The President elect

[maxwel]

As I have proven from an earlier post, Obama's approval numbers are HIGHER than Reagan's because he was clearly a better president.

Ok Frog, Christmas is over... time to make the donuts:




1. Simple Logic with your "ratings" :

A. Differing approval ratings don't necessarily mean ANYTHING about a person's ACTUAL PERFORMANCE, they only reflect PERCEIVED PERFORMANCE.

B. Approval ratings may not even reflect PERCEIVED PERFORMANCE, they may only reflect POPULARITY... and as we all remember from High School days... that doesn't mean much.

C. I'm not willing to even ACCEPT these approval ratings as being VALID until you provide links to them on a credible site... a site that is politically unbiased and which has proper documentation for the ratings.

D. Even if the numbers ARE real and documented, we'll have to take a look at WHO generated these numbers, and WHAT METHODOLOGY they used... the methodology could well render them meaningless.

Conclusion #1: There are a MULTITUDE of reasons theses numbers could be meaningless.

Conclusion #2: I'm not concerned about Reagan's ratings anyway... it's IRRELEVANT to current politics.



2. The fact that your latest link to the Paladino story appears to be a real story,
does NOT get you out of the woods for posting FAKE NEWS in the past.

A. You've posted a number of FAKE NEWS incidents previously, which were later found to be erroneous or exaggerated.

B. I do NOT believe you did this intentionally.

I've accused you of not doing proper research; I have not accused you of intentionally lying.
(Not so far.)

I believe you took articles from liberal sites that were just running cheap smear tactics during the election, and therefore publishing a lot of fake stories... and so you wound up with some fake news.

C. However, since I don't believe you vet or research what you post... I suspect this will happen again.



3. When Utah called that Paladino story fake, he was probably just trusting MY research on the topic, as I usually vet things carefully before I post... so I'll take the heat for that one.

A. I definitely checked it, but I didn't check it carefully enough.

B. The "actual story" you linked to was a SMALL PARAGRAPH on PAGE 12 of a 26 PAGE ARTICLE...
I simply looked but didn't see it.



4. I want to reiterate, that although the Paladino story appears to be a REAL STORY, it is still an IRRELEVANT STORY.

A. It really has nothing to do with Trump; he didn't make the comments, and he doesn't hold those sentiments.

B. Trump's team came out immediately AGAINST the Paladino comments, and took a clear public stand against them.

C. NOBODY is EVER responsible for EVERY STUPID THING said by a colleague.

 

[Tommy379]

As I have proven from an earlier post, Obama's approval numbers are HIGHER than Reagan's because he was clearly a better president.

I wonder if the polling done to determine the approval ratings are anymore accurate than the polls for the 2016 elections?

They never ask me, cause I'd tell them the truth, Calvin Coolidge was the greatest ever.

 

[jennymae]

I wonder if the polling done to determine the approval ratings are anymore accurate than the polls for the 2016 elections?

They never ask me, cause I'd tell them the truth, Calvin Coolidge was the greatest ever.

Coolidge was a good president, based on what I know about his tenure. Federal aggrandizement has made sure we will not see a president like that again.

 

[Tommy379]

Coolidge was a good president, based on what I know about his tenure. Federal aggrandizement has made sure we will not see a president like that again.

You're right.

I think 150 years without a civil war is too long. Time for Texas and South Carolina to start kicking it up.

 

[jennymae]

You're right.

I think 150 years without a civil war is too long. Time for Texas and South Carolina to start kicking it up.

The wounds from the war between states still hasn't healed, whenever I grew up in the 80s and 90s my grandma and granddad were still talking about the presence of the war back whenever they were kids, more than 60-70 years after it ended. They had heard their older kins talking about who got killed, who was not, who was held in captivity up north, who were renegates, who were scalawags...it just wouldn't pass...and if some sorry person had a kin that had been supporting "damyankee" (I don't know if that term is allowed in here, sorry for using it if it aint), said person was going to get a scolding every now and then for what his condemned ancestor did.

Even today the war sore is there, in our hearts and in our minds...I think it will never really heal. Of course, the South was wrong in some ways. Slavery was very wrong and I can understand that to some folks, the Stars and Bars is a symbol they don't like, but to some of us, it is part of the heritage we grew up with. I think the attacks on symbols like that from both Democrats and Republicans can, in parts, explain why people are being upset with mainstream USA and DC. There is a part of America they've long since forgotten, and it looks like people are getting tired of the tail wagging the dog.

I think respecting states rights will prevent an uprising, USA is, after all, a nation of nations, and not every federal law passed in DC fits every state.

Never again should Americans fight Americans in a war!

This is what I believe.

God Bless America.

 

[Tommy379]

The wounds from the war between states still hasn't healed, whenever I grew up in the 80s and 90s my grandma and granddad were still talking about the presence of the war back whenever they were kids, more than 60-70 years after it ended. They had heard their older kins talking about who got killed, who was not, who was held in captivity up north, who were renegates, who were scalawags...it just wouldn't pass...and if some sorry person had a kin that had been supporting "damyankee" (I don't know if that term is allowed in here, sorry for using it if it aint), said person was going to get a scolding every now and then for what his condemned ancestor did.

