Donald may be chosen to help America.

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Type in '2011 Trump prophecy'. I want to hear evryone's take on this. I've been saying that the ' church falling away' is all i see. Inside my heart i hoped there will be more to it. Listen to this brother. Quite the story. God bless.
 
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Type in '2011 Trump prophecy'. I want to hear evryone's take on this. I've been saying that the ' church falling away' is all i see. Inside my heart i hoped there will be more to it. Listen to this brother. Quite the story. God bless.
God may very well have chosen Trump to be president, but not to help America.
As with Israel, He often used evil men and nations to bring His judgment on sinful people.
 

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God may very well have chosen Trump to be president, but not to help America.
As with Israel, He often used evil men and nations to bring His judgment on sinful people.

Name me one time God used anything other than evil imperfect man to bring about his will.....except that one time.
 

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God may very well have chosen Trump to be president, but not to help America.
As with Israel, He often used evil men and nations to bring His judgment on sinful people.
I don't want to rush to judgement. America needs help wouldn't you say? 'The goodness of the Lord leads men to repentance'. I just want to hold back from setting an opinion in stone as law. A third great awakening is what we all have been praying for for decades. I know i have. The number one nation for missionaries and bible distribution. I believe God has used America for a greater good inspite of all the inroads of satan. Inspite of a 'church' out of order at best. We've reached a flash point, i agree, but i don't want to make a call in the flesh how this plays out nationally at this juncture.
 
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I firmly believe God has chosen Trump for this time...... BUT, I also believe He has given us the freedom to reject His choice.
 

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I firmly believe God has chosen Trump for this time...... BUT, I also believe He has given us the freedom to reject His choice.
I've been leaning that way as well. This notion that God uses perfect people to achieve His ends just doesn't hold up to biblical muster. Trump may or may not prove to be the perfect candidate to upend this rigged election system we have been prisoners to and give the US back to the citizens. The real question is if we will squander the opportunity.
 

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I firmly believe God has chosen Trump for this time...... BUT, I also believe He has given us the freedom to reject His choice.
LOL i guess God has to do a plan B now huh? Because plan A didnt work out right.... Can you believe that a creature can stop Gods choosing and plans. What kind of sovereign rule do you serve?
 

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Romans 13:1

Let everyone be subject to governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

Of course whoever is the next president is chosen by God for it is he who sets rulers over poeple
 
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LOL i guess God has to do a plan B now huh? Because plan A didnt work out right.... Can you believe that a creature can stop Gods choosing and plans. What kind of sovereign rule do you serve?
The "chosen" people of God contradicted His plans endlessly... all through the Bible. Just because He knew how they would act, does not change the fact that He had (and offered) a very different will for their future than they chose. I am not that Calvinistic to believe we are puppets with no choice in our destinies.
 

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I don't believe that God is happy about either choice that we have elected for the our next president. I believe that he has turned his back on this entire election campaign. Read Romans 1:21-32. I believe that God has turned this nation over to it's reprobate mind.
 

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I don't believe that God is happy about either choice that we have elected for the our next president. I believe that he has turned his back on this entire election campaign. Read Romans 1:21-32. I believe that God has turned this nation over to it's reprobate mind.
Moses was a murderer....Paul was a murderer. There were prostitutes and all kinds of reprobates God has used.
 

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Moses was a murderer....Paul was a murderer. There were prostitutes and all kinds of reprobates God has used.
What did God do to Israel every time that they turned away from him?
 

nowyouseem033

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The "chosen" people of God contradicted His plans endlessly... all through the Bible. Just because He knew how they would act, does not change the fact that He had (and offered) a very different will for their future than they chose. I am not that Calvinistic to believe we are puppets with no choice in our destinies.
Yeah i figured that but thats not what Calvinists believe. The biggest misconception and unfortunately ignorance against Calvinism is thinking that we are all robots.
 
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Makes me wonder if Trump hadn't seen this prophecy and used it to his advantage? I'm not saying God can't use anyone and anything to further His works, nor that He hasn't chosen Trump for this purpose as I am not God to know God's mind.........but evil understands prophecy and abuses it also. As believers we are to stay vigilant in our watches, because evil comes to us as a lion dressed to be a lamb (not that Mr. Trump has ever portrayed himself as a lamb). Trust God, Pray for our leaders and our country, and then Go vote!!
No matter for whom one votes.....AMERICANS, GET OUT AND VOTE TOMORROW!!!!!
NewWine's Public Service Announcement of the day. :cool:
 
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What did God do to Israel every time that they turned away from him?
He raised up yet another person to lead them back to Him.
 
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What did God do to Israel every time that they turned away from him?
same thing a good parent does with their children. Loving correction.
 

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You misspelled destroy America
 

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Consequences are a natural outcome of bad decisions and have nothing to do with a heavenly temper tantrum. God is in the business of reconciliation.
 

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I dont personally believe that Trump has been chosen by God. I mean I just dont see it. I mean its not that I believe that if He had chosen someone, that person would have to be perfectly righteous in every way or anything : p But I dunno, I just dont feel that He has been chosen at all.
I did watch Trey Smith's video on how Trump is biblical prophecy (well just the video about the video, it was an hour long though : p). And I didnt think there was really anything biblical in the film tbh : p
(Not that I hate Trey Smith or anything)

But, I am going to vote for Trump. I am not going to wait for that one person that I believe God has raised up : p Of course I place all of my trust in Him and all that, but I dont believe that God personally raises every leader who ever existed ever. I have the right to vote in my country for who I think is the better candidate, and I plan to exercise my right. And I dont want Hilary to be my next president : p