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miktre
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I never said you still teach it dude, LoL Maybe I confusing you with Mobius, you believe the entire NT is Holy inspired? If so, my wrong.
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miktre
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Originally Posted by shad
If you are wrong and the church and body of Christ is raptured before the great tribulation, what are you going to tell the Lord when you have to meet Him face to face at the judgment seat of Christ? Are you going to tell Him that you really believed that's what the scriptures taught so you can not be held accountable for your error and for misleading so many, no harm done? Or are you going to accuse the writers and translators of the scriptures for not making it clear and accuse them before Christ for your error? As a believer you have the Holy Spirit indwelling you, that is there to guide you into all truth. Are you going to tell the Lord that the Spirit did not do His job in guiding you into the truth of the rapture of the church? Are you willing to take the risk of suffering the loss of all rewards because of a terrible misunderstanding about the church that has not been appointed to God's wrath?
Originally Posted by shad
If you are wrong and the church and body of Christ is raptured before the great tribulation, what are you going to tell the Lord when you have to meet Him face to face at the judgment seat of Christ? Are you going to tell Him that you really believed that's what the scriptures taught so you can not be held accountable for your error and for misleading so many, no harm done? Or are you going to accuse the writers and translators of the scriptures for not making it clear and accuse them before Christ for your error? As a believer you have the Holy Spirit indwelling you, that is there to guide you into all truth. Are you going to tell the Lord that the Spirit did not do His job in guiding you into the truth of the rapture of the church? Are you willing to take the risk of suffering the loss of all rewards because of a terrible misunderstanding about the church that has not been appointed to God's wrath?
As you can see Pastor Joe explains here how the rapture doctrine deceives Christians.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8KBOzflpnM[/video]
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8KBOzflpnM[/video]
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miktre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shad
If you are wrong and the church and body of Christ is raptured before the great tribulation, what are you going to tell the Lord when you have to meet Him face to face at the judgment seat of Christ? Are you going to tell Him that you really believed that's what the scriptures taught so you can not be held accountable for your error and for misleading so many, no harm done? Or are you going to accuse the writers and translators of the scriptures for not making it clear and accuse them before Christ for your error? As a believer you have the Holy Spirit indwelling you, that is there to guide you into all truth. Are you going to tell the Lord that the Spirit did not do His job in guiding you into the truth of the rapture of the church? Are you willing to take the risk of suffering the loss of all rewards because of a terrible misunderstanding about the church that has not been appointed to God's wrath?
You going to help guide me when its not on the scriptures? Don't think so. Our gathering together(I don't call it rapture causes confusion and because of its dubious origins) is nothing less than a satanic lie to deceive Christians into thinking that Christ will return before satan and the fallen angels. When we are gathered together we are not leaving earth. Why would we when Christ is coming here? I have scripture after scripture to document it.
Revelation 2:10-11
10Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
11He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
Originally Posted by shad
If you are wrong and the church and body of Christ is raptured before the great tribulation, what are you going to tell the Lord when you have to meet Him face to face at the judgment seat of Christ? Are you going to tell Him that you really believed that's what the scriptures taught so you can not be held accountable for your error and for misleading so many, no harm done? Or are you going to accuse the writers and translators of the scriptures for not making it clear and accuse them before Christ for your error? As a believer you have the Holy Spirit indwelling you, that is there to guide you into all truth. Are you going to tell the Lord that the Spirit did not do His job in guiding you into the truth of the rapture of the church? Are you willing to take the risk of suffering the loss of all rewards because of a terrible misunderstanding about the church that has not been appointed to God's wrath?
You going to help guide me when its not on the scriptures? Don't think so. Our gathering together(I don't call it rapture causes confusion and because of its dubious origins) is nothing less than a satanic lie to deceive Christians into thinking that Christ will return before satan and the fallen angels. When we are gathered together we are not leaving earth. Why would we when Christ is coming here? I have scripture after scripture to document it.