Even today the war sore is there, in our hearts and in our minds...I think it will never really heal. Of course, the South was wrong in some ways. Slavery was very wrong and I can understand that to some folks, the Stars and Bars is a symbol they don't like, but to some of us, it is part of the heritage we grew up with. I think the attacks on symbols like that from both Democrats and Republicans can, in parts, explain why people are being upset with mainstream USA and DC. There is a part of America they've long since forgotten, and it looks like people are getting tired of the tail wagging the dog.

I think respecting states rights will prevent an uprising, USA is, after all, a nation of nations, and not every federal law passed in DC fits every state.

Never again should Americans fight Americans in a war!

This is what I believe.

God Bless America.

That's the problem, it will never happen.

 

[gb9]

As I have proven from an earlier post, Obama's approval numbers are HIGHER than Reagan's because he was clearly a better president.

wonder how many folks lost health insurance under regan, as myself and 1000's of others did because of Obamacare? because, you know, socialism fixes everything.

and the polls you referenced, are they the same ones that had Hilary winning easily??

 

[Utah]

http://christianchat.com/christian-news-forum/145098-president-elect-29.html#post2915080


This clearly proves that Utah was involved in the exchange where he accused me of posting fake news. Yet, he calls others liars and continues to insist he is not in need of forgiveness. On top of all that he claims to completely ignore my posts! LOLOLOL!!!!

By the way, still waiting for your retraction.

Nice reach, toad. My focus was on you presenting fake news to CC all the time, not the particulars of the discussion between you and Max. You're infatuated with me, that's blatantly obvious. Give it up.

 

[tourist]

As I have proven from an earlier post, Obama's approval numbers are HIGHER than Reagan's because he was clearly a better president.

Approval ratings and the learned opinion of presidential historians are two different things.

 

[Utah]

Ok Frog, Christmas is over... time to make the donuts:




1. Simple Logic with your "ratings" :

A. Differing approval ratings don't necessarily mean ANYTHING about a person's ACTUAL PERFORMANCE, they only reflect PERCEIVED PERFORMANCE.

B. Approval ratings may not even reflect PERCEIVED PERFORMANCE, they may only reflect POPULARITY... and as we all remember from High School days... that doesn't mean much.

C. I'm not willing to even ACCEPT these approval ratings as being VALID until you provide links to them on a credible site... a site that is politically unbiased and which has proper documentation for the ratings.

D. Even if the numbers ARE real and documented, we'll have to take a look at WHO generated these numbers, and WHAT METHODOLOGY they used... the methodology could well render them meaningless.

Conclusion #1: There are a MULTITUDE of reasons theses numbers could be meaningless.

Conclusion #2: I'm not concerned about Reagan's ratings anyway... it's IRRELEVANT to current politics.



2. The fact that your latest link to the Paladino story appears to be a real story,
does NOT get you out of the woods for posting FAKE NEWS in the past.

A. You've posted a number of FAKE NEWS incidents previously, which were later found to be erroneous or exaggerated.

B. I do NOT believe you did this intentionally.

I've accused you of not doing proper research; I have not accused you of intentionally lying.
(Not so far.)

I believe you took articles from liberal sites that were just running cheap smear tactics during the election, and therefore publishing a lot of fake stories... and so you wound up with some fake news.

C. However, since I don't believe you vet or research what you post... I suspect this will happen again.



3. When Utah called that Paladino story fake, he was probably just trusting MY research on the topic, as I usually vet things carefully before I post... so I'll take the heat for that one.

A. I definitely checked it, but I didn't check it carefully enough.

B. The "actual story" you linked to was a SMALL PARAGRAPH on PAGE 12 of a 26 PAGE ARTICLE...
I simply looked but didn't see it.



4. I want to reiterate, that although the Paladino story appears to be a REAL STORY, it is still an IRRELEVANT STORY.

A. It really has nothing to do with Trump; he didn't make the comments, and he doesn't hold those sentiments.

B. Trump's team came out immediately AGAINST the Paladino comments, and took a clear public stand against them.

C. NOBODY is EVER responsible for EVERY STUPID THING said by a colleague.

I don't recall saying anything about Paladino, maybe I did, I don't remember. My real concern is toad's overall twisting of the truth with his left wing propaganda that he pukes out page after page. Case in point is his assertion that Obama was a better President than Reagan. Of course a sugar daddy who hands out welfare checks by the tens of millions, checks such as toad receives monthly, is going to receive more that-a-boys than a leader who encourage hard work, integrity and accountability in order to make our nation the best in world history. But I digress. Ribbit.

 

[jsr1221]

As I have proven from an earlier post, Obama's approval numbers are HIGHER than Reagan's because he was clearly a better president.

Pornography also has high ratings... Just because someone or skme has high approval, it doesn't automatically mean it's for the better.

