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I have worked very hard for years, and still do, not to break into "clinical speak." I slipped up there a little, and almost began to sound like I was addressing a different audience. LOL
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Actually it was not "name calling." I asked if people who read, very plainly, a statement written on a website that made a clear declaration, yet turned right around after reading that statement, and said it actually said something else.... were inbred idiots.
And I am still wondering. They clearly seem to have something wrong with not being able to understand simple written words.
inbdred idiots???? not name calling lol ok willie you umm yeah you got me i cant understand nonsense at all honestly. but again ill skip your comments as well, and you guys can all get back to all the other insults and arguments.
peace to ya there William. inbred idiots is actually a compliment in grace grece land you guys are really fueled since i was last on here looks like you've grown
Actually it was not "name calling." I asked if people who read, very plainly, a statement written on a website that made a clear declaration, yet turned right around after reading that statement, and said it actually said something else.... were inbred idiots.
And I am still wondering. They clearly seem to have something wrong with not being able to understand simple written words.
I have worked very hard for years, and still do, not to break into "clinical speak." I slipped up there a little, and almost began to sound like I was addressing a different audience. LOL
I have thought about that too, how many times this person said. "This is my last argument" and then they would come back immediately with another argument, another thread, more of the same after saying how many times, no more. And how many profiles have been created by the same person? Leaving in a pique and then coming back only to leave again and return once more. It causes me to wonder about the mental stability of such a person. How well do they know themself? If they know themself so little, how well can they truly understand others?
Have you figured out my mental stability? I'm not so sure lately. lol
what are the requirements in jps gospel? if its conditionless then its without law
Have you figured out my mental stability? I'm not so sure lately. lol
also, doesnt he teach were not to confess sin because its impossible for us to sin now? or is that sermon just something I mis heard again. I agree jp wont say lawless grace, but its an unconditional salvation he teaches. just believe doent matter what you do is his message clearly that's why he avoids any condition clearly written in God word. if its impossible to sin, that means there is no law to transgress, which means he is teaching a law less grace
Okay. He did say if I don't get it, it doesn't mean others don't.I don't need to read it I said it, and because you don't understand......so what? simply say your peace and move on to something you have a grasp of, or give your shiny 2 cents, if you don't get something, it doesnt mean others don't....
Agreed. I also know the majority of people are nervous when speaking in front of people -- even those who have become accustom to it. That tends to bring in brief moments of panic while speaking, where I lose my train of thought, panic a bit, and may say something without having a clue of what I said, and, on a rare moment, might even say what I don't even believe.Your very first paragraph exposes a fallacy that seems to negate the premise you are attempting to build your case upon.. As we merely listen to something (and for some here, even as we read), the moment we hear something we don't agree with, the following words are often dismissed or at least "lost" to our considered cognizant absorption.
Consequently, any further listening is already compromised by our foregone presumptions.
The same thing can happen in reading, but there is a stronger chance that a person given to thinking will go back and immediately reread the offending statement... perhaps two or three times in a row. (Smart people often actually reread several pages when confusion of disbelief strike.) This rarely (almost never) happens while listening to a video.
Add to this, the contributing distractions of the speaker's oral delivery, his possible accent or tonal inflection, his demeanor, his style of dress, the setting behind him, and a host of other things, and you get far less of the actual meaning of words delivered, and much more of a uniquely psychologically censored delivery of the information.
The old dodge of "Well, I'm a visual (or, audio) learner." further substantiates this concept, in that much more information is being processed as you watch a video than just the pure, unadulterated facts as written in black and white on a page.
I certainly hope we will. (And I sometimes wonder if God will head-slap us often for our silly notions. lol)LOL...fair enough Lynn...sounds good to me. I do love your humor. You crack me up sometimes when I read your stuff. God bless you. I pray for you and your hubby before the Father when I think of you. Maybe we will live beside one another in heaven some day? I love your heart....
Legalism not grace is a license to sin because doing anything not of faith is sin.
I certainly hope we will. (And I sometimes wonder if God will head-slap us often for our silly notions. lol)
Scripture teaches taking communion unworthily caused sickness and death. No other example in Scripture of this, except for lying to the Holy Spirit.
Scripture teaches that we were healed through Jesus' body being torn. Same as the bread being torn when we take communion.
Scripture teaches that healing is the children's bread. Bread is part of communion.
Sickness is a curse in Deuteronomy, Jesus became a curse for us.
Sickness entered the world through sin. Jesus took sin upon Him.
You're putting these together because they use the same words? Let me do that.....
The dragon has 10 horns which are 10 nations. There are horns on the altar. So if you grab hold of the horns of the altar, you can rule 10 nations.
