Can the Trinity be Biblically proven?

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fredoheaven

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Here are some Commentaries on Matthew 28:19

Albert Barnes Notes
Baptizing them unto the Father,Son, and Holy Spirit by a solemn profession of the only true religion, and by asolemn consecration to the service of the sacred Trinity.

Matthew Henry's Complete Commentary on the Bible
This baptism must be administered in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. That is, 1. By authority from heaven, and not of man for his ministers act by authority from the three persons in the Godhead, who all concur, as to our creation, so to our redemption they have their commission under the great seal of heaven, which puts an honour upon the ordinance, though to a carnal eye, like him that instituted it, it has no form or comeliness. 2. Calling upon the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Every thing is sanctified by prayer, and particularly the waters of baptism. The prayer of faith obtains the presence of God with the ordinance, which is its lustre and beauty, its life and efficacy. But, 3. It is into the name (eis to onoma) of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost this was intended as thesummary of the first principles of the Christian religion, and of the new covenant, and according to it the ancient creeds were drawn up. By our being baptized, we solemnly profess, (1.) Our assent to the scripture-revelation concerning God, the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. We confess our belief that there is a God, that there is but one God, that in the Godhead there is a Father that begets, a Son that is begotten, and a Holy Spirit of both. We are baptized, not into the names, but into thename, of Father, Son, and Spirit, which plainly intimates that these three are one, and their name one. The distinct mentioning of the three persons in the Trinity, both in the Christian baptism here, and in the Christian blessing (2 Corinthians 13:14), as it is a full proof of the doctrine of the Trinity, so it has done much towards preserving it pure and entire through all ages of the church for nothing is more great and awful in Christian assemblies than these two. (2.) Our consent to a covenant-relation to God,the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Baptism is a sacrament, that is, it is an oath super sacramentum dicere, is to say upon oath. It is an oath of abjuration, by which we renounce the world and the flesh, as rivals with God for the throne in our hearts and an oath of allegiance, by which we resign and give up ourselves to God, to be his,our own selves, our whole selves, body, soul, and spirit, to be governed by his will, and made happy in his favour we become his men, so the form of homage in our law runs. Therefore baptism is applied to the person, as livery and seisin is given of the premises, because it is the person that is dedicated to God. [1.] It is into the name ofthe Father, believing him to be the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ (for that is principally intended here), by eternal generation, and our Father, as our Creator, Preserver, and Benefactor, to whom therefore we resign ourselves, as our absolute owner and proprietor, to actuate us, and dispose of us as our supreme rector andgovernor, to rule us, as free agents, by his law and as our chief good, and highest end. [2.] It is into the name of the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, andcorrelate to the Father. Baptism was in a particular manner administered in the name of the Lord Jesus, Acts 8:16,19:5. In baptism we assent, as Peter did, Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God (Matthew 16:16), and consent, as Thomas did, My Lord, and my God, John 20:28. We take Christ to be our Prophet, Priest, and King, and give up ourselves to be taught, and saved, and ruled, by him. [3.] It is into the name of the Holy Ghost. Believing the Godhead of the Holy Spirit, and his agency in carrying on our redemption, we give up ourselves to his conduct and operation, as our sanctifier, teacher, guide, and comforter.

John Gill,

in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost; by the authority of these three divine persons, who all appeared, and testified their approbation of the administration of this ordinance, at the baptism of Christ: and as they are to be invocated in it, so the persons baptized not only profess faith in each divine person, but are devoted to their service, and worship, and are laid under obligation to obedience to them, Hence a confirmation of the doctrine of the Trinity, there are three persons, but one name, but one God, into which believers are baptized; and a proof of the true deity both of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost; and that Christ, as the Son of God, is God;
 

fredoheaven

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Antichrists always twist the scriptures because they have never listened to the voice of God and obeyed his commandments.
YES, very true! But who did the twisting? I haven't read your post yet but review first before posting. You might as well be caught twisting> SOLA SCRIPTURA!
 

fredoheaven

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"to born of god"

just a bit of wonder about your avatar? Are your born of God or born of god?
As if your avatar tells something>

Umm, but anyway this is out of topic just curious...
 
