Donald Trump, Wavering on Immigration, Finds Anger in All Corners

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I honestly believe that immigration is the single most important thing we need to get under control. Trump says that he is going to do the right thing regarding immigration and I believe him and agree with him.

Trump doubles down on call to slow Muslim immigration
I wonder how Trumps base will feel If Trump softens his stance on Immigration.

I heard someone say,he will soften up to get votes and then he will do what he said he would do after he gets In office.
 

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The sad thing is, the Hispanics think they will benefit by voting Hillary. They will eventually find out no decent working class people is a winner with her in office. But it will be to late by then. That is a time worn tactic of the devil. Entice them with something that looks so good in the short term, but destroys them in the long run.
This country is losing it's soul.
 
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I wonder how Trumps base will feel If Trump softens his stance on Immigration.

I heard someone say,he will soften up to get votes and then he will do what he said he would do after he gets In office.
What do you want Trump to do? That is what you should be asking. I seriously don't even know why I waste my time responding to you. Do you type your posts here from the Hillary booth you man at your local county fair?
 
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Granted I'm not Hispanic, but I'd like to think that if I was, I'd be in favor of Trump's original immigration policy.

Parasitic white collar criminals hire illegal immigrants (like the Polish immigrants who built Trump Tower) and pay them pennies on the dollar. By allowing illegal immigration, two things happen:

1.) fewer jobs for legal Hispanics (and other people in general)
2.) the demand for work is lower due to the supply of so many [illegal] workers, thus, lower wages for the same job (white collar criminals pay pennies on the dollar for illegals).

I'm fine with a wall being built, but this just gives the illusion of security. It's like putting your great dane dog in the backyard with a 6 inch fence and expecting him to not being able to get over/around/under it. The greatest thing we could do to stop illegal immigration isn't building a wall, it's cracking down on the white collar criminals!!!
 
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The sad thing is, the Hispanics think they will benefit by voting Hillary. They will eventually find out no decent working class people is a winner with her in office. But it will be to late by then. That is a time worn tactic of the devil. Entice them with something that looks so good in the short term, but destroys them in the long run.
This country is losing it's soul.
This country has already lost it's soul. After decades of allowing corrupt and self-serving politicians in all offices of government (in both parties) run this country to where it is today, there is no way "We the people" are going to get it back. That is what greed and complacency has bred, and the fact that "We the people" allowed it to happen due to lack of true checks and balances, among other systems of protections afforded us.
 
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What do you want Trump to do? That is what you should be asking.
I want Trump to tell the truth and the truth does not change.Would you agree?

I don't think he even has a plan.




Here comes deflection.
 

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There are two reasons that we have illegal immigration across the southern border. The first is the US's insatiable need for illegal drugs. The only way that we are going to stop that type is to dry up the need. The other reason is to escape the violence and poverty of the immigrant. All I can say is that if I were living where they live, I would take every possible chance that I could to get my family across the border. The only solution to this problem is a massive clean up of the corruption in the countries south of the border.

Should we build a wall? I doubt that it will have a significant impact on the northern illegal migration. It will have no impact on the criminals arriving here.

Should we deport each and every illegal immigrant here? Would it be cost effective? I'm not sure that it is worth the effort. I am more inclined to tax the country of origin's assets in the US to pay for the care of those here.
 
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Granted I'm not Hispanic, but I'd like to think that if I was, I'd be in favor of Trump's original immigration policy.

Parasitic white collar criminals hire illegal immigrants (like the Polish immigrants who built Trump Tower) and pay them pennies on the dollar. By allowing illegal immigration, two things happen:

1.) fewer jobs for legal Hispanics (and other people in general)
2.) the demand for work is lower due to the supply of so many [illegal] workers, thus, lower wages for the same job (white collar criminals pay pennies on the dollar for illegals).

