Cleveland Convention Corruption and Chaos

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Tommy379

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you must have missed my #neverhillary comment above...

honestly it would be better if they -did- abolish primaries than reduce them to the complete farce that these new rules will permit...
Yeah but you never complain about Hillary like you do Trump.
 
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Voldemort

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. . . or the voice of the people has been heard.
It's not really the voice of the people when the minority of people want Trump, and more importantly, the committee decides to change rules to 2020 without it going to a vote. This is bush-league and disgusting.
 
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Voldemort

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Yeah but you never complain about Hillary like you do Trump.
I'm not sure Rachel is required to simultaneously attack Hillary in order to voice her opinion about Trump. Even if Trump and Hillary were married to each other, what is the harm about speaking the facts of one candidate?
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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They are allowed to take a roll call type voice vote, according to the rules, or don't you know that. The 7 state requirement was not met. The one that makes it possible to do a written tally. Your just upset because now they can't delay the convention by a day. They were not going anywhere with it anyway...your just grasping at straws, woe-man.
the seven state petition requirement -was- met...then the deputy chairman claimed that it wasn't because delegates withdraw from the petition...

if it wasn't going to go anywhere then why did they provoke an uproar on the convention floor just to prevent a roll call vote?
if the seven state requirement was not met then why are they refusing to release the names of any of the delegates who withdrew their signatures or even a list of the three states that were supposedly struck from the petition as a result?

what are the trumpists and the party bosses hiding?
 
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Voldemort

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i guess utah also thinks that 'the voice of the people' was calling for party bosses to be able to change any party rules at will at any time between now and 2020...

because that was one of the new rules in the package that was passed without a vote...
If this is true, this is utter filth. I expect the Democrats to do this, just as they rigged the campaign in favor of Hillary over Bernie, but not the Republicans...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Read my reply above for this. No rules broken. No ethical quandary.
there is an ethical travesty just in the content of the new rules that were passed...naturally you completely skipped over the part where i mentioned that...
 
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Voldemort

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It's not really the voice of the people when the minority of people want Trump, and more importantly, the committee decides to change rules to 2020 without it going to a vote. This is bush-league and disgusting.
I meant to include, "if this is true." to "This is bush-league and disgusting".
 

JosephsDreams

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"the seven state petition requirement -was- met...then the deputy chairman claimed that it wasn't because delegates withdraw from the petition..."

So then it wasn't met !!

There was an up roar because they wanted to bull doze their way in.

So because they are not releasing their names this very second means there was foul play?
How do you rationalize things?




 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Yeah but you never complain about Hillary like you do Trump.
as i have pointed out several times...i see no need to do that here because there are no hillary followers on this forum...
 

Tommy379

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I'm not sure Rachel is required to simultaneously attack Hillary in order to voice her opinion about Trump. Even if Trump and Hillary were married to each other, what is the harm about speaking the facts of one candidate?
Hold on now, no one is talking about an act of violence such as attacking Hillary. I only suggested in an earlier post that Rachel vote for Hillary instead of Trump. I can only conclude Rachel may find Hillary Clinton to be more agreeable to Rachel than the Donald as she never complains about Hillary.
 

JosephsDreams

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there is an ethical travesty just in the content of the new rules that were passed...naturally you completely skipped over the part where i mentioned that...
You said it, not me. The new ruled was "passed". Not rammed down anyone's throat with a gun to their head.
No 'make him a offer he can't refuse' here.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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If this is true, this is utter filth. I expect the Democrats to do this, just as they rigged the campaign in favor of Hillary over Bernie, but not the Republicans...
you are right...the republicans have gotten just as bad as the democrats when it comes to corruption and abusing the system...

#nevertrump
#neverhillary
#neverdemocrat
#neverrepublican
 

JosephsDreams

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The republicans suck too, but they suck less them the Dems
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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"the seven state petition requirement -was- met...then the deputy chairman claimed that it wasn't because delegates withdraw from the petition..."

So then it wasn't met !!

There was an up roar because they wanted to bull doze their way in.

So because they are not releasing their names this very second means there was foul play?
How do you rationalize things?




no...the deputy chairman -claimed- the seven state requirement wasn't met...

that claim was made with -absolutely zero evidence-

this kind of thing would not even fly in a PTA meeting...
 

NotmebutHim

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I don't know whether there's an unholy alliance, but I doubt very seriously that Trump would insist that our nation is hopelessly racist and that cops are out to hurt and even kill minorities with impunity.

That's what we're currently getting, and I'm pretty certain that Hillary will give us more of the same.

Just sayin'.
 

Tommy379

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I think at this stage of the game,the way the GOP bosses see it, if the never Trump faction got what they wanted, it would be the end of the party.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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You said it, not me. The new ruled was "passed". Not rammed down anyone's throat with a gun to their head.
No 'make him a offer he can't refuse' here.
i think you have a really bad case of 'not actually reading what you are responding to'...

in the very first post i mentioned that 'almost physical' intimidation was reported by party 'whips' trying to get delegates to withdraw their signatures from the petition... later on reports came out of threats of career ending consequences for those who didn't fall in line...

and as i pointed out...the new rules were passed without a real vote... they were passed by voice vote during an uproar in which the deputy chairman's call that 'the ayes have it' was itself very open to dispute...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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I don't know whether there's an unholy alliance, but I doubt very seriously that Trump would insist that our nation is hopelessly racist and that cops are out to hurt and even kill minorities with impunity.

That's what we're currently getting, and I'm pretty certain that Hillary will give us more of the same.

Just sayin'.
the ditch on the opposite side of the road from the one you are in is -still- a ditch...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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I think at this stage of the game,the way the GOP bosses see it, if the never Trump faction got what they wanted, it would be the end of the party.
even if that is true it should -still- be a totally unrelated issue from the 'party bosses can henceforth change the rules whenever they want' rule that was part of the package the rules committee sent to the convention...

there was a blatant power grab on the part of the RNC...and they did it in collaboration with the trump campaign...

and that is why this is causing a stir outside of the 'never trump' camp as well...it's why ken cuccinelli threw his convention badge on the floor and walked out...it's why one of trump's own fundraisers resigned saying 'we don't do this in america'
 
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Voldemort

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Hold on now, no one is talking about an act of violence such as attacking Hillary. I only suggested in an earlier post that Rachel vote for Hillary instead of Trump. I can only conclude Rachel may find Hillary Clinton to be more agreeable to Rachel than the Donald as she never complains about Hillary.
I see. I'll vouch for Rachel, she appears to dislike Hillary from the posts I've read from her. I'm not saying you personally, but I've seen posters that assume because someone speaks facts that put Trump in a negative light that they love Hillary. This isn't the case at all. One can simply dislike both candidates, even if they emphasize one candidate's name more so than the other.
 
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