Pastor tells kids waiting in Santa Clause like that Santa isn't real
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When it comes to God's truth, yes it's black and white.
When it comes to the application of God's truth then there are many ways to apply it. It doesn't change the absolute nature of His truth. Sure we are allowed character traits and individuality by His grace. No one is saying otherwise. Please stop characterizing in error what others say.
When it comes to the application of God's truth then there are many ways to apply it. It doesn't change the absolute nature of His truth. Sure we are allowed character traits and individuality by His grace. No one is saying otherwise. Please stop characterizing in error what others say.
And how are any of these the same as telling young ones the true story of Christmas? 
I learned about Jesus' birth young. Actually, I don't even remember not knowing about it.
I'm kinda baffled at the opposition. It's not like it's a story that's hard for kids to handle, and I don't see how it would take away their innocence...?? Help me out here.
I learned about Jesus' birth young. Actually, I don't even remember not knowing about it.
I'm kinda baffled at the opposition. It's not like it's a story that's hard for kids to handle, and I don't see how it would take away their innocence...?? Help me out here.
T
My Parents telling me about Santa ruined my whole childhood guys.... It taught me that lying was okay, and it is okay to ride wild animals, so before I knew it I was at a low point in my life, living out in the wild, capturing deers, and bears, and elk, and riding them, and the worst part of all....I told them Santa was real....do you really want to ruin another child's life by telling them Santa is real?
And how are any of these the same as telling young ones the true story of Christmas?
I learned about Jesus' birth young. Actually, I don't even remember not knowing about it.
I'm kinda baffled at the opposition. It's not like it's a story that's hard for kids to handle, and I don't see how it would take away their innocence...?? Help me out here.
I learned about Jesus' birth young. Actually, I don't even remember not knowing about it.
I'm kinda baffled at the opposition. It's not like it's a story that's hard for kids to handle, and I don't see how it would take away their innocence...?? Help me out here.
Except you didn't really express your opinions as opinions.
You pretty much stated your opinions as expressions of FACT.
And they aren't fact.
They're just opinion.
We're dealing with an extremely subjective area... it's loaded with all manner of personal bias, family bias, cultural bias, theological baggage of all different kinds... it's just a whole area loaded with baggage like a mine field.
You pretty much stated your opinions as expressions of FACT.
And they aren't fact.
They're just opinion.
We're dealing with an extremely subjective area... it's loaded with all manner of personal bias, family bias, cultural bias, theological baggage of all different kinds... it's just a whole area loaded with baggage like a mine field.
Wellnow that I think about it.. when ''santa'' came in and asked me if I was good.. the first thing I said was '' I was, my brother wasnt'' So I guess it kinda taught me to lie too.. lol
Sometimes small things make the biggest mess and I just wonder why not just avoid the avoidable and give your kids the presents yourself
Sometimes small things make the biggest mess and I just wonder why not just avoid the avoidable and give your kids the presents yourself
Okay, maybe not by accident, but sometimes they'll slip out such as white lies or unintended lies.
In either event, repenting to the Lord is all that is needed and He who is our Mediator and Advocate is good to forgive us. It doesn't change the fact that we repent when we lie and by God's grace do our best not to lie.
In either event, repenting to the Lord is all that is needed and He who is our Mediator and Advocate is good to forgive us. It doesn't change the fact that we repent when we lie and by God's grace do our best not to lie.
T
Well, I mean, Santa is ruining kids lives....
I speak from experience....
When I was 7 I was out in the woods capturing wild deers, and elk and bears, and riding them.... and the worst part..... I told them Santa was real....because that's what I thought was okay....
I have a friend who grew up to be a burglar because she thought it was okay to enter houses as long as it was through the chimney because of Santa.
Did you know that more than half of burglars confess to going into that "field" because Santa taught them they could?
I speak from experience....
When I was 7 I was out in the woods capturing wild deers, and elk and bears, and riding them.... and the worst part..... I told them Santa was real....because that's what I thought was okay....
I have a friend who grew up to be a burglar because she thought it was okay to enter houses as long as it was through the chimney because of Santa.
Did you know that more than half of burglars confess to going into that "field" because Santa taught them they could?
I think the main point is being missed here.
Parents have a RIGHT to raise THEIR children the way THEY see fit! That's the HUGE problem I have with this guy. What if a muslim started shouting to your children "Jesus is not God and you must renounce Him!" while they were in line? If those parents want to tell their kids that santa will come and bring them toys that is THEIR business.
Years ago my sons were friends with an Indian boy who was Hindu. As much as I wanted to tell him that his religion was wrong, and he must have Jesus, I knew that a person's child was off limits. After he grew up that was a different story.
That's what the issue is here. A trampling of parental rights.
Parents have a RIGHT to raise THEIR children the way THEY see fit! That's the HUGE problem I have with this guy. What if a muslim started shouting to your children "Jesus is not God and you must renounce Him!" while they were in line? If those parents want to tell their kids that santa will come and bring them toys that is THEIR business.
Years ago my sons were friends with an Indian boy who was Hindu. As much as I wanted to tell him that his religion was wrong, and he must have Jesus, I knew that a person's child was off limits. After he grew up that was a different story.
That's what the issue is here. A trampling of parental rights.