So what about the fourth commandment?
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Pick a day to keep the Sabbath, but don't trust in the keeping of the Sabbath as a requirement for salvation. The Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath. In all the new testament nowhere does any of the writers proclaim the keeping of the Sabbath as a requirement for salvation. You'd think that if the keeping of the Sabbath was a requirement for salvation that it would at least be mentioned somewhere within the letters to the seven churches. Yet, the word Sabbath does not even appear in the book of Revelation at all. Please don't retort by telling my that you are not saying that the keeping of the Sabbath is a requirement for salvation. The fact that you are promoting the Sabbath and the rest of the law proves otherwise.
If you want to keep the Sabbath, pick a day, but don't consider the keeping of it as a means of obtaining salvation, for that is where the error arises.
If you want to keep the Sabbath, pick a day, but don't consider the keeping of it as a means of obtaining salvation, for that is where the error arises.
Amen, by the faith of Christ, the faith generated by and through God hat worked in them to both will and do the good pleasure of our God. Not in respect to their own faith generated by their own heart and fleshly mind in a hope that shadows could be the substance of eternal life .And not the work of Christ's faith as his eternal labor of love in which we do rest in.
There are certain teachings that are eternal life threatening and the trusting of the law as a requirement for salvation and your promotion of it is one of them. Another example of an eternal life threatening teaching would be to claim that the resurrection has already taken place. So "Yes" your promotion of the law is a false teaching and because of this you are lost until you believe and repent. If you say that you believe, but continue to promote the law, then you are only deceiving yourself. You can't be saved by grace through faith and by works at the same time for they are in opposition to one another. You are making the same mistake that Israel was and is making:
"What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; but the people of Israel, who pursued the law as the way of righteousness, have not attained their goal. Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone."
Therefore, you and everyone else who is promoting the keeping of the law as a means for salvation, like Israel, will not obtain the goal of righteousness before God, because you are persuing it by not by faith, but as if were by works. You-- like Israel-- have stumbled over the stumbling stone.
"What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; but the people of Israel, who pursued the law as the way of righteousness, have not attained their goal. Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone."
Therefore, you and everyone else who is promoting the keeping of the law as a means for salvation, like Israel, will not obtain the goal of righteousness before God, because you are persuing it by not by faith, but as if were by works. You-- like Israel-- have stumbled over the stumbling stone.
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The double-talk is where in your illustration it says, "He sent His Son to [get rid] of the law. That is a distortion of what we have been claiming to you. Now, here are the commands that the NT testament is referring to:
"Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us."
Every time you see the word "commands," you immediately interpret it as the commands given contained in the law of Moses. You use the word for the purpose of supporting your position. By the way, we can't become holy by obeying commands, but by the indwelling of the Spirit who sanctifies each believer in Christ. We are being transformed into his image, taking on his characteristics which are the fruits of the Spirit.
"Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us."
Every time you see the word "commands," you immediately interpret it as the commands given contained in the law of Moses. You use the word for the purpose of supporting your position. By the way, we can't become holy by obeying commands, but by the indwelling of the Spirit who sanctifies each believer in Christ. We are being transformed into his image, taking on his characteristics which are the fruits of the Spirit.
Yeah. The book your quoteing does say obsolete. However the bible does not even come close to saying that. Verse 13- Hebrews 8 was written AFTER the crucified Christ and the scripture clearly says that the old covenant (10 commandments) is WAXING OLD and GETTING READY to vanish. Aint vanished yet! Its still to be followed. Yes there are some books that claim the ten are obsolete but the bible does not. In them same books youll find in Hebrews 4 the name of Jesus being change to Joshua for the same reason.
Yup disciplemike
JOHN 14 [15] If ye love me, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS.[16] AND I WILL PRAY THE FATHER, AND HE SHALL GIVE YOU ANOTHER COMFORTER, that he may abide with you for ever;[17] Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.[18] I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.[19] Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.[20] At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.[21] HE THAT HATH MY COMMANDMENTS, AND KEEPETH THEM, HE IT IS THAT LOVETH ME: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I WILL LOVE HIM, AND WILL MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM.
You cant even get the Spirit of truth unless you observe to keep the 10 commandments.
JOHN 14 [15] If ye love me, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS.[16] AND I WILL PRAY THE FATHER, AND HE SHALL GIVE YOU ANOTHER COMFORTER, that he may abide with you for ever;[17] Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.[18] I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.[19] Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.[20] At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.[21] HE THAT HATH MY COMMANDMENTS, AND KEEPETH THEM, HE IT IS THAT LOVETH ME: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I WILL LOVE HIM, AND WILL MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM.
You cant even get the Spirit of truth unless you observe to keep the 10 commandments.
And here are those commands again for those who can't read and understand scripture (Wall & disciple Mike):
"And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us."
So, the commands that he is speaking of are not referring to the ten commandments or the law given to Moses, but the commands are to believe in the One whom He sent and to love one another.
"And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us."
So, the commands that he is speaking of are not referring to the ten commandments or the law given to Moses, but the commands are to believe in the One whom He sent and to love one another.