I'm fine with a wall being built, but this just gives the illusion of security. It's like putting your great dane dog in the backyard with a 6 inch fence and expecting him to not being able to get over/around/under it. The greatest thing we could do to stop illegal immigration isn't building a wall, it's cracking down on the white collar criminals!!!
When Trump built that tower and even today all big construction has many illegals working and on some sites now you cannot hire on as a construction supervisor, unless you can speak Spanish ...its insane and needs to stop. The illegal immigration and trade bad trade deals supported by both parties has destroyed the working American. Trump is the ONLY politician in our time that has even bothered to address these issues in a way that one might believe he will actually do something...I'm convinced he will
 
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When Trump built that tower and even today all big construction has many illegals working and on some sites now you cannot hire on as a construction supervisor, unless you can speak Spanish ...its insane and needs to stop. The illegal immigration and trade bad trade deals supported by both parties has destroyed the working American. Trump is the ONLY politician in our time that has even bothered to address these issues in a way that one might believe he will actually do something...I'm convinced he will
The only part I can criticize Trump on about immigration is his refusal to address white collar criminals. I like what he has said, but he's failed to address the biggest variable worth addressing to stop illegal immigration.

When you go camping in an area known to have many bears, you would know not to leave food out in the open. Why? Well, bears will be attracted to your site... if you don't want bears to visit you, don't give them a reason to come over. This is elementary level logic. By being just as strict on the white collar criminals who hire illegal immigrants as they are on other criminals, illegal immigrants will not have a reason to come to the country illegally (no work).
 
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The only part I can criticize Trump on about immigration is his refusal to address white collar criminals. I like what he has said, but he's failed to address the biggest variable worth addressing to stop illegal immigration.

When you go camping in an area known to have many bears, you would know not to leave food out in the open. Why? Well, bears will be attracted to your site... if you don't want bears to visit you, don't give them a reason to come over. This is elementary level logic. By being just as strict on the white collar criminals who hire illegal immigrants as they are on other criminals, illegal immigrants will not have a reason to come to the country illegally (no work).
White collar crime is too difficult to investigate. Besides, due to the corruption which is taking place on almost every level, it rarely ever even appear illegal. Busting drug addicts is way easier and makes safe convictions and everybody is happy...
 
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I want Trump to tell the truth and the truth does not change.Would you agree?

I don't think he even has a plan.




Here comes deflection.

Tell the truth about what? You've been voting for democrats all these years and now suddenly you want the truth? I don't think you can handle the truth.
 
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I found this comment on a news article and it is just too good not to share here. Give special consideration to number 8. And if you think that you somehow get a pass on what that could potentially mean for you and your family members or whatever, you are a fool. The point is that every christian man woman and child should be putting their support behind Trump, unless they don't like our constitution, principles, freedoms, rule of law and fairness....of opportunity for all men and women etc etc. Our chickens of apathy are coming home to roost and we are gonna lose it all if anyone remotely resembling Hillary gets in there.


Obama and Clinton have sold the entire U.S. middle class down the river. Our survival is dependent on supporting Trump because:
1. Trump did not increase our debt to $20 trillion.
2. Trump did not ruin our credit.
3. Trump did not double African-American unemployment.
4. Trump did not increase welfare to a record level for eight solid years.
5. Trump did not sign a law making it legal to execute and imprison Americans without due process.
6. Trump did not set free all the terrorists in Guantanamo Bay to return to the field of battle.
7. Trump did not constantly degrade civil rights, violate U.S. constitutional law, or commit treason.
8. Trump has not imported terrorist by the millions and forced taxpayers to fund their own demise.

It is Barack Hussein Obama, Hillary Clinton, and the established grifters who accomplished the above. The Obama/Clinton cult have illegally occupied our government and swiped our future and that of our progeny. Donald Trump will END the nefarious practices listed above.
Trump/Pence 2016 - our survival depends on it!
 
