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Yeraza_Bats

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Well, the belief that the universe exploded itself into existence, that life formed itself and then improved upon itself despite already being self sufficient and that all things just came about on their own will with no planning or thought process at all, all to luckily fall into perfect balance, in a way that sustains life somehow, is a very logical belief, yes.

Luckily, you have science to back up those beliefs. Infallible science, it can never be wrong or lacking in things that man cant comprehend on their own.

Sometimes I look at the four walls surrounding me in my bedroom, and am just astounded at how they built themselves up on their own, all from one brick. Its amazing how the universe around us just does that.
 
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isaiah100

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If that makes you feel better, then great. Don't let me or anyone else stop you.

I'm an atheist because I like supporting views and beliefs which are supported by the evidence I and others can observe. That way, I'm not bound to a book which just really isn't 100% truth. It has lots of really disturbing stuff in it as well, which I'd like to avoid. I can find my own groups from which to gain those same means of support.

On the flip side, I get to opt-out of science-denial, people who think natural sexuality should be punishable, etc. etc., all for a friend who by all the logic I can see is illogical to believe in.

I'll give you guys this though. You have changed my mind about whether this is a good use of my time. Have a good day, all of you.
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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I've already tried out the atheist life.
Hopeless and depressing.
Don't really want to go back.
I find much strength and serinity in the Lord
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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It really isn't a good use of time....
If you would open up your mind to our beliefs it might be a good use if time but trying to "teach" Christians and false teachings is not a good use of time.... sorry....
 

Yeraza_Bats

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I'm an atheist because I like supporting views and beliefs which are supported by the evidence I and others can observe. That way, I'm not bound to a book which just really isn't 100% truth. It has lots of really disturbing stuff in it as well, which I'd like to avoid. I can find my own groups from which to gain those same means of support.
I would be more than happy to have a conversation with on on the issue of sexuality, but I dont think you plan on being around to discuss, and didnt come here to do such a thing to begin with.

As for guiding others to your revelation here, its not new to the Christian community, the bible mentions those who claim "there is no God", weve been dealing with people with your world view since ancient times : p You have nothing new to reveal to us that we havent already heard : p
 
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isaiah100

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Last response here, then I need to sleep.

Here's the thing: I don't claim to know where the universe came from. At least, not yet. The big bang theory is a step in the right direction in my and many other people's minds, but there's still a LOT we don't know. But here's the thing: I don't think the Bible is any more a reasonable justification than saying that we don't know yet.

Filling gaps in our understanding of the world with "A guy in the sky did it" has historically not gone too well, and I don't think it's a good path to pursue.

Nobody says science is infallible. Science by definition corrects itself. Unlike the Bible, which still says the moon generates light and the sky is made of water. (Seriously.)

The beauty of science is that when we learn something new, we can revise old theories to fit.
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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Last response here, then I need to sleep.

Here's the thing: I don't claim to know where the universe came from. At least, not yet. The big bang theory is a step in the right direction in my and many other people's minds, but there's still a LOT we don't know. But here's the thing: I don't think the Bible is any more a reasonable justification than saying that we don't know yet.

Filling gaps in our understanding of the world with "A guy in the sky did it" has historically not gone too well, and I don't think it's a good path to pursue.

Nobody says science is infallible. Science by definition corrects itself. Unlike the Bible, which still says the moon generates light and the sky is made of water. (Seriously.)

The beauty of science is that when we learn something new, we can revise old theories to fit.
Have you read Lee Strobel?
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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STRONGLY STRONGLY STRONGLY recommend you reading some of his books
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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And it gives both sides as well so as long as you have an OPEN MIND I think it would be great for you to read them
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Here's the thing: I don't claim to know where the universe came from. At least, not yet. The big bang theory is a step in the right direction in my and many other people's minds, but there's still a LOT we don't know. But here's the thing: I don't think the Bible is any more a reasonable justification than saying that we don't know yet.

Filling gaps in our understanding of the world with "A guy in the sky did it" has historically not gone too well, and I don't think it's a good path to pursue.
You say there is still alot we dont know, and yet you tell us that you have taken the stance that theres absolutely no God at all whatsoever. So youve still taken a stance despite admitting you dont know.

Though youve taken the old athiest reasoning to get away from even questioning it, "a man in the sky did it". Because that is what the God of Abraham claimed to be. A man who lives in our sky. Totally not a being unlike any other who existed before anything we can see and touch.

We live in an age where we can say "oh yeah, alien life forms definitely exist, it would be silly to believe that we are the only life in the universe", but the belief of a life form not of flesh and blood with capabilities that we just dont have, foolishness.

And I know for a fact that God is the truth. I have been shown where I was going, and what I experienced lines up with whats in that old book. You can either follow the writings of those who were chosen to record what they were shown ages ago, or you can follow those who use their ability to rationalize to come up with an alternative explanation based on nothing more than what they can see with their own eyes. But one day youll be held to those warnings.
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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You say there is still alot we dont know, and yet you tell us that you have taken the stance that theres absolutely no God at all whatsoever. So youve still taken a stance despite admitting you dont know.

Though youve taken the old athiest reasoning to get away from even questioning it, "a man in the sky did it". Because that is what the God of Abraham claimed to be. A man who lives in our sky. Totally not a being unlike any other who existed before anything we can see and touch.

