The Real Truth About Joseph Prince!
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How many times does a person need to repent before they realize where forgiveness is? And Atonement? And all blessings wherewith we are blessed by?
If a person does finally realize where those things are why would they ever leave?
Would it be so they could continue with their steps to heaven? Because those are the steps and they must be continually worked at?
If a person does finally realize where those things are why would they ever leave?
Would it be so they could continue with their steps to heaven? Because those are the steps and they must be continually worked at?
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Here is another who is a slanderer and a lier.
How can one experience truly Gods forgiveness and grace apart from having a relationship.
Sometimes your hate is so severe. you can not even truly see what a person says, Thats why you continue to make these mistakes of saying people believe or said something they never said or insinuated.
How can one experience truly Gods forgiveness and grace apart from having a relationship.
Sometimes your hate is so severe. you can not even truly see what a person says, Thats why you continue to make these mistakes of saying people believe or said something they never said or insinuated.
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it is not about a relationship to them, At least I do not see how it can be.
A relationship is based on love, Not how well the person feeds my pride.
That is the worlds way, I will be your friend as long as you serve me, When I no longer have any purpose for you. My friendship is gone,
in other words, You want to be my friend, You have to pay for it.
So what works would you have to do to remove yourself and be disinherited?
Is there anything you could do or would God Himself have to do it?
Have you ever had your son or daughter get super mad at you and tell you that you weren't their dad anymore? I have. It was really funny. They thought that by saying it it could be true. But guess what? I'm still their dad. Always have been. Even at the moment where they thought they could "divorce" me.
I like you Chester. You're fun.
Is there anything you could do or would God Himself have to do it?
Have you ever had your son or daughter get super mad at you and tell you that you weren't their dad anymore? I have. It was really funny. They thought that by saying it it could be true. But guess what? I'm still their dad. Always have been. Even at the moment where they thought they could "divorce" me.
I like you Chester. You're fun.
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They keep sneaking in statements that WE DON"T HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS.
Dear readers, if you don't believe in hypergrace, they don't believe YOU don't have a relationship with Jesus, either.
Dear readers, if you don't believe in hypergrace, they don't believe YOU don't have a relationship with Jesus, either.
there simply is not hyper grace..as I stated some weeks ago
there is only grace...you understand it or you do not
I cannot fathom the mindset that refuses to see what those they accuse actually post and instead must lie, exaggerate and accuse
does that sound like a Godly pastime? then why answer it!?!
I have never campaigned for OSAS...I have always thought we are responsible before God..to follow Jesus, to walk in the light, to have our sins forgiven when we sin and to make peace with others as much as is possible...as much as is possible, because it becomes painfully obvious, some do not even want peace
please be assured the only grace that is available is God's grace
frankly, if someone actually does have a relationship with Jesus, why are they so doggone busy trying to tell others that THEY don' have one?
there is no sneaking in any statements...what there is, is vitriol and false accusations coming from a 53 year old man that apparently has nothing better to do than attack people
who honestly? should not even be responded to ...so basically I am talking to YOU people...but I don't think you will listen either because for months I have said stop responding
and I see some of you saying stop responding but then you don't even take yourself seriously
you are never ever going to solve anything because you are trying to chase down something that for some reason, God Himself allows to operate
now, you either understand that or you do not
and I won't be answering the angry 53 year old man or responding to him...I'm not even posting this for him
why do you find it necessary to keep this going? is God glorified?
I dropped out of these conversations...because they do more harm then good and the op is ALWAYS angry...and so are a few others around here
there is nothing to be gained here...14 pages of regurgitated vomit...nothing good
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In your original post you said, "Celtic tradition" so I looked up the term because I was unfamilar with it. This is what it said,
Celtic Wicca is a modern tradition of Wicca that incorporates some elements of Celtic mythology. It employs the same basic theology, rituals and beliefs as most other forms of Wicca." And of course "Wicca" is witchcraft." In this post you used the term "Celtic Christian" and after looking it up I now understand what you meant. You see, I learned something today and please accept my apologies.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
Celtic Wicca is a modern tradition of Wicca that incorporates some elements of Celtic mythology. It employs the same basic theology, rituals and beliefs as most other forms of Wicca." And of course "Wicca" is witchcraft." In this post you used the term "Celtic Christian" and after looking it up I now understand what you meant. You see, I learned something today and please accept my apologies.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
So, now posting scriptures that speaks of our forgiveness based on the blood of Jesus is spamming and it is now a cult...LOL...
