The Church in Acts did not meet on the first day of the week...
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Ac 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread,
Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
first breaking bread is not a religious service, it is eating a meal.
second this verse records what happened on that one day only, it is
not a new command to in any way change the sabbath to the first day.
also at most times the apostles lived or stayed and ate together,
and they went house to house everyday of the week.
but every Sabbath they went to a place for worship to be had.
this verse we see the 7th day sabbath has just ended,
it gets dark and they are going to eat a meal, paul continues to preach.
this now is a regularwork day,pauls companions had set sail around penisula,
Paul was going to walk those miles, at first lite, on the first work day of week.
11When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten,
and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed.
if this is a 1st day sabbath, why are they working on that day.
Paul , like Jesus custom was, preached on the 7th day sabbath about 84 times,
also working as tent maker, keeping sabbath for year and half.
Paul here was giving the others staying behind last minute instructions before leaving
Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
first breaking bread is not a religious service, it is eating a meal.
second this verse records what happened on that one day only, it is
not a new command to in any way change the sabbath to the first day.
also at most times the apostles lived or stayed and ate together,
and they went house to house everyday of the week.
but every Sabbath they went to a place for worship to be had.
this verse we see the 7th day sabbath has just ended,
it gets dark and they are going to eat a meal, paul continues to preach.
this now is a regularwork day,pauls companions had set sail around penisula,
Paul was going to walk those miles, at first lite, on the first work day of week.
11When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten,
and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed.
if this is a 1st day sabbath, why are they working on that day.
Paul , like Jesus custom was, preached on the 7th day sabbath about 84 times,
also working as tent maker, keeping sabbath for year and half.
Paul here was giving the others staying behind last minute instructions before leaving
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we do not need a "ministration of death" to teach us this by written command.
if you were going to love your fellow man, what would that look like?
would you maybe, not murder him?
not sleep with his wife?
not steal from him?
and if you were to love your own wife, what would that look like?
would you maybe be sacrificial & devoted to her?
would you possibly not cheat on her? be content with her?
love is the fulfillment of the law.
what, do you think because we are no more under law, that we are "lawless" ?
that we have no idea what is good and what is evil?
so we have to check against some list, because we are incapable of recognizing for ourselves what is righteous?
praise God!
He has done something unheard of for thousands of years: He has created in us a clean heart!
so that our desire now is His desire, that our hands will be clean.
and God alone is praised! not ourselves, puffed up and vain in our own pride.
because He is the one who works in us and it is His own righteousness that manifests in us!
does that spit on the law?
good grief! no! 1,000 times no!
but it fulfills it 1,000 times more than anyone who tries to keep it. who subjects themselves to it again, after having been set free from it and the condemnation it must bring.
the law is good, and it is written on our hearts!
Polycarp
After the death of the apostle John, a disciple of his, Polycarp,
waged a controversy over the Passover-Easter question with the
bishop of Rome, by then leader of the church.
Still later, another disciple of Christ’s true Christianity,
Polycrates, waged a still hotter controversy over the same
Passover-Easter question with another bishop of Rome.
This theological battle was called the Quartodeciman Controversy.
Polycrates contended, as Jesus and the original apostles taught,
that the Passover should be observed in the new Christian form
introduced by Jesus and by the apostle Paul (1 Corinthians 11),
using unleavened bread and wine instead of sacrificing a lamb,
on the eve of the 14th Nisan (first month in the sacred calendar,
occurring in the spring).
But [the Rome church] insisted that it be observed on a Sunday.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartodecimanism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_controversy
Polycarp was a disciple of John the Apostle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarp
also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycrates_of_Ephesus
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Jesus took away the physical ordinances of Israel,including the physical sabbath,so we no longer have to observe that day of rest.
Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
Isa 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
Isa 28:12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
It is a spiritual rest,a spiritual sabbath,in the New Testament by the Holy Spirit,which everyday is observing the sabbath,for when you are led of the Spirit,you have the Spirit,and that spiritual rest everyday.
So it does not matter what day the saints come together,everyday if they want,not only Sunday,which some denominations came together on Wednesday,but nothing is mentioned about that by sabbath keepers,at least I do not know if they do.
Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet.
The Bible says that Paul preached to the Christians the first day of the week,Paul said to gather the collections on the first day of the week.
On the sabbath day Paul went in to the synagogue and the law and the prophets were preached from the Old Testament,then the Rabbi said,whoever has a word of exhortation say on,which Paul stood up and revealed to them the New Testament,and how the Old Testament testifies of the coming of Jesus,and when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue,the Gentiles wanted Paul to preach again the next sabbath concerning Jesus,which the next sabbath day almost the whole city came to hear the word of God,which the Jews did not like it,and were against it(Acts 13:14-45).
Paul did not observe the physical sabbath day,but went in to the synagogues on that day to try to have an opportunity to preach Jesus,and only preached on the sabbath day because we preach everyday,and it was the opportune time to preach to those who believe the Old Testament,and not the New,for they were gathered together.
Act 7:8 And he gave him the covenant of circumcision: and so Abraham begat Isaac, and circumcised him the eighth day; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat the twelve patriarchs.
You forgot to add this part of the message.
