Olympic scandal

[Dude653]

Ryan Lochte, Brazil police disagree over robbery story - CNN.com
Allegedly Brian Lochte made a false police report about being robbed at a gas station. Lochte and to others where are accused of vandalizing a gas station bathroom despite the fact that camera footage shows no sign of damage. The three men were held at gunpoint security who demanded $50....Lochte claims that no one at the scene spoke English so he did not know why the man was demanding $50. Lochte was not criminally charged but was required to donate $11,000 to an unnamed charity in order to have his passport returned. This reeks of setup. It sounds to me like Brazilian officials extorted them for money. In my opinion this is unacceptable and should maybe even be considered an act of War

 

[WarriorForChrist]

Ryan Lochte, Brazil police disagree over robbery story - CNN.com
Allegedly Brian Lochte made a false police report about being robbed at a gas station. Lochte and to others where are accused of vandalizing a gas station bathroom despite the fact that camera footage shows no sign of damage. The three men were held at gunpoint security who demanded $50....Lochte claims that no one at the scene spoke English so he did not know why the man was demanding $50. Lochte was not criminally charged but was required to donate $11,000 to an unnamed charity in order to have his passport returned. This reeks of setup. It sounds to me like Brazilian officials extorted them for money. In my opinion this is unacceptable and should maybe even be considered an act of War

Actually they did lie about what happened. They vandalized a gas station and the security stopped them. There is a video of them at the gas station where it all happened. Their biggest crime was giving a false statement to authorities.

An act of War? Where do you come up with this stuff?

 

[Dude653]

It sounds to me like extortion. No damage was shown on camera footage. The alleged charity was not named.... sounds pretty fishy to me

 

[WarriorForChrist]

It sounds to me like extortion. No damage was shown on camera footage. The alleged charity was not named.... sounds pretty fishy to me

From what I read it is in their laws that this is done. I think they would rather pay for charity than go to jail for the crimes they committed.

What is sad is some of those swimmers had a big future in swimming for the US. I'm guessing now they won't be able to swim in the olympics again.

 

[emjcares]

From what I read it is in their laws that this is done. I think they would rather pay for charity than go to jail for the crimes they committed.

What is sad is some of those swimmers had a big future in swimming for the US. I'm guessing now they won't be able to swim in the olympics again.

^Interesting concept regarding justice/penalty.^ Charity. Hmmh, I have to think about that one. Interesting.
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What gets me is these folks must know there's cameras on them 24/7 especially in Rio, and they have there movements recorded, slowed down, zoomed in and scrutinized, even under water, lol!
How did they not think that every thing they do in Rio would be seen?

 

[Dude653]

This is clearly an extortion case and should be investigated as such. The item they allegedly vandalized was not specified. How much damage could you really do just with your bare hands. If anything was vandalized it would most likely cost more than $50 to repair. No damage was visible on camera footage. Also I am told told Brazil has a reputation for a corrupt government and human rights violations. Our government should demand that the money be returned or we consider this an act of war and cut off all economic ties

 

[WarriorForChrist]

This is clearly an extortion case and should be investigated as such. The item they allegedly vandalized was not specified. How much damage could you really do just with your bare hands. If anything was vandalized it would most likely cost more than $50 to repair. No damage was visible on camera footage. Also I am told told Brazil has a reputation for a corrupt government and human rights violations. Our government should demand that the money be returned or we consider this an act of war and cut off all economic ties

They broke a door to the bathroom, broke a mirror in the bathroom and ripped off the soap dispenser in the bathroom. Those crimes aren't the issue. The issue is they lied to law enforcement. And for you to say this is an act of war is totally ridiculous. This is a criminal matter not an action that incites war. I really don't know where you come up with this stuff.

One minute you are defending criminals here in the US and attacking law enforcement officers for excessive force and now you are saying we should declare war on a country because of criminals and use excessive force on that country.

 

[Willie-T]

Of course it is extortion. And, we all know the "charity" is the government, and maybe the owner of the store. So what? If they did pee all over the floor in the bathroom, and if they also vandalized some things.... though it all probably only amounted to about $5 damage... they should be glad to be able to get off with only that "fine."

Our Olympians carry a huge responsibility in foreign lands. They simply do not have the liberty to act like spoiled brats.

 

[Dude653]

Of course it is extortion. And, we all know the "charity" is the government, and maybe the owner of the store. So what? If they did pee all over the floor in the bathroom, and if they also vandalized some things.... though it all probably only amounted to about $5 damage... they should be glad to be able to get off with only that "fine."

