Donald may be chosen to help America.

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CharlieGrown

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And, maybe who they DON'T see................... or even, where they unexpectedly find themselves?
We probably agree the heart can be masked to large groups of people. And that's why our finite opinions fall short all the time.
 

damombomb

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It seems there is an a/c spirit in the white house. We as believers should pray for strongholds to be broken over our nation.
For those in authority to repent and turn back to God. There is power in numbers to believe God at his word.

Make America great again Lord. Wake up your people to become one in you. To be watchmen, to intercede. To do what is
right in your eye's. That our enemies would say, truly God is with them. To hold you at your word Lord that you would
do what your word say's. For your glory. Lord Jesus, do a work in the white house, clean them out that do not fear you
or turn there hearts to you. We come against this a/c spirit and declare it be abolished Lord. That your angels would war
against this. That victory in your name Jesus will overtake America.
 
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Persuaded

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I don't want to rush to judgement. America needs help wouldn't you say? 'The goodness of the Lord leads men to repentance'. I just want to hold back from setting an opinion in stone as law. A third great awakening is what we all have been praying for for decades. I know i have. The number one nation for missionaries and bible distribution. I believe God has used America for a greater good inspite of all the inroads of satan. Inspite of a 'church' out of order at best. We've reached a flash point, i agree, but i don't want to make a call in the flesh how this plays out nationally at this juncture.
Yes, America needs help. I pray that you, Sirk, Willie, and others are right about Trump. But I just do not see it at this time.
While American Christians have been greatly used by God to reach out the a lost and dying world, it has also been used of Satan to spread heresy throughout the world.
We have murdered more babies, consumed more drugs, produced and consumed more porn in the last 50 years than any nation in the world.
Just as with Israel, there comes a time when God must judge and punish such wickedness. And just as with Israel, many who were serving Him also suffer. Remember that Daniel and many others who were not wicked also went into captivity along with the wicked and lived their life as slaves.

Jer. 7:16-----"Therefore pray thou not for these people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not here thee."
Jer. 14:11----"Then said the Lord unto me, Pray not for these people for their good."

I pray America has not reached the point that Israel had, but I am afraid we have.

As for as Christians suffering, Tell that to those who are suffering in the Middle East today.
Are we really any more righteous than they are.

Our churches, our fathers, and even many of us have just stood by and allow this great country turn from God toward evil.
It may be time to pay for our lack of dedication to our Lord and Savior.
 

Sirk

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Yes, America needs help. I pray that you, Sirk, Willie, and others are right about Trump. But I just do not see it at this time.
While American Christians have been greatly used by God to reach out the a lost and dying world, it has also been used of Satan to spread heresy throughout the world.
We have murdered more babies, consumed more drugs, produced and consumed more porn in the last 50 years than any nation in the world.
Just as with Israel, there comes a time when God must judge and punish such wickedness. And just as with Israel, many who were serving Him also suffer. Remember that Daniel and many others who were not wicked also went into captivity along with the wicked and lived their life as slaves.

Jer. 7:16-----"Therefore pray thou not for these people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not here thee."
Jer. 14:11----"Then said the Lord unto me, Pray not for these people for their good."

I pray America has not reached the point that Israel had, but I am afraid we have.

As for as Christians suffering, Tell that to those who are suffering in the Middle East today.
Are we really any more righteous than they are.

Our churches, our fathers, and even many of us have just stood by and allow this great country turn from God toward evil.
It may be time to pay for our lack of dedication to our Lord and Savior.
Maybe God wants us to make an informed decision. And how can we if we haven't experienced both extremes?
 

Dude653

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And, maybe who they DON'T see................... or even, where they unexpectedly find themselves?
A lot of "Christians"are going to be shocked when they open their eyes in hell
 

Roughsoul1991

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We also have seen God raise an evil ruler like Hillary just to eventually show his power. Evil rulers in the Bible was assassinated, I'll stricken fatally, attacked and killed by foreign evil, or caused a civil war between Judah and Israel if I'm not mistaken. One things for sure is if unrepentant evil leader takes office. God doesn't allow evil leaders to prosper very long especially ones like Hillary that wants to attack his people's Christian beliefs and freedoms. It doesn't matter if the nation turns back to God, But God says if HIS people will. I have never seen such prayer and talk of God in all of my 25 years until these last few years. The church can feel evil knocking and we are finally crying out to God like we should of always been doing. Giving God the trust that only he can do what man can not.
 
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The anti christ kingdom will come regardless if Trump is elected. Though he may have promise to turn the country around Gods word will come to pass. As much as I support most of what Trump says even he mentioned he doesn't ask the lord for forgiveness & believes in personal works so i don't believe he was chosen by God.
 

Roughsoul1991

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The anti christ kingdom will come regardless if Trump is elected. Though he may have promise to turn the country around Gods word will come to pass. As much as I support most of what Trump says even he mentioned he doesn't ask the lord for forgiveness & believes in personal works so i don't believe he was chosen by God.
Did you fully read his comment because he explained himself after making that comment. Saying he tries to live a life where he doesn't sin and in need of forgiveness but when he goes to church he takes part of communion as much as he can which is an act of repentance and acknowledging Gods forgiveness to sins of repentance.
 
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I firmly believe God has chosen Trump for this time...... BUT, I also believe He has given us the freedom to reject His choice.
That might just be a wishful butterfly feeling based on emotion.:)
 

Dude653

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God chose Trump to do what? Grab women's genital, call people fat, make fun of handicapped people?
 

Sirk

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God chose Trump to do what? Grab women's genital, call people fat, make fun of handicapped people?
God chose David to do what? Sleep with his top generals wife and then have him killed and then raise a child who raped his half sister?
 

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A lot of "Christians"are going to be shocked when they open their eyes in hell
God chose Trump to do what? Grab women's genital, call people fat, make fun of handicapped people?
Physician heal thyself.

Where do I find purity and virtue in your posts?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Desdichado

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Physician heal thyself.

Where do I find purity and virtue in your posts?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
The Church will be way better off when this shindig ends tomorrow.
 

Socreta93

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Do you know how many evil world leaders there have been? I doubt God chose them. With that said like you guys have told me Christians can apparently hope to make a difference in this election.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Do you know how many evil world leaders there have been? I doubt God chose them. With that said like you guys have told me Christians can apparently hope to make a difference in this election.

If you vote for him, and he turns out to be an awful president, its not like its your fault. The whole thing is a gamble, we vote based on who we like better, and hope they do well. If they dont, then we vote them out for someone else : p So dont feel too pressured about it.
 
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CharlieGrown

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The Church will be way better off when this shindig ends tomorrow.
And after we rub the tears and sleep from our eyes, and look over at Syria there will be nightmares.
 

Desdichado

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And after we rub the tears and sleep from our eyes, and look over at Syria there will be nightmares.
Outside threats have a way of uniting disparate camps. :p

But I agree. Uggghhh. Rising health insurance premiums are enough to make me don sackcloth and ashes.