We live in an age where we can say "oh yeah, alien life forms definitely exist, it would be silly to believe that we are the only life in the universe", but the belief of a life form not of flesh and blood with capabilities that we just dont have, foolishness.

And I know for a fact that God is the truth. I have been shown where I was going, and what I experienced lines up with whats in that old book. You can either follow the writings of those who were chosen to record what they were shown ages ago, or you can follow those who use their ability to rationalize to come up with an alternative explanation based on nothing more than what they can see with their own eyes. But one day youll be held to those warnings.
Round of applause
 

EmilyNats

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I'm not even sure what is goi g on anymore, or what the subject is, but I just wanted to take this time to say Good jobs everyone! *hands put cheese sticks and pickles*
 
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it isnt hard to be perfect, y'all make it seem like it is impossible when in reality it isnt.
All you have to do is DO NOT GIVE INTO SIN!
So, the way you are talking to people right now is considered what?

"Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you."

Also, "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."
Saying you are perfect and haven't done wrong, then Jesus' death on the cross was done in vain and it was basically pointless. I mean, after all, you aren't in need of a Savior since you are practically perfect. You said so yourself, "It isn't hard to be perfect."
 
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Simeon

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And it gives both sides as well so as long as you have an OPEN MIND I think it would be great for you to read them
I have read Strobel, and honnestly i was far from impressed... it is full of incorrect statements and logical falacies... really, strobel is not the best you can do, he is a bit of a joke. A better one would be William Lane Craig for example, or John Lennox.

i also recomend a book by an author called Guy Harrison called 50 simple questions for every christians.
 
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abru

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I have never seen a seemingly harmless peace offering turn members on each other. It is my opinion, but I think this thread, as ugly had suggested earlier on, is disseminating Atheist ideals unoticably. Let me start by asking this, Isaiah100, why are you here? I mean, why would an atheist make himself available for questions in a christian chat? Whether it was your intention or not, it looked nothing less than a recruitment effort. I am not being defensive, but I have seen harsh words thrown around here and I feel obligated to investigate the begining, which is your now famous "I come in peace" speech.
 
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Tintin

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Well, I came across the realization that my beliefs weren't based on any real logic or evidence. So I stopped believing. Not much more to say than that.
Christianity forms the foundation for logic and reason and good and evil and truth. And wait for it, the scientific method was a Christian invention.
 
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Simeon

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I have never seen a seemingly harmless peace offering turn members on each other. It is my opinion, but I think this thread, as ugly had suggested earlier on, is disseminating Atheist ideals unoticably. Let me start by asking this, Isaiah100, why are you here? I mean, why would an atheist make himself available for questions in a christian chat? Whether it was your intention or not, it looked nothing less than a recruitment effort. I am not being defensive, but I have seen harsh words thrown around here and I feel obligated to investigate the begining, which is your now famous "I come in peace" speech.
well, maybe he thought he had something to share... if you believe you are right, wouldn't you want to share that truth with people you perceive are wrong? he probably thinks that what he is saying makes a lot of sense and that just discussing the arguments in a peaceful manner would force the truth to emerge... i can't say i can blame him really
it is fairly close minded to refuse to discuss with people we disagree with... or to dismiss them out of hand because we are certain they are wrong before we even heard what they had to say...
 
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popeye

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Last response here, then I need to sleep.

Here's the thing: I don't claim to know where the universe came from. At least, not yet. The big bang theory is a step in the right direction in my and many other people's minds, but there's still a LOT we don't know. But here's the thing: I don't think the Bible is any more a reasonable justification than saying that we don't know yet.

Filling gaps in our understanding of the world with "A guy in the sky did it" has historically not gone too well, and I don't think it's a good path to pursue.

Nobody says science is infallible. Science by definition corrects itself. Unlike the Bible, which still says the moon generates light and the sky is made of water. (Seriously.)

The beauty of science is that when we learn something new, we can revise old theories to fit.
Atheism is a religion.

Your bible is Darwin's origin of species.
Your churches are the public schools where your priests teach from your bible
Your congregation is all america's children
Your blood sacrifice is the unborn innocent children
Your God is self worship/"science" ....even your science is faith science.(asking a human being to believe the impossible...evolution)

Your false prophets are the media and secular humanism?situational ethics teachers and professors.
 
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Tintin

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If that makes you feel better, then great. Don't let me or anyone else stop you.

I'm an atheist because I like supporting views and beliefs which are supported by the evidence I and others can observe. That way, I'm not bound to a book which just really isn't 100% truth. It has lots of really disturbing stuff in it as well, which I'd like to avoid. I can find my own groups from which to gain those same means of support.

On the flip side, I get to opt-out of science-denial, people who think natural sexuality should be punishable, etc. etc., all for a friend who by all the logic I can see is illogical to believe in.

I'll give you guys this though. You have changed my mind about whether this is a good use of my time. Have a good day, all of you.
Where is this evidence you observe, please? And just because something is disturbing, it doesn't mean it's not truth. Besides, the Bible is a book of history. It records history. There are some things that don't make sense to our 21st-century minds and that's okay, this is an ancient book. And there are plenty of despicable acts of violence etc. that take place within the pages and they're not endorsed. They're recorded. Because history. As for Christians being science-deniers, we're not. The scientific method itself was a Christian invention. Finally, there's nothing natural about abnormal sexualities. God made Adam for Eve and Eve for Adam. This was a foreshadow of the one, eternal relationship for all time between God and His people - Jesus as the Last Adam and the Church as His Bride.