Womens Punishment ended?

[DiscipleDave]

Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

Please take note that it is the Word of God that quotes that statement NOT me. It is nothing to me that women still experience the punishment of painful childbirth. But i am certain it is still important to God, hence the reason that punishment still continues. But what is it to me?

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Ever read supernatural childbirth? It's full of testimonies of women who stood on His Word and had an absolute painfree deliverance.

Drugs, C-section, under water all are methods used to reduce pain during child birth. Do all men sweat at their jobs? Did i say "ALL WOMEN suffer at childbirth"? No. All things are possible to them that know God. All things.

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[MsSuzanna]

I will take Gods word over your commentaries but thanks anyway, at least this didn't come off nasty. Still, we have to live, I understand that and I believe everything in balance. I have given up everything though, there's nothing I care about more then Christ, then my family and others. I'll let Jesus decide on what I have and when, I don't care about it.. at all. Any of my things can burn right now, and I'd say, well praise God... and I mean just that.

so do you think it's more important to get rich, be rich, or help plant seeds for the Gods Kingdom?

I actually found it to be a good explanation of the scriptures you are wrong about. I was only trying to help but you would rather lean on your own understanding. Thats alright. One day you will learn that you have to rightly divide the word.

Are you going to answer my question? Actually both questions?

 

[MsSuzanna]

Drugs, C-section, under water all are methods used to reduce pain during child birth. Do all men sweat at their jobs? Did i say "ALL WOMEN suffer at childbirth"? No. All things are possible to them that know God. All things.

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C-sections may not be painful when under and in surgery but the second the pain killers wear off, the pain is horrible. Not to mention the gases that build up from trapped air in the womb. Coughing,laughing, moving! The recovery is a long process of a heck of alot of pain! You have no idea what you are talking about!

 

[Brainfreeze]

I actually found it to be a good explanation of the scriptures you are wrong about. I was only trying to help but you would rather lean on your own understanding. Thats alright. One day you will learn that you have to rightly divide the word.

Are you going to answer my question? Actually both questions?

What makes you think, your " rightly " divinding anything? Please show me which apostle was rich? It means exactly what it says, STOP trying to twist scripture. I don't know why I go on, think as you want, not going to continue this, your mouth will snare you eventually. I'll pray you stop your arrogance, and preaching to be rich, your wrong..

 

[RobbyEarl]

What makes you think, your " rightly " divinding anything? Please show me which apostle was rich? It means exactly what it says, STOP trying to twist scripture. I don't know why I go on, think as you want, not going to continue this, your mouth will snare you eventually. I'll pray you stop your arrogance, and preaching to be rich, your wrong..

Peter owned not one but two fishing ships, Maybe not wealthy but well to do and Jesus stayed in his house and healed his mother.

 

[MsSuzanna]

This thread is at my limit of foolishness. Cant take anymore Seeya...

 

[MsSuzanna]

What makes you think, your " rightly " divinding anything? Please show me which apostle was rich? It means exactly what it says, STOP trying to twist scripture. I don't know why I go on, think as you want, not going to continue this, your mouth will snare you eventually. I'll pray you stop your arrogance, and preaching to be rich, your wrong..

I dont believe youve ever been saved. Those who are are willing to share. Its not something to hide. smh.............

 

[Brainfreeze]

Peter owned not one but two fishing ships, Maybe not wealthy but well to do and Jesus stayed in his house and healed his mother.

I just showed where Peter said He gave all He had, is he lying there? Did he go out amongst the people with Jesus? My real question is, what would Jesus do? Would He make it a priority to be rich or preach " to be rich " or to be a servant?

 

[DiscipleDave]

This concept is totally foreign to my marriage. As a couple,we make decisions as one. We want what is best for us both. We work together,there are no "roles" in our marriage. Neither of us would make a large decision without discussing with the other person the pros and cons. He wants what is best for me and I feel the same about him. Two are to be one,is that not so? Very different idea of marriage than I am use to.

The marriage you are talking about is totally foreign to me. lol, a marriage where you NEVER disagree about anything at all? Sure you can talk over decisions, but sometimes (more often then not) there is a disagreement. He thinks one way, you think another. What then?