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YES, very true! But who did the twisting? I haven't read your post yet but review first before posting. You might as well be caught twisting> SOLA SCRIPTURA!
Every single reader of the Bible twists the scriptures to benefit the reader. Not one Christian has ever been used by God to testify to His Word and learn about the Beast that was necessary to teach us saints about how we're created and what the future will. This is why all Christians argue about what the Beast is or what the antichrist is. They have no idea so they have to lie to benefit themselves and their followers.

I have been listening to the voice of God and obeying his commandments for the past 37 years and for the past 8 years have been testifying to every word formed in my mind via his voice. I have been preaching that voice ( the gospel ) to thousands of God's chosen believers for the past 5 years.

All I see in this forum are non-believers who argue about their selected scriptures without any knowledge to understand any of the prophecies written by God's prophets.
 
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"to born of god"

just a bit of wonder about your avatar? Are your born of God or born of god?
As if your avatar tells something>

Umm, but anyway this is out of topic just curious...
A profile name is just a profile name. It's meaningless, just like reading words in a Bible without listening to the voice of God and obeying his commandments.

Those of us who are truly born of God and testified to every word formed in our mind via the voice of God that we are forced to obey understand everything that is written by God's prophets. That's why we're chosen to preach the gospel ( voice of the Lord ) to God's chosen believers. They listen and obey his commands.
 

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Every single reader of the Bible twists the scriptures to benefit the reader. Not one Christian has ever been used by God to testify to His Word and learn about the Beast that was necessary to teach us saints about how we're created and what the future will. This is why all Christians argue about what the Beast is or what the antichrist is. They have no idea so they have to lie to benefit themselves and their followers.

I have been listening to the voice of God and obeying his commandments for the past 37 years and for the past 8 years have been testifying to every word formed in my mind via his voice. I have been preaching that voice ( the gospel ) to thousands of God's chosen believers for the past 5 years.

All I see in this forum are non-believers who argue about their selected scriptures without any knowledge to understand any of the prophecies written by God's prophets.
Sorry this is a BDF, Bible Discussion Forum, I have no intention to play words with something like you without scriptural to back out. Maybe just a waste of time...audible voice of your god is what you are hearing but Ihave my God who has already revealed himself in the Scripture of truth Daniel 10:21

Daniel 10:21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth:
 

fredoheaven

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A profile name is just a profile name. It's meaningless, just like reading words in a Bible without listening to the voice of God and obeying his commandments.

Those of us who are truly born of God and testified to every word formed in our mind via the voice of God that we are forced to obey understand everything that is written by God's prophets. That's why we're chosen to preach the gospel ( voice of the Lord ) to God's chosen believers. They listen and obey his commands.
That maybe a characterization of yourself, You are now changing your tone. Your unearthed!
 

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I have been listening to the voice of God and obeying his commandments for the past 37 years and for the past 8 years have been testifying to every word formed in my mind via his voice. I have been preaching that voice ( the gospel ) to thousands of God's chosen believers for the past 5 years.

All I see in this forum are non-believers who argue about their selected scriptures without any knowledge to understand any of the prophecies written by God's prophets.
There are already countless whom I've heard that. Heard the voice, they are John the baptist etc. not my first time to encounter such as yours

SOLA SCRIPTURA!
 
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Sorry this is a BDF, Bible Discussion Forum, I have no intention to play words with something like you without scriptural to back out. Maybe just a waste of time...audible voice of your god is what you are hearing but Ihave my God who has already revealed himself in the Scripture of truth Daniel 10:21

Daniel 10:21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scriptureoftruth:
The Jews who read the scriptures and believed their own interpretations instead of listening to the voice of the Lord and obeying his commandments ( Christ ) were also deceived by them.

2 Corinthians 3;
14: But their minds were hardened; for to this day, when they read the old covenant, that same veil remains unlifted, because only through Christ is it taken away.
15: Yes, to this day whenever Moses is read a veil lies over their minds;
16: but when a man turns to the Lord the veil is removed.
17: Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

It's not the Bible that teaches you knowledge of God. It's the Holy Spirit that teaches and the Bible is not necessary for the spirit to teach you.

1 John 2
27: but the anointing which you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that any one should teach you; as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie, just as it has taught you, abide in him.
 