Healing is the children's bread. I have a loaf of Wonder Bread on my table. That means I have healing right on my table.
Sounds stupid, right? That's because it is.
You either have a lot of nerve or else very little sense to pull a stunt like "eating communion bread brings healing", with ABSOLUTELY NO SCRIPTURE to back it at all.
False Teacher! Your nice demeanor & christianeze personality won't keep you from reaping what you sow! Joseph Prince does exactly the same thing..... he acts very humble & gentlemanly while tossing out christianeze phrases & say it's in the Bible. And you swallow it without a second thought.
To the hypergracers..... when you publish forth the teachings of a heretic, you will reap his judgment for you spread his lies for him. Ignorance will not excuse you at the Great White Throne Judgment.
I think what cee provided does show they were sick because of not taking communion properly, though I'm not sure it all ties together. yet, even with those verses, I still see no teaching that taking communion brings healing, when the word is clear about laying hands on the sick, and prayer from those Gifted to have healing power through the spirit....
1 Corinthians 12:7-11 "Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another GIFTS OF HEALING by that one Spirit, to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[SUP] [/SUP]and to still another the interpretation of tongues.[SUP] [/SUP]All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines."
to me, you cant teach what isn't there is the issue I had woth this to begin with. because they were sick from improperly taking communion, DOES NOT say that taking communion is your healing at all. that's how false doctrines get going we take what is not there and spread it, meanwhile the word is designed by the Lord. There are those in the church that do have the power to heal through the spirit, for the good of the church. we are so far apart in our hearts because no one will just learn and accept How God said it is. there is a reason the church has different gifts for different people, because we are suppose to Love each other and be unified, He has equipped us one to do this, another to do that, so that if we come together, we have all we need.
Healing does not come through communion according to Gods word, that's my issue when a pastor who all these people have trust in, teaches what he made up from obscure scriptures and had to connect it with His understanding. there is no such teaching in the word of God. as many of this guys teachings, they have an appearance of truth, but do not hold water when compared to the word
Legalism not grace is a license to sin because doing anything not of faith is sin.
You nor I know every dynamic that the ACT of communion brings.
It was at the breaking of the bread that the disciples recognized Jesus. Jesus said " healing is the children's bread",and "this is my body which is broken" concerning the bread. " by his stripes you are healed" SPEAKING OF THE BODY (bread). "I am the BREAD of life"
" unless you eat my flesh,and drink my blood,you can not be my disciple"
There is Nothing there? Really?
We may not hit the connection with a bulls eye,but to say Prince is a heretic,when you guys get a good schooling in the bible of stuff you didn't even know was there,is ridiculous.
Communion is not one dimensional.
Defining its benefits is not a mental exercise. Especially when I do not see one anti prince post that comes close to unpacking the dynamics of communion using,the "body", "blood","bread" healing typology/exegesis.
Healing will never be mentally unpacked.
It is a sovereign work if heaven.
But God is a team player,with a passion for types.
We are co workers.
Prince is unpacking WHAT IS THERE,NOT WHAT IS NOT THERE.
it is the bible. It is full of mystery
yes, actually if its not taught in Gods word, its not true. there is a teaching about healing, a few actually, but not one of them is you will be healed if you take communion. so yeah if a person knows Gods word, they have the truth. that's why its there to learn. Gods written word is the ONLY thing that we have to go by. if it isn't there, we have to listen to mans thinking, as soon as someone decides well we don't need to trust what God says, that will lead astray any who accept it. God is good though, so he recorded everything we need to know in order to keep what we learn, accurate to his word.
this guy teaches his own thinking, and it doesn't Hold water, need to decide where loyalty lies. with Gods word, or with the other ways men invent and yoke to His name. how often is Joseph prince teaching what Jesus taught? give to the poor, consider yourselves unworthy servant even when you've done all that is expected of you? rid yourself of sin, obey my commands, hardly anything Jesus taught people, is taught by this guy. He is selling books and people are gobbling it up because his way is easy to want to accept, just like eve wanted that fruit, the enemy gave her the option. there is 1 way. Gods way, and there is whatever opposes it. faith is holding to Gods word, using it as the standard of what He actually said. without it our trust is in what someone else sees and knows and tells us. Gotts stick to the wword that's why He purposely recorded and preserved it.
everything this guy teaches is to support how your already finished, he claims paul taught that lol yet paul was always saying press forward, strain toward the gosal to wiun the prize for which Christ took hold of us, he always refers back to follow my example, this guy who supposedly taught grace, was constantly working for God in obedience because he never taught this costless grace that requires no true commitment to God. He taught the same things as Jesus, with different words.