Lets say He wants chicken, you want pizza. What do you have? If you have have anything other than chicken how have you submitted to your husband? If he wanted chicken, and you talk him out of it, and have something else, how have you submitted to what your husband wants? Sure a good marriage is one where you both voice your opinions, talk things over, weigh this, weigh that, but only one makes the final decision based on all the input given. If there is wickedness in the home, or trouble, or problems. God holds the MAN responsible, NOT the wife. It is written the man is the head of the woman. so if the house is corrupted, the man will have to answer to God because of it, not the woman. So you may have a 50/50 marriage and talk things over in all your decision making, and you never disagree about anything at all, but it will be the man that will answer to God concerning the things that are going on in the home.

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[DiscipleDave]

All woman should submit to God. Also all men should too.
After that, it'll all fall into place.
Simple.
Where's the confusion at?

100% agree. The confusion however is, people do not understand by submitting to God means to submit to the Word of God and what it says and teaches. Therein lies the confusion, this generation like to think they are submitting to God but don't have to obey His Word.

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[Brainfreeze]

I dont believe youve ever been saved. Those who are are willing to share. Its not something to hide. smh.............

I love you, wish you wouldn't talk to me like that. I've never been more close to reporting someone. I haven't said anything bad to you. You've now said you don't think I'm saved, falsely accuse me saying I took scripture out of context, and follow me to other threads to tell me I'm on babies milk and decieved.. And your wrong on all accounts. I still love you though and forgive you, though I'm sure you don't want my forgiveness... All good, moving on.

 

[DiscipleDave]

Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

Your right, i take my calling very seriously. i reveal what God told me to tell this generation, and He even said to me, it is a generation that will not hear you. i even asked Him then, then why say anything at all to them, if you already know they will not hear me when i tell them the things you have told me?" He said "So they will have no excuses when they stand before me on Judgment Day" then i understood. When you stand before Him on Judgement Day, you will not be able to plead ignorance, that you did not know the TRUTH. Because i DiscipleDave have told you the TRUTH, you have heard it from me, who plainly teaches it is from HIM. You do not believe me, because the TRUTH is not in you, if it were in you then you would hear the Masters voice when you heard it. What i teach is what He told me. If you do not believe me, it is not i that you don't believe, but him who told me these things. NOTHING i teach is contrary to Scriptures NOTHING!!!! it is only what you believe to be the truth is what contradicts what i teach. You don't disagree with me, like you think, you disagree with God who told me these things.
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You take yourself too seriously.

i am a human being, born of a human mother and a human father, i am human, as a filthy rag, my flesh is evil and wicked and desires to sin. i don't take nothing i think seriously, because i am human, my thoughts are human, they are prone to error, they are prone to satan, they are prone to stinking thinking. i take nothing i think seriously, because what i think is irrelevant. But what God has told me to teach this generation, i take very seriously, because it is my calling. Do you not take seriously what you are called to do? or do you not even know what you are called to do by God?

You are sinning right now with your haughty spirit.

It is your own thinking that is accusing me of sinning. If you think i have a haughty spirit then show what i have said that puts myself on a pedestal? How have i elevated myself? Save i tell you the Truth that God made me a prophet. Please tell. If you are going to accuse a servant of God surely you can back it up, what have i said that you THINK is haughty?

Where you have gone astray is judging those whom you do not know. It is up to God to judge eternally and not you.

Are you not judging me of judging people i don't know? Tell me, where i have judged Anyone at all? You can't, know why? Because i have not done such a thing. i have not judged one single person here. i have not singled out any person on these boards. i love you and every single person on these boards. i have not judge anyone at all, like you are now accusing me. If you THINK i have done this thing, then reveal it, show where i have judged any person at all. You can't, because i didn't, it is only in your own mind that i have done this thing that you accuse me of, it is not from the TRUTH.

God said the things you mention in his word. He wasnt speaking solely to YOU.

Who are you to say, that God does not speak to people? He spoke directly to prophets of old, and He speaks directly to prophets in the last days as well, Who are you to say that He does not do so? Have you heard all the things that i said that God told me? No you have not. i know many things that God has told me that are not found in the Word of God, some things i am not allowed to tell right now. You do not know what God has told me, because i have not revealed to you all that God has told me. Scriptures plainly teach those who claim something is from God and it is not from God shall die, and not only that one who speaks it will die, but his family as well will die. When i say God told me, i assure you God told me, if He did not tell me, then i am going to Hell for all eternity for sure, But i know who has been speaking with me, and that is God. Well He has not spoken to me since 1994 but that is another page.