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Antichrists always twist the words of the Lord and Savior and make them believe Jesus is their Lord.
Bluto, please.ANTI CHRIST?? Paul asked a question to those he was teaching " Am i therefore your Enemy because I tell you the truth"??
 
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There are already countless whom I've heard that. Heard the voice, they are John the baptist etc. not my first time to encounter such as yours

SOLA SCRIPTURA!
Yes I know. Daniel heard the voice of God and had to write this;

Daniel 9:
9: To the Lord our God belong mercy and forgiveness; because we have rebelled against him,
10: and have not obeyed the voice of the LORD our God by following his laws, which he set before us by his servants the prophets.
11: All Israel has transgressed thy law and turned aside, refusing to obey thy voice. And the curse and oath which are written in the law of Moses the servant of God have been poured out upon us, because we have sinned against him.
12: He has confirmed his words, which he spoke against us and against our rulers who ruled us, by bringing upon us a great calamity; for under the whole heaven there has not been done the like of what has been done against Jerusalem.
13: As it is written in the law of Moses, all this calamity has come upon us, yet we have not entreated the favor of the LORD our God, turning from our iniquities and giving heed to thy truth.
14: Therefore the LORD has kept ready the calamity and has brought it upon us; for the LORD our God is righteous in all the works which he has done, and we have not obeyed his voice.

Only those of us who are forced to write and speak the formed words, visions, dreams and spoken analogies in our mind via the voice of the Lord are authorized to preach this word of the Lord ( the gospel ) to God's chosen believers.

All those religious heathens who steal the words from the Bible and use them for their own selfish benefit will remain confused and without any knowledge to understand what Christ is and why it exists.
 

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The Jews who read the scriptures and believed their own interpretations instead of listening to the voice of the Lord and obeying his commandments ( Christ ) were also deceived by them.

2 Corinthians 3;
14: But their minds were hardened; for to this day, when they read the old covenant, that same veil remains unlifted, because only through Christ is it taken away.
15: Yes, to this day whenever Moses is read a veil lies over their minds;
16: but when a man turns to the Lord the veil is removed.
17: Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

It's not the Bible that teaches you knowledge of God. It's the Holy Spirit that teaches and the Bible is not necessary for the spirit to teach you.

1 John 2
27: but the anointing which you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that any one should teach you; as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie, just as it has taught you, abide in him.
So your using the Bible now and you are now twisting. Such yours is self refute. The Bible says:17: Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

What you don't know is that you are using the Holy inspired Word of God. How can it will notl be use? It is authored by the Holy Spirit himself...

HOHO!

SOLA SCRIPTURA!
 
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Bluto, please.ANTI CHRIST?? Paul asked a question to those he was teaching " Am i therefore your Enemy because I tell you the truth"??
Those who speak from information called Satan and the Beast are known as antichrists who reject Christ, the voice of the Lord. Antichrists cannot listen to the voice of the Lord and obey his commandments.
 
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So your using the Bible now and you are now twisting. Such yours is self refute. The Bible says:17: Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

What you don't know is that you are using the Holy inspired Word of God. How can it will notl be use? It is authored by the Holy Spirit himself...

HOHO!

SOLA SCRIPTURA!
I'm the only ONE ( Holy Spirit ) who is authorized to teach God's chosen believers.
 
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Here are some Commentaries on Matthew 28:19

Albert Barnes Notes
Baptizing them unto the Father,Son, and Holy Spirit by a solemn profession of the only true religion, and by asolemn consecration to the service of the sacred Trinity.