I told you some have to come up with insults and mockings to try to negate the work that our Lord Jesus Christ has done for us!
The things the humanistic mind of man comes up with to negate the work of Christ in our lives is unbelievable sometimes...but yet...it does happen...as we have can readily see for ourselves....thank God for the Holy Spirit that reveals Jesus to us!
I told you some have to come up with insults and mockings to try to negate the work that our Lord Jesus Christ has done for us!
The things the humanistic mind of man comes up with to negate the work of Christ in our lives is unbelievable sometimes...but yet...it does happen...as we have can readily see for ourselves....thank God for the Holy Spirit that reveals Jesus to us!
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I'm just talking to you here grandpa...even though you are younger than me LOL!
where would an attack against grace, faith and salvation come from
answer that, and you have your truthful answer
we do not fight against flesh and blood and the devil raises his head in church more than anywhere else
when Jesus walked into the synagogue and the man possessed of a demon cried out 'what have we do to do with you?' he exposed (the demon exposed) what goes on
church, religion, is the abode of demons...deadness and no spirit or a faux Holy Spirit...and make no mistake, many Christians cannot tell the difference between a deceptive evil spirit and God's Spirit, are the norm in the world today
some of us know this and some have a very painful lesson still to learn and some were never called in the first place
If scripture on the awesome work of Christ in obtaining forgiveness of sins for us that He loves dearly - is against a rule. Then this forum is not Christian in any sense of the word. Of course that is NOT true.
It's just some people cannot refute what the scriptures say so they have to resort to mocking and insults to try to discredit the work of Christ for us because of His love and grace.
It's just the nature of the beast...All is well........
It's just some people cannot refute what the scriptures say so they have to resort to mocking and insults to try to discredit the work of Christ for us because of His love and grace.
It's just the nature of the beast...All is well....
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2 Peter 2
12But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 13And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; 14Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: 15Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 16But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet. Jude 1 10But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. 11Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;13Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
Now you know what he's been talking about when he says that with his smiley face.
Brethren - we need to stay away from those that cause divisions and insult and mock others. No good can come from it and if we continue we will be defiled by this ungodly behavior. They are only trying to "bait" others. We are not ignorant of these schemes.
We can post scriptures but to interact with these mindsets will do nothing but cause trouble and strife. We did not learn Christ this way and it is not sound doctrine to have this sort of behavior amongst us, so we need to avoid them.
Just bless them in the name of the Lord and walk away from them and let them slander and exhibit malice if they want to. We can't stop it but we can stop ourselves from being involved with it.
Romans 16:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
If we don't avoid them - then this can happen.1 Corinthians 15:33 (NASB)
[SUP]33 [/SUP] Do not be deceived: "Bad company corrupts good morals."
Then we end up in this condition. Bitterness will cause many to be defiled. Guard your minds in the Lord.
Hebrews 12:15 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled;
We can post scriptures but to interact with these mindsets will do nothing but cause trouble and strife. We did not learn Christ this way and it is not sound doctrine to have this sort of behavior amongst us, so we need to avoid them.
Just bless them in the name of the Lord and walk away from them and let them slander and exhibit malice if they want to. We can't stop it but we can stop ourselves from being involved with it.
Romans 16:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
If we don't avoid them - then this can happen.1 Corinthians 15:33 (NASB)
[SUP]33 [/SUP] Do not be deceived: "Bad company corrupts good morals."
Then we end up in this condition. Bitterness will cause many to be defiled. Guard your minds in the Lord.
Hebrews 12:15 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled;
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Exactly what conclusions I came to when confused about being saved. Unless Jesus did it all from start to finish I realized I'm doooooooooooooomed. What a happy day when Jesus took my sins alllll away.
Life is so confusing for us humans. Many late great human intellectual beings who were tooo humanly intelligent with much worldly wisdom., ended up committing suicide for the confusion of their minds.
There was no way out of their confusion and they couldn't logically refuse their hard learned human reason and intellect. They thought of the ultimate end of things without God's thoughts guiding them. They saw vanity and hopelessness. They were fooled by the enemy of our souls who hates humanity.
he wants to see all humans dead and suffering and confused. he wants humans acting on their confusion be it causing pain and anguish on themselves and others or the ultimate end, suicide. Humans can only drink so much alcohol and take so many drugs in the hopes that their brains would stop thinking. Isn't satan horrid to GET humans to rely on themselves in human pride., only to find nothing reliable or worthy to be proud of., so they chose death. he is a horrid enemy.
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