God also said that you will lose your lampstand if you do not return to your first love.
Are you saying that you are infallible?

i am human, i am infallible, prone to errors and stinking thinking, my flesh is corrupt, my flesh is weak (Does not mean Jesus in me, is not stronger than my desires of the flesh) i am most certainly fallible. But what God has told me is the TRUTH, what He has told me to teach this generation, that is indeed infallible, because it is from God and comes from God, What He has told me, is PERFECT, it is TRUTH, it is incorruptible, it is infallible. What i teach is not my opinions, not my thoughts, not my ideals, not my beliefs. What i teach is what God told me, and that is infallible.

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[DiscipleDave]

Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

Because i DiscipleDave have told you the TRUTH, you have heard it from me, who plainly teaches it is from HIM. You do not believe me, because the TRUTH is not in you, if it were in you then you would hear the Masters voice when you heard it. What i teach is what He told me. If you do not believe me, it is not i that you don't believe, but him who told me these things. NOTHING i teach is contrary to Scriptures NOTHING!!!! it is only what you believe to be the truth is what contradicts what i teach. You don't disagree with me, like you think, you disagree with God who told me these things.

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This right here is a sure sign of a false prophet and teacher. Stay away from this type of spiritual manipulation.

What part of what i said is untrue? satan is the father of lies, what part of what i said above, do YOU think is untrue? Did anything i say above contradict any Scriptures at all? NO. What i said above contradicts what this generations thinks is the truth. The TRUTH is the Word of God, so tell me, what part of what i said above is contrary to the Word of God? Sure it is contrary to what YOU think is the TRUTH, but let us use Scriptures to prove who is false and who is True OK? let us assume for a moment that God did indeed speak to me, and told me many things which i then tell you what He told me. If then you disagree with me, and all i am doing is repeating what He told me, then you are in TRUTH disagreeing with Him who told me, and not me. Is it God's fault that people today don't believe God speaks to people today. Even though Scriptures testifies plainly that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever?

It is really a work of the flesh called "witchcraft

" in Galatians 5 which is the Greek word for drugs which is the "mixing of things together to get a desired result".

huh?

Viewers beware!

Yes beware of anyone like me, who teach adamantly against sinning, who says more than anything at all to LOVE ONE ANOTHER. Who abhors all sinning, who does ALL things to please Jesus Christ. yes let us beware of such a person who claims to have had conversations with God, seen visions, had dreams, spoke with Angels of God, which are all things that all the prophets have done since there were prophets in the world. Yes beware of the prophets, because this generation doesn't believe they exist, so all of them must be false. lol

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[DiscipleDave]

You quoted me but it wasnt you I was speaking to. You took what I said out of context.

i believe Scriptures, not what this generations teaches as truth.

You believe your interpretation of scriptures.

Interpretation belong to God NOT TO MEN. Know you not that it is because men interpret the Word of God that we have so many false doctrines today. What i teach is not my interpretations, but what i teach is what God has told me. They are not my interpretations if God told me. They are God's not mine.

Its easy to prop yourself up when you say YOU believe scripture and not what this generation teaches as truth.

So according to you, if a person says they believe Scriptures, then they are propping themselves up?

Its a wide sweep.
With gross exaggeration; you present a false premise.

i present what God has told me, call it what you will. But it does not change the TRUTH that it is from God.

Have i said anything evil? or wicked? Have i said anything contrary to SCRIPTURES, if you think i have then reveal the Scriptures. What i teach is contrary to what this generation thinks is TRUTH, but is NOT contrary to the Holy Inspired Word of God. If you call me false, then show what i have said that is false. If you call me false prophet then show where i have prophesied falsely?
Here is a prophesy that you may know one day that all that i have said is what God has told me. Because i seen the anti-christ say on TV "Where is your God now" When you hear that, i pray that you will remember me telling you that he would say that. This is when the Great Falling Away will happen. NOT only in the Christian Faith, but all religions around the World will fall away. Oh the things i could tell you about the Beast, the antichrist, the mark, but if you can't believe that God speaks to people today, you will most assuredly not believe the meatier things of God, when this generation can't even accept the Fact that God speaks to people today. He is God and can speak to whomever He chooses to speak to.