Act 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
Act 7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
Act 7:53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
Act 7:54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
Act 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
Act 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
Act 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,
Act 7:58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
Act 7:59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
Act 7:60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.
It was preached going against them concerning the Old Testament,that is a New Testament now,and to abandon the things of the Old Testament that do not apply in the New Testament,and they stoned Stephen.
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Jesus took away the physical ordinances of Israel,including the physical sabbath,so we no longer have to observe that day of rest.
Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
Isa 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
Isa 28:12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
It is a spiritual rest,a spiritual sabbath,in the New Testament by the Holy Spirit,which everyday is observing the sabbath,for when you are led of the Spirit,you have the Spirit,and that spiritual rest everyday.
So it does not matter what day the saints come together,everyday if they want,not only Sunday,which some denominations came together on Wednesday,but nothing is mentioned about that by sabbath keepers,at least I do not know if they do.
Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet.
- Jesus rose on the first day (Sunday) Jesus was crucified and rose on the third day.
- The Holy Spirit was given on Pentecost Acts 2:1, which always falls on a Sunday
- Early Christians referred to Sunday as the Lord's day BECAUSE it was the day Jesus rose from the dead.
- The only example of the Lord's supper being practiced by Christians is in Acts 20:7, on Sunday. If this is not the Lord's supper, as Sabbatarians cannot grant, then there is no example in the Bible of Christians communing.
- "Sunday" is only used in languages such as German, Dutch, and English, whereas Latin-based languages, such as Spanish, Italian, and French use a derivative of the Latin word "Dominica," literally "Lord's Day." So the very notion of the first day of the week having something to do with the sun depends on the language you speak.
The Bible says that Paul preached to the Christians the first day of the week,Paul said to gather the collections on the first day of the week.
On the sabbath day Paul went in to the synagogue and the law and the prophets were preached from the Old Testament,then the Rabbi said,whoever has a word of exhortation say on,which Paul stood up and revealed to them the New Testament,and how the Old Testament testifies of the coming of Jesus,and when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue,the Gentiles wanted Paul to preach again the next sabbath concerning Jesus,which the next sabbath day almost the whole city came to hear the word of God,which the Jews did not like it,and were against it(Acts 13:14-45).
Paul did not observe the physical sabbath day,but went in to the synagogues on that day to try to have an opportunity to preach Jesus,and only preached on the sabbath day because we preach everyday,and it was the opportune time to preach to those who believe the Old Testament,and not the New,for they were gathered together.
Act 7:8 And he gave him the covenant of circumcision: and so Abraham begat Isaac, and circumcised him the eighth day; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat the twelve patriarchs.
You forgot to add this part of the message.
Act 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
Act 7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
Act 7:53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
Act 7:54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
Act 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
Act 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
Act 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,
Act 7:58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
Act 7:59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
Act 7:60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.
It was preached going against them concerning the Old Testament,that is a New Testament now,and to abandon the things of the Old Testament that do not apply in the New Testament,and they stoned Stephen.
Do you believe that the Holy Spirit is God?
In that case you must believe that God does not demand that we must obey the Law.
"It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements:
You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality."
Acts 15:28
In that case you must believe that God does not demand that we must obey the Law.
"It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements:
You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality."
Acts 15:28
the story is told of an American Indian who was brought to New England and shown all the great things of the white man's civilization.
while he was seated at dinner in a great manor, he remarked that he had come by railway, and had seen at the station a sign saying "do not spit on the floor." however, there was all kinds of spit all over the floor. but here in this great house, he said, there is no such sign -- yet the floor is clean!
the unruly servants and guests in a house are given laws they are told to abide by under threat of punishment. but the members of the family are given no such laws, and are under no such threat -- yet, they behave well, while the servants and dishonorable guests misbehave, even though they are under law. why is this so?
what is the purpose of the law, mike?
what have you learned from it?
self-imposed behavior modification?
or something more?
what is salvation? what is redemption?
is it just a "get-out-of-jail-free" card?
i thank you to actually consider and answer these questions.
((though i expect you won't))
Where did I ever doubt that they met on Sabbath?
Now, provide the documents that prove christians didn't met on Sunday.
Here are three early christian writings that prove that christians met on Sunday (documents from the second-century):
1. The Didache (written somewhere between 50-70 AD in Syria): christians definititely kept Sunday.
2. The epistle of Barnaba (written somewhere between 70-130, probably in the zone of Alexandria): christians kept sunday.
3. The letter of Saint Ignatius of Antioch (who was a direct disciple of Saint Peter and of Saint John; his letter was written in 107, when Ignatius was on his way to Rome, in order to be martyrized by the romans): christians kept sunday.... but Ignatius also talked about sabbath.
Now, provide the documents that prove christians didn't met on Sunday.
Here are three early christian writings that prove that christians met on Sunday (documents from the second-century):
1. The Didache (written somewhere between 50-70 AD in Syria): christians definititely kept Sunday.
2. The epistle of Barnaba (written somewhere between 70-130, probably in the zone of Alexandria): christians kept sunday.
3. The letter of Saint Ignatius of Antioch (who was a direct disciple of Saint Peter and of Saint John; his letter was written in 107, when Ignatius was on his way to Rome, in order to be martyrized by the romans): christians kept sunday.... but Ignatius also talked about sabbath.