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I found this comment on a news article and it is just too good not to share here. Give special consideration to number 8. And if you think that you somehow get a pass on what that could potentially mean for you and your family members or whatever, you are a fool. The point is that every christian man woman and child should be putting their support behind Trump, unless they don't like our constitution, principles, freedoms, rule of law and fairness....of opportunity for all men and women etc etc. Our chickens of apathy are coming home to roost and we are gonna lose it all if anyone remotely resembling Hillary gets in there.


Obama and Clinton have sold the entire U.S. middle class down the river. Our survival is dependent on supporting Trump because:
1. Trump did not increase our debt to $20 trillion.
2. Trump did not ruin our credit.
3. Trump did not double African-American unemployment.
4. Trump did not increase welfare to a record level for eight solid years.
5. Trump did not sign a law making it legal to execute and imprison Americans without due process.
6. Trump did not set free all the terrorists in Guantanamo Bay to return to the field of battle.
7. Trump did not constantly degrade civil rights, violate U.S. constitutional law, or commit treason.
8. Trump has not imported terrorist by the millions and forced taxpayers to fund their own demise.

It is Barack Hussein Obama, Hillary Clinton, and the established grifters who accomplished the above. The Obama/Clinton cult have illegally occupied our government and swiped our future and that of our progeny. Donald Trump will END the nefarious practices listed above.
Trump/Pence 2016 - our survival depends on it!
What are you talking about.:p
 
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The only part I can criticize Trump on about immigration is his refusal to address white collar criminals. I like what he has said, but he's failed to address the biggest variable worth addressing to stop illegal immigration.

When you go camping in an area known to have many bears, you would know not to leave food out in the open. Why? Well, bears will be attracted to your site... if you don't want bears to visit you, don't give them a reason to come over. This is elementary level logic. By being just as strict on the white collar criminals who hire illegal immigrants as they are on other criminals, illegal immigrants will not have a reason to come to the country illegally (no work).
If they would make it a real serious crime to hire a illegal or give them welfare the issue would be solved in one day .... Oh and demand its enforced even in the fairy land where Democrats live.
 
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Well, Thor is a Nordic god... We know some people clearly think he is their god. lol
The movies changed that; he is only an alien now with super powers :)
 
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The movies changed that; he is only an alien now with super powers :)
Okay, then a god that flip-flopped into an alien... more appropriate to describe Trump. lol
 
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Granted I'm not Hispanic, but I'd like to think that if I was, I'd be in favor of Trump's original immigration policy.

Parasitic white collar criminals hire illegal immigrants (like the Polish immigrants who built Trump Tower) and pay them pennies on the dollar. By allowing illegal immigration, two things happen:

1.) fewer jobs for legal Hispanics (and other people in general)
2.) the demand for work is lower due to the supply of so many [illegal] workers, thus, lower wages for the same job (white collar criminals pay pennies on the dollar for illegals).

I'm fine with a wall being built, but this just gives the illusion of security. It's like putting your great dane dog in the backyard with a 6 inch fence and expecting him to not being able to get over/around/under it. The greatest thing we could do to stop illegal immigration isn't building a wall, it's cracking down on the white collar criminals!!!
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to KimPetras again
 
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Granted I'm not Hispanic, but I'd like to think that if I was, I'd be in favor of Trump's original immigration policy.

Parasitic white collar criminals hire illegal immigrants (like the Polish immigrants who built Trump Tower) and pay them pennies on the dollar. By allowing illegal immigration, two things happen:

1.) fewer jobs for legal Hispanics (and other people in general)
2.) the demand for work is lower due to the supply of so many [illegal] workers, thus, lower wages for the same job (white collar criminals pay pennies on the dollar for illegals).

I'm fine with a wall being built, but this just gives the illusion of security. It's like putting your great dane dog in the backyard with a 6 inch fence and expecting him to not being able to get over/around/under it. The greatest thing we could do to stop illegal immigration isn't building a wall, it's cracking down on the white collar criminals!!!
You mean like Hillary?