what do people think of Palestine - Israel conflict !!

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valiant

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Israel cannot and will not be defeated it will look as though they are and they will flee Jerusalem to Petra which is an uninhabited city in Jordan and their brother will help and feed them their till they regroup and fight again and and that's when they will call on the one whom they pierced and he will fight for them in the valley of megiddo. I don't plan on being here for that but, for those who do it's the word of God.
lol you mean the interpretation of Earl
 

valiant

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where does the OT say that they will return in unbelief?

they are both intruders out of God's plan
 
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kaylagrl

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romans 11 says that the Gentiles were grafted into Israel and unbelieving Israel were cut off
It says the Jews have been blinded for a time. The Gentiles have not replaced the Jews in the promise. Israel belongs to the chosen people,still. But you dont actually have to believe in the Bible at all to understand that the land belongs to the Jews. History is clear about that fact.
 

valiant

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of course the believing Gentiles have replaced unbelieving Israel in Israel. it SAYS SO

I'm glad you said you don't have to believe the Bible. The Bible says that Abraham will receive the promise in the new earth, (Heb 11.10-16)
 
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kaylagrl

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of course the believing Gentiles have replaced unbelieving Israel in Israel. it SAYS SO

I'm glad you said you don't have to believe the Bible. The Bible says that Abraham will receive the promise in the new earth, (Heb 11.10-14)

I did not say you dont have to believe the Bible,do not twist my words please. I said you dont have to believe the Bible to understand the land of Israel belongs to the Jews.

The church has not replaced the Jews,they are still Gods chosen, still the apple of His eye.
 
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alexmurphy

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The Arabs have 600 times more land than Israel (the Jews), so for lands sake, let Israel be in peace.
Because you titled the land Palestine I assume you have a different take?
Yes i do, Israel for me is a criminal state.
 
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alexmurphy

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Yes,Israel has exactly 1% of the land in the middle east. But I asked the question back to the OP because I sense he has an agenda.
What do you mean by saying 1%?

Does it justify killing women and children and oppressing minority?
 
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alexmurphy

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I'm on the side of what the Bible says about it. The Jewish people get possession of all the land that God portions to them. And all who agree with that will be blessed with peace. The Bible says, "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem; those who love you (the God portioned land) shall know peace."
The Bible says the aren't supposed to have land now after they sinned !
 
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alexmurphy

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The whole world is against Israel the "Palastine" argument is a manufactured one before Israel there was nothing, since the birth of Israel the land has come to life and will continue. We Christians must support Israel since we are grafted onto the vine which is Israel and when Jesus does return it will be to Israel.
One last thought all of the so called Palastinian refugees, why haven't the surrounding Arab states taken them in? If they did there would be no Palastinian problem. Come Lord Jesus Come.
Lol. The Jews living there now we're Jews from West who were persecuted. The Palestinian Muslims and Christians gave them refuge. Now they killed them both and want all land by force. If you support Israel, then in my view is criminal too. The land now is no Jewish land by based to athiest laws. A vast majority of Jews don't support the Zionist state. Even Christians are persecuted not to speak of Muslim population.
 
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alexmurphy

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Israel has the title deed to the land..called the Word of the Living God ..its their land, no question or debate about it.
No. They were banished by God after their rebellion. What's now is just a killing state. If u justify their killing of innocent people then i pity your thinking. If i knew it was the will of God, believe me, id be athiest now !!
 
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alexmurphy

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I don't know all the facts, but the Lord did give that region to the Jews as a permanent inheritance. It is a tiny piece of land - look at all the land the Muslims govern and look at all the land the Christians govern. You'd think people would allow the Jews to live peacefully in the land the Lord gave them.
So to have their land, just wipe the Muslims out? If you don't have a house, do u kill people of some other house and occupy it?
 
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alexmurphy

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Resurrection33, the land promised to Israel is MUCH larger than what they have today. What they have is a tiny sliver of what God promised. It's such a tiny piece of land.... I don't see the conflict. What we do know is that the Islamic groups in the area have an agenda to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

Another point to consider... God will bring into judgment all the countries that divide up Israel's land. Under W Bush, we forced Israel to give up the Gaza Strip. Obama and many other countries want to make Israel even smaller.

"Palestinians" have always been a nomadic people. Interestingly, their muslim brothers in the surrounding countries kick them out.
Seriously, Islamic groups have agenda to wipe Israel !!

What do I call you when i occupy your house, kill your family and you try to fight back! I think i can call you the terrorist then !
 
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alexmurphy

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I agree as we pray for the peace of Israel we are truely praying for the Prince of Peace the Lord Jesus Christ to return and establish his everlasting Kingdom the only true way that there will ever be peace in that region
Israel now is an athiest country. People of God don't go killing and occupying other people's homes !!
 
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alexmurphy

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I think Israel is justified in defending herself from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
I will occupy your house and I will defend it against you ! Justified ?
 
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alexmurphy

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Israel cannot and will not be defeated it will look as though they are and they will flee Jerusalem to Petra which is an uninhabited city in Jordan and their brother will help and feed them their till they regroup and fight again and and that's when they will call on the one whom they pierced and he will fight for them in the valley of megiddo. I don't plan on being here for that but, for those who do it's the word of God.
I am sure it will. It's a devil in disguise. Where does Bible teach to kill other people to set up your kingdom?
 

PennEd

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the first time was under Moses. the second time was the Exile.
There was no nation of Israel under Moses. They hadn't even crossed into the promise land, nor did they possess Jerusalem. What you have posted is a desperate attempt to try and justify replacement theology. Recognizing that Isaiah wouldn't make sense unless the twice regathering verse could somehow be exlained away.
 

Agricola

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Alex, you do realise that when Palestinians cry out about stolen land, its not about a few houses, sure its thinly disguised as such to fool liberal westerners, but the stolen land they refer to is the whole of Israel.

ANother thing for your consideration, Israel moved out of Gaza and handed complete rule over to the Palestinians. Result was more rockets and morters fired over into Israel and the increase of building of terror tunnels.


Another interesting point, why did Egypt close their border with Gaza?

So, then where are all these women and children being killed at the hands of Israel then? news reports please.
 
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kaylagrl

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I will occupy your house and I will defend it against you ! Justified ?

If you are truly 23yrs old I may be able to understand your way of thinking. Please read history instead of listening to liberal talking heads that fill your head with foolishness.Israel is entitled to the land historically and Biblically.
 
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Linda70

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