Matthew Henry's Complete Commentary on the Bible
This baptism must be administered in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. That is, 1. By authority from heaven, and not of man for his ministers act by authority from the three persons in the Godhead, who all concur, as to our creation, so to our redemption they have their commission under the great seal of heaven, which puts an honour upon the ordinance, though to a carnal eye, like him that instituted it, it has no form or comeliness. 2. Calling upon the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Every thing is sanctified by prayer, and particularly the waters of baptism. The prayer of faith obtains the presence of God with the ordinance, which is its lustre and beauty, its life and efficacy. But, 3. It is into the name (eis to onoma) of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost this was intended as thesummary of the first principles of the Christian religion, and of the new covenant, and according to it the ancient creeds were drawn up. By our being baptized, we solemnly profess, (1.) Our assent to the scripture-revelation concerning God, the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. We confess our belief that there is a God, that there is but one God, that in the Godhead there is a Father that begets, a Son that is begotten, and a Holy Spirit of both. We are baptized, not into the names, but into thename, of Father, Son, and Spirit, which plainly intimates that these three are one, and their name one. The distinct mentioning of the three persons in the Trinity, both in the Christian baptism here, and in the Christian blessing (2 Corinthians 13:14), as it is a full proof of the doctrine of the Trinity, so it has done much towards preserving it pure and entire through all ages of the church for nothing is more great and awful in Christian assemblies than these two. (2.) Our consent to a covenant-relation to God,the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Baptism is a sacrament, that is, it is an oath super sacramentum dicere, is to say upon oath. It is an oath of abjuration, by which we renounce the world and the flesh, as rivals with God for the throne in our hearts and an oath of allegiance, by which we resign and give up ourselves to God, to be his,our own selves, our whole selves, body, soul, and spirit, to be governed by his will, and made happy in his favour we become his men, so the form of homage in our law runs. Therefore baptism is applied to the person, as livery and seisin is given of the premises, because it is the person that is dedicated to God. [1.] It is into the name ofthe Father, believing him to be the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ (for that is principally intended here), by eternal generation, and our Father, as our Creator, Preserver, and Benefactor, to whom therefore we resign ourselves, as our absolute owner and proprietor, to actuate us, and dispose of us as our supreme rector andgovernor, to rule us, as free agents, by his law and as our chief good, and highest end. [2.] It is into the name of the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, andcorrelate to the Father. Baptism was in a particular manner administered in the name of the Lord Jesus, Acts 8:16,19:5. In baptism we assent, as Peter did, Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God (Matthew 16:16), and consent, as Thomas did, My Lord, and my God, John 20:28. We take Christ to be our Prophet, Priest, and King, and give up ourselves to be taught, and saved, and ruled, by him. [3.] It is into the name of the Holy Ghost. Believing the Godhead of the Holy Spirit, and his agency in carrying on our redemption, we give up ourselves to his conduct and operation, as our sanctifier, teacher, guide, and comforter.

John Gill,

in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost; by the authority of these three divine persons, who all appeared, and testified their approbation of the administration of this ordinance, at the baptism of Christ: and as they are to be invocated in it, so the persons baptized not only profess faith in each divine person, but are devoted to their service, and worship, and are laid under obligation to obedience to them, Hence a confirmation of the doctrine of the Trinity, there are three persons, but one name, but one God, into which believers are baptized; and a proof of the true deity both of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost; and that Christ, as the Son of God, is God;
Sir, you need to re read Matthew 28 verse 19:
".......Baptizing them IN THE NAME..IN THE NAME (REPEAT) OFTEN..Of THE FATHER (comma) and OF THE SON (Comma) And of the HOLY.GHOST" (Period)....That is "The Name" of the 3...JESUS CHRIST..
 
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Sir, you need to re read Matthew 28 verse 19:
".......Baptizing them IN THE NAME..IN THE NAME (REPEAT) OFTEN..Of THE FATHER (comma) and OF THE SON (Comma) And of the HOLY.GHOST" (Period)....That is "The Name" of the 3...JESUS CHRIST..
Antichrists use one verse out of the New Testament that other antichrists produced and they claim it is a true story.
 

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non trinitarians are antichrist?...wow...what a strawman
 

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Sir, you need to re read Matthew 28 verse 19:
".......Baptizing them IN THE NAME..IN THE NAME (REPEAT) OFTEN..Of THE FATHER (comma) and OF THE SON (Comma) And of the HOLY.GHOST" (Period)....That is "The Name" of the 3...JESUS CHRIST..
Methinks YOU need to read it again
 

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I'm the only ONE ( Holy Spirit ) who is authorized to teach God's chosen believers.
LOL you stick to teaching error. We will proclaim the truth from the Scriptures.
 

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When Jesus prayed in the garden?...He was talking to himself?