This topic has been on the mind and heart of my wife and I lately. It is because we have been prompted to pray about this more and more. Not just for ourselves, but others.
It is simply our desire to not be deceived and we know that only God can prevent this. It is our desire that no one would fall prey to any deception and be caught off guard when it comes to God's plan for his people.
The question as to what is the lie that is warned about in 2 Thessalonians 2 has come up a lot lately.
Through prayer and meditating on this, we discovered that the answer is located right in that same chapter.
I have heard a lot of theories about what the lie is about. I just wanted to present this for others to study and discuss.
I have opened this topic as a place to discuss 2 Thessalonians 2. What is written there? What does it say not to be misled about?
Please try to refrain from debate about what you believe and stick to what is written in those scriptures. I hope that this will come to others as a blessing that might give understanding on this topic.
Grace and peace be to all of you through our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen.
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
The saints cannot be gathered unto Christ until there is a falling away first,and the man of sin steps in to the Jews temple,and claims to be their God and Messiah.
God will give the world 7 years to have their way,and cause all people that do not love Him to follow a kingdom that acknowledges no God,and exalts people,spiritual evolution through the power of nature.
For the first three and one half years repentance,and salvation,is still available to the world,and the world will operate by a unified religious system,and the ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section.
The last three and one half years the man of sin will rule,and will persecute all people that hold the testimony of Jesus Christ.
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
The new age movement that has an interpretation of the Bible based on spiritual evolution through nature,that does not accept Jesus as Lord and Savior,but as a good teacher in spiritual enlightenment,and an ascended master,and avatar.
They will forbid to marry for population reduction,and command to abstain from meats for they are nature wordshippers.
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
The new age movement will unify the religions based on spiritual evolution,with an interpretation of Christianity,Islam,and Judaism,to fit that format,and it will be a hate crime to try to convert someone to their religion,punishable in the international criminal court system,for all are vaild for spiritual evolution,because they all have a core truth compatible with each other,which many people believe this now,many paths that lead to God.
The man of sin will be in to the occult,nature worship,witchcraft,and will not honor the God of his fathers,and regards no god,but honors the God of forces,the power of nature as his higher power,and will support the new age movement that is about spiritual evolution through nature,and the unified religious system will prepare the people that do not love God to follow the beast kingdom after the three and one half years it is operational.
The man of sin will establish peace in the Middle East,and the Gentile nations will come together and say,Peace and safety,and the 7 years period will begin.The Jews will rebuild their temple with no hassle from the Palestinians.The world will operate by the unified religious system,and the ten horn kingdom.
The first three and one half years will start separating the people that love God,from the people that do not love God.
The unified religious system will be operational,and will be the time they will not endure the truth of the Bible,but want to hear it according to their own lusts,spiritual evolution through the power of nature,and it will be a hate crime to try to convert someone to their religion,and Christianity will rapidly decline in impacting the world with the truth.
This is the falling away first.
The 6 trumpets are 6 disasters,that happen on earth that the world knows about,but after each trumpet they do not turn to God,and after the 6th trumpet,God said the world will still not repent of their evil ways,and turn to Him,so God allows the man of sin to rule over them.
An example is WW1,they did not turn to God,but started League of Nations,WW2,they did not turn to God,but started United Nations,and human efforts to try to bring peace on earth.That pattern will continue until God allows the man of sin to rule over them.
During the first three and one half years during the unified religious system it will be a hate crime to try to convert someone to your religion punishable in the international criminal court system.
The religion of Islam will deal harshly with this,and although all the Gentile governments come together,the people in the Arab nations will rebel saying it is an insult to Allah,and they cannot stifle them by telling them they cannot spread their religion,and will not accept the new age movement's interpretation of their religion in the unifed religious system.
The religion of Islam and the world will clash,the 6th trumpet,and the man of sin will pluck up 3 horns by the roots,which the Arab nations will be devastated with nuclear weapons,and that war will be so terrible that the world lost hope,and was in despair,but they do not turn to God,but turn to the man of sin for the solution,and God allows the man of sin to rule over them.
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
When God allows the man of sin to rule over the world,war breaks out in heaven,and the fallen angels are cast to earth,which becomes their holding cell,and Satan is no longer the prince of the air.
Satan possesses the man of sin,and uses him to pour out his wrath upon the earth,by spiritual deception,and physical persecution,and destruction.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
For the first three and one half years repentance,and salvation,is still available to the world,but after the 6th trumpet,and they do not turn to God,He gives the world the man of sin to rule over them,and the falling away is complete.
The fallen angels are cast to earth,and Satan appears as the beast,and the devils deceive all people that do not love the truth,a strong delusion they cannot snap out of,and they will follow the beast kingdom.
The beast will step in to the Jews temple,and claim to be God and their Messiah,and address the world that he harnessed the power of nature,and obtained power,and the false prophet does miracles in the sight of people to convince them the beast shared this power with him,and will share this power with those that follow him.
When the world takes the mark of the beast,then repentance,and salvation,is no longer available to them,the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Now the saints can be gathered unto Christ,but God allows the beast to persecute the saints for three and one half years,and after that time is up,those that remain will be gathered unto Christ.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
After the three and one half years those that remain shall be gathered unto Christ,and then the wrath of God poured upon the world leading up to the battle of Armageddon when the beast and the world attack Jerusalem,the Jews,for God turned the nation of Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah,and God comes back with all His saints,and saves Israel,and defeats the world,so all Israel shall be saved,and physical Israel will be spiritual,and the kingdom restored to them in the millennial reign of Christ.
With United Nations,trying to have peace on earth,and many people proclaiming peace for the world,people saying many paths lead to God,new age movement,Israel becoming a nation again in 1948,the Palestinians having a conflict with them,advanced travel,and advanced technology,the world knows about each other,it is not that far off that soon the 7 years period will begin.
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.
Alice Baily,straight from the horses mouth,the biggest prophet of the new age movement,and their belief of Lucifer,who has a publishing company to promote her books,and they started a web site to promote her books.
The decent and sacrifice of Lucifer,
https://www.lucistrust.org/arcane_school/talks_and_articles/descent_and_sacrifice
Here is a brief summary of their belief of Lucifer.
There are comments on the World Wide Web claiming that the Lucis Trust was once called the Lucifer Trust. Such was never the case. However, for a brief period of two or three years in the early 1920’s, when Alice and Foster Bailey were beginning to publish the books published under her name, they named their fledgling publishing company “Lucifer Publishing Company”. By 1925 the name was changed to Lucis Publishing Company and has remained so ever since.Both “Lucifer” and “Lucis” come from the same word root,
lucis being the Latin generative case meaning
of light. The Baileys' reasons for choosing the original name are not known to us, but we can only surmise that they, like the great teacher H.P. Blavatsky, for whom they had enormous respect, sought to elicit a deeper understanding of the sacrifice made by Lucifer. Alice and Foster Bailey were serious students and teachers of Theosophy, a spiritual tradition which views Lucifer as one of the solar Angels, those advanced Beings Who Theosophy says descended (thus “the fall”) from Venus to our planet eons ago to bring the principle of mind to what was then animal-man. In the theosophical perspective, the descent of these solar Angels was not a fall into sin or disgrace but rather an act of great sacrifice, as is suggested in the name “Lucifer” which means
light-bearer.
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
Isa 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
Isa 14:18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.
Isa 14:19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
This is the viewpoint of the Bible concerning Lucifer that the fall was his demise,but Alice Bailey,and many people in the new age movement do not see it that way,and now they want to set up a kingdom for him,for they believe he is the helper of this world,and will further advance mankind by spiritual evolution,when he appears as the New Age Christ.