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[MsSuzanna]

The marriage you are talking about is totally foreign to me. lol, a marriage where you NEVER disagree about anything at all? Sure you can talk over decisions, but sometimes (more often then not) there is a disagreement. He thinks one way, you think another. What then?

Lets say He wants chicken, you want pizza. What do you have? If you have have anything other than chicken how have you submitted to your husband? If he wanted chicken, and you talk him out of it, and have something else, how have you submitted to what your husband wants? Sure a good marriage is one where you both voice your opinions, talk things over, weigh this, weigh that, but only one makes the final decision based on all the input given. If there is wickedness in the home, or trouble, or problems. God holds the MAN responsible, NOT the wife. It is written the man is the head of the woman. so if the house is corrupted, the man will have to answer to God because of it, not the woman. So you may have a 50/50 marriage and talk things over in all your decision making, and you never disagree about anything at all, but it will be the man that will answer to God concerning the things that are going on in the home.

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If he wanted chicken, and you talk him out of it, and have something else, how have you submitted to what your husband wants?

What if the chicken is frozen? He may have to wait till midnight to eat. But by all means Kayla should submit !!!


OH BROTHER

 

[DiscipleDave]

Going to bed now, i will continue at post 149 when i next return.

God Bless all of you, And please stop obeying satan when you are tempted to commit sins. Instead look to Jesus to help you, He is more than willing to give you Strength and Power to overcome every temptation that comes upon you. Remember Scriptures teach, your master is to whom you obey. If you obey satans temptations, then guess who your master is, regardless what you say with your mouth, Scriptures are not broken.

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[MsSuzanna]

You quoted me but it wasnt you I was speaking to. You took what I said out of context.





Interpretation belong to God NOT TO MEN. Know you not that it is because men interpret the Word of God that we have so many false doctrines today. What i teach is not my interpretations, but what i teach is what God has told me. They are not my interpretations if God told me. They are God's not mine.



So according to you, if a person says they believe Scriptures, then they are propping themselves up?


[/B]

i present what God has told me, call it what you will. But it does not change the TRUTH that it is from God.

Have i said anything evil? or wicked? Have i said anything contrary to SCRIPTURES, if you think i have then reveal the Scriptures. What i teach is contrary to what this generation thinks is TRUTH, but is NOT contrary to the Holy Inspired Word of God. If you call me false, then show what i have said that is false. If you call me false prophet then show where i have prophesied falsely?
Here is a prophesy that you may know one day that all that i have said is what God has told me. Because i seen the anti-christ say on TV "Where is your God now" When you hear that, i pray that you will remember me telling you that he would say that. This is when the Great Falling Away will happen. NOT only in the Christian Faith, but all religions around the World will fall away. Oh the things i could tell you about the Beast, the antichrist, the mark, but if you can't believe that God speaks to people today, you will most assuredly not believe the meatier things of God, when this generation can't even accept the Fact that God speaks to people today. He is God and can speak to whomever He chooses to speak to.

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I believe you believe you interpret correctly.
Which btw; I am not going to be here when the antichrist shows up. The church is gone. It is not a time appointed to wrath for Gods church.

I dont need you to add "revelation" about the tribulation. I understand it perfectly.

Its not that I dont believe that God speaks to people.
I dont believe that God would have you title this thread as "womens punishment ended?"

If you are a true prophet, surely you must have proof that you prophesied in the past and it did come to pass ?

 

[MsSuzanna]

What makes you think, your " rightly " divinding anything? Please show me which apostle was rich? It means exactly what it says, STOP trying to twist scripture. I don't know why I go on, think as you want, not going to continue this, your mouth will snare you eventually. I'll pray you stop your arrogance, and preaching to be rich, your wrong..

Preaching to be rich? Now that was a ball faced lie. LOL

Dont bear false witness against me

 

[Brainfreeze]

All are blessed who love the Lord with all their heart their minds and their souls.
It is a sin to allow money to be an idol.It is NOT a sin to be rich. God appoints whom he chooses to be rich because he knows they can stay grounded IN HIM. Perhaps you cannot? Perhaps you choose to be poor because you have confidence issues? Ive met many a poor man that has so many excuses as to why he is unsuccessful. The truth is, they are weak.

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Your words lady, not mine...

 

[MsSuzanna]

Your words lady, not mine...

No. That was your twisted version of what I wrote. People can see what Ive said. I dont preach being rich! LOL
But thank you for making me laugh AGAIN