Our Olympians carry a huge responsibility in foreign lands. They simply do not have the liberty to act like spoiled brats.

I agree. Olympic athletes are held to a very high standard and know they have to be on their best behavior in another country. Our government should demand that every time of this money be returned

 

[Willie-T]

I agree. Olympic athletes are held to a very high standard and know they have to be on their best behavior in another country. Our government should demand that every time of this money be returned

WHAT?!?!?!?!? How in the world do you figure that?

 

[Dude653]

WHAT?!?!?!?!? How in the world do you figure that?

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Don't let me be president because they would pay back every dime of his money with interest. Economic sanctions usually tend to get people's attention.

 

[Willie-T]

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Don't let me be president because they would pay back every dime of his money with interest. Economic sanctions usually tend to get people's attention.

That's nuts. "I'm an idiot, and got myself in a jamb, so the "Daddy" government has to come bail me out." That's BLM thinking.

 

[hornetguy]

I agree. Olympic athletes are held to a very high standard and know they have to be on their best behavior in another country. Our government should demand that every time of this money be returned

That's just crazy.

And you wonder why Americans are despised in other countries? Called "ugly Americans"?

If you are visiting another country, it is YOUR responsibility to respect and follow their laws.

If peeing on the floor is grounds for one year in jail, you better not pee on the floor, even if it's overlooked in OUR country..

The arrogance of some people is astounding....

 

[WarriorForChrist]

That's just crazy.

And you wonder why Americans are despised in other countries? Called "ugly Americans"?

If you are visiting another country, it is YOUR responsibility to respect and follow their laws.

If peeing on the floor is grounds for one year in jail, you better not pee on the floor, even if it's overlooked in OUR country..

The arrogance of some people is astounding....

Once again Dude sides with the criminals. Leads me to think maybe he has something in his past he is upset about?

 

[Dude653]

Once again Dude sides with the criminals. Leads me to think maybe he has something in his past he is upset about?

The Brazilians are the real criminals here. That country has a reputation for corrupt government and human rights violations. No legitimate law enforcement agency Demands a charity payment as restitution for a crime

 

[WarriorForChrist]

The Brazilians are the real criminals here. That country has a reputation for corrupt government and human rights violations. No legitimate law enforcement agency Demands a charity payment as restitution for a crime

I agree with you that it has its issues. But that doesn't excuse anyone from doing what those swimmers did. When I was in the military we went overseas to train with other countries. We were given a class before we went on their customs and their laws. We were also told if we break any of the laws of that country we would be accountable to that country and when we got back we would be accountable to military laws.

I'm sure these Olympic athletes were given a similar class and were told to not put themselves in a situation that would require the US to step in and help them.

 

[Desdichado]

The Brazilians are the real criminals here. That country has a reputation for corrupt government and human rights violations. No legitimate law enforcement agency Demands a charity payment as restitution for a crime

Brazil is without question a Marxist state. I also don't think there is any disputing that Rio in particular is a dangerous and corrupt basket case of a city. Our media's haste to castigate the swimmers in order to support the regime is also disgusting

But if there is something any country has a right to enforce, it's their laws on the books for vandalism and slander. I would go so far as to say if an American was found peeing on the wall of a Soviet gas station in the 80's, he'd deserve whatever he got.

Ideally, I think the Brazilian law enforcement should work with the FBI or US Marshals on this or at least allow some sort of oversight to ensure the fair and just treatment of American citizens.

But again, that's the ideal. I wouldn't trust the US government under this administration to do anything right by it's own citizen.

 

[Desdichado]

Once again Dude sides with the criminals. Leads me to think maybe he has something in his past he is upset about?

I think he has good reason to be skeptical in this case. I mean we're talking the Rio police department, not the Knox County Sheriff.

 

[WarriorForChrist]

I think he has good reason to be skeptical in this case. I mean we're talking the Rio police department, not the Knox County Sheriff.

I can agree with this as well. But what they said in their first statements doesn't line up with what the video shows. The FBI is involved with this case and I'm sure they are looking at the same evidence the LEO's in Rio are looking at. If the FBI saw anything that differed from what the RIO LEO's saw I'm sure they would have said something. I don't trust our government, but this is different than some tourists just visiting down there and acting out.

 

[Willie-T]

The Brazilians are the real criminals here. That country has a reputation for corrupt government and human rights violations. No legitimate law enforcement agency Demands a charity payment as restitution for a crime

We have all sorts of judges (good ones) right here in this country who hand out sentences all the time for people to do community/charity work or to give "donations" to charities. You see it in the news on a regular basis.... and those judges are lauded as wise and progressive. Which, I think, they are.