to have me as their husband, but i plainly tell them, i am married to Jesus, i have enough women who love and adore me, i love them, and i love everyone. i am single, NOT because i have no choice in the matter, i am single because i choose to be married to God and please only HIM, not myself. i have been celibate for over 9 years, and i will most certainly be that way until i die, or He comes for me. i choose to be like Christ.
You can't possibly know what i understand or don't understand concerning the husband and the wife in a marriage, i have not revealed that to you or anywhere in this thread. What i have been discussing which you and others can't seem to, or won't grasp, is talking about what the Scriptures says and teaches, has nothing to do with what i believe or understand.
How so? Please back up your accusation that i have done this. Name me one thing that i have said that paints a bleak picture of what a woman is to expect by getting married, except that i said they should obey the Bible and what it says. NOW if YOU believe the Bible paints a bleak picture, then say that. But i have not done that.
The Topic of this post, was a Question presented as to when did the punishment that God gave to all women had ended. That is the Topic of this Thread. Now others have come into this thread and changed it altogether, and i have been merely replying to anyone who has addressed me in a post.
Also how is it MY LOGIC, when all i have done is present what Scriptures teach?
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No, because i choose to be celibate, my life is only to please God, i live and breathe to please God. i wear a wedding ring, and when women ask me about it, i tell them "i am married to Jesus" imagine the looks i get from them then. i have women in my life that i take care of. i have Mom, Ex-wife, Aunt on my Mom's side, Aunt on my Dad's side. All of these are single and have no man to take care of things for them. So i do that for them. I fix things that break in their homes, i remodels whatever they want done, i mow yards for them, i am at their beck and call. If they ask me for something, i do it. There are many who would like to have me as their husband, but i plainly tell them, i am married to Jesus, i have enough women who love and adore me, i love them, and i love everyone. i am single, NOT because i have no choice in the matter, i am single because i choose to be married to God and please only HIM, not myself. i have been celibate for over 9 years, and i will most certainly be that way until i die, or He comes for me. i choose to be like Christ.
You can't possibly know what i understand or don't understand concerning the husband and the wife in a marriage, i have not revealed that to you or anywhere in this thread. What i have been discussing which you and others can't seem to, or won't grasp, is talking about what the Scriptures says and teaches, has nothing to do with what i believe or understand.
How so? Please back up your accusation that i have done this. Name me one thing that i have said that paints a bleak picture of what a woman is to expect by getting married, except that i said they should obey the Bible and what it says. NOW if YOU believe the Bible paints a bleak picture, then say that. But i have not done that.
The Topic of this post, was a Question presented as to when did the punishment that God gave to all women had ended. That is the Topic of this Thread. Now others have come into this thread and changed it altogether, and i have been merely replying to anyone who has addressed me in a post.
Also how is it MY LOGIC, when all i have done is present what Scriptures teach?
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i commend you, for answering the question that i presented in the OP. i just hoped this thread would have stayed on coarse.
Such is the generation we live in. It is hard for the rich to enter into Heaven, so let both husband and wife work making it harder to get into Heaven, if the Scriptures are to be believed.
If the poor are Blessed, would it not be better to choose to be poor and Blessed than to be rich and harder to get to Heaven?
This is not how God set it up, This is how man sets it up, Therefore many marriages are NOT Blessed by God and end in divorce.
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Such is the generation we live in. It is hard for the rich to enter into Heaven, so let both husband and wife work making it harder to get into Heaven, if the Scriptures are to be believed.
If the poor are Blessed, would it not be better to choose to be poor and Blessed than to be rich and harder to get to Heaven?
This is not how God set it up, This is how man sets it up, Therefore many marriages are NOT Blessed by God and end in divorce.
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