Revelation 2:10-11
10Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
11He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
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shad
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To put this bonehead up there on video, you are a gutless man with no backbone. You have filled your head full of this 'garbage', a term that Imoss has used from time to time. That man hasn't studied the scriptures, he is just full of head knowledge and contrive intellectualism but not the truth. Imoss and others should be just a upset with this video as they are with those that teach that there are others ways to God other then through the name of Christ. Don't bring Billy Graham into this because that is not what he said nor what he meant and any moron can figure that out.
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miktre
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Why are you so hateful?
Dear Abba, is this the state You allow us to be in? I pray that You teach Shad the love You have taught us through your Son, Yeshua HaMoshiach.
Shad, do you not understand what the Scriptures say about love? Because your post is full of nothing but hate.
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shad
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You do know the things that God hates in Prov 6:16-19. Do we love that which God hates and hate that which God loves? God loved Jacob but Esau He hated / Mal 1:2, Rom 9:13. Because he hated Esau was God unrighteous? Is it unrighteous to hate sin and abhor evil? Is it unrighteous to hate the one and love the other in serving mammon / Mt 6:24? What about Jude 1:23? Christ hated and was angry with the religious crowd and the leaven of their doctrine / Mt 16:12? Do we hate our own lives that we might find it unto eternal life / Jn 12:25? What do we do if we want to follow Christ in relationship to our families / Lk 14:26,27,33. Does this sound cruel? Have you got on your knees and asked what Christ meant by these statements? When God will judge the the wicked and the unrighteous, is He broken with tears because He loves them or in His justice casts them into the lake of fire as workers of iniquity? When this takes place there will be joy in heaven and we and all the host of heaven will worship the Lamb forever and ever / Rev 20:10-21:4. Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right / Gen 18:25?
It will be both.
Yeshua, the direct reflection of G-d, said to love your neighbour and your enemy. Nowhere does he tell you to hate.
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shad
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There is now a thread entitled 'Paul'. Now you can tell us what you think of his teaching and about him personally and it will be relevant. Can't wait to hear it '_uh_n.
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miktre
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Browncoat is going through a period of rebellion I think as his family are in Christian ministry. I will pray Brandon that you return to remain solidly grounded in Gods word & growing in knowledge of the grace of our Lord & savior Jesus Christ. It saddens the mothers when their children rebel but whats wonderful is knowing she taught you the way in which to go & when you are old you will not depart from it. I do hope you figure it out though before you have Children but if not they've got g-ma & gramps.
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miktre
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Yeah I'm gonna pray for him too. Pray for aussiebushman also, there is reason he keeps coming back, he is going through a major spiritual warfare also and we can only help with prayers if they reject Christ's simplistic teachings.
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miktre
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Thank goodness you aren't Christ."Behold, I come Quickly"
'Miktre, suuuuuuuuuuurpriiiiiiiiiiiiiiise'
How come we don't see you on here quite as much lately?
Yes, I noticed Aussie has been banned. Although he has offended me several times, I certainly don't want to see him banned forever.
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Greetings Miktre,
I saw a video the other day on YouTube which included a picture similar to this one. Perhaps the author of the video held the same belief about satan that you do?
Tell me, does this pic mean anything to you?
(Forgive me if this picture has been included in this thread as it's nearly 100 pages long, and I have no time to read every one).
Quest
I saw a video the other day on YouTube which included a picture similar to this one. Perhaps the author of the video held the same belief about satan that you do?
Tell me, does this pic mean anything to you?
(Forgive me if this picture has been included in this thread as it's nearly 100 pages long, and I have no time to read every one).
Quest
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miktre
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Yes its the Ouroboros, you see it everywhere. Satan swallowing his tail symbolizing the secret nature of the universe. Creation out of destruction, life out of death, order out of chaos. It will be game over at the end of the thousand years for satan though.Greetings Miktre,
I saw a video the other day on YouTube which included a picture similar to this one. Perhaps the author of the video held the same belief about satan that you do?
Tell me, does this pic mean anything to you?
(Forgive me if this picture has been included in this thread as it's nearly 100 pages long, and I have no time to read every one).
Quest