 

[Sirk]

Pornography also has high ratings... Just because someone or skme has high approval, it doesn't automatically mean it's for the better.

Lol. Obamas high ratings only prove that half the country is retarded. As if we didn't know that already! Lol

 

[maxwel]

Lol. Obamas high ratings only prove that half the country is retarded. As if we didn't know that already! Lol

Well, logically... there are many valid possible conclusions.

And this is as reasonable as any.

: )




(However, when talking about politics, we don't say "retarded."
We say "logically or ethically challenged.")

 

[Sirk]

Well, logically... there are many valid possible conclusions.

And this is as reasonable as any.

: )




(However, when talking about politics, we don't say "retarded."
We say "logically or ethically challenged.")

Lol....I know man....I think I say it because it's such an unpopular word....but the reality is, I don't mean to degrade people with down syndrome by comparing them to liberals who love Obama. In my view, the word retarded only applies to the blind ignorance of people who should be capable of knowing better.

 

[maxwel]

Lol....I know man....I think I say it because it's such an unpopular word....but the reality is, I don't mean to degrade people with down syndrome by comparing them to liberals who love Obama. In my view, the word retarded only applies to the blind ignorance of people who should be capable of knowing better.

Thank you for clearing that up.

There are a lot of lovely people with mental deficiencies, who do the very best they can with what God gave them...
we don't want to harm their reputation by confusing them with liberals.

 

[Sirk]

Thank you for clearing that up.

There are a lot of lovely people with mental deficiencies, who do the very best they can with what God gave them...
we don't want to harm their reputation by confusing them with liberals.

I strongly feel that people who subscribe to marxist or communist ideologies are enemies of America. America was founded on principles straight out of the bible and it is the closest man made thing to a Godly system that has ever existed on planet earth. I also believe that those who seek to upend it are my enemy....no matter what they think their intentions are. And they are my enemy because they are stealing from me and my family. They are thieves of liberty.

 

[Utah]

I strongly feel that people who subscribe to marxist or communist ideologies are enemies of America. America was founded on principles straight out of the bible and it is the closest man made thing to a Godly system that has ever existed on planet earth. I also believe that those who seek to upend it are my enemy....no matter what they think their intentions are. And they are my enemy because they are stealing from me and my family. They are thieves of liberty.

Well said, bro. And they're not just stealing, they're openly oppressing. Tyrants can be stopped many ways, and shedding their blood is one way when all others fail. Thank God for the 2nd Amendment.

 

[peacenik]

Nice reach, toad. My focus was on you presenting fake news to CC all the time, not the particulars of the discussion between you and Max. You're infatuated with me, that's blatantly obvious. Give it up.

kindly give examples - remember, thou shalt not bear false witness ...

 

[peacenik]

I strongly feel that people who subscribe to marxist or communist ideologies are enemies of America. America was founded on principles straight out of the bible and it is the closest man made thing to a Godly system that has ever existed on planet earth. I also believe that those who seek to upend it are my enemy....no matter what they think their intentions are. And they are my enemy because they are stealing from me and my family. They are thieves of liberty.

then you must have great disregard for Republicans such as those listed by CONSERVATIVE Anthony Sutton:


https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf

 

[peacenik]

Ok Frog, Christmas is over... time to make the donuts:




1. Simple Logic with your "ratings" :

A. Differing approval ratings don't necessarily mean ANYTHING about a person's ACTUAL PERFORMANCE, they only reflect PERCEIVED PERFORMANCE.

B. Approval ratings may not even reflect PERCEIVED PERFORMANCE, they may only reflect POPULARITY... and as we all remember from High School days... that doesn't mean much.

C. I'm not willing to even ACCEPT these approval ratings as being VALID until you provide links to them on a credible site... a site that is politically unbiased and which has proper documentation for the ratings.

D. Even if the numbers ARE real and documented, we'll have to take a look at WHO generated these numbers, and WHAT METHODOLOGY they used... the methodology could well render them meaningless.

Conclusion #1: There are a MULTITUDE of reasons theses numbers could be meaningless.

Conclusion #2: I'm not concerned about Reagan's ratings anyway... it's IRRELEVANT to current politics.



2. The fact that your latest link to the Paladino story appears to be a real story,
does NOT get you out of the woods for posting FAKE NEWS in the past.

A. You've posted a number of FAKE NEWS incidents previously, which were later found to be erroneous or exaggerated.

B. I do NOT believe you did this intentionally.

I've accused you of not doing proper research; I have not accused you of intentionally lying.
(Not so far.)

I believe you took articles from liberal sites that were just running cheap smear tactics during the election, and therefore publishing a lot of fake stories... and so you wound up with some fake news.

C. However, since I don't believe you vet or research what you post... I suspect this will happen again.



3. When Utah called that Paladino story fake, he was probably just trusting MY research on the topic, as I usually vet things carefully before I post... so I'll take the heat for that one.

A. I definitely checked it, but I didn't check it carefully enough.

B. The "actual story" you linked to was a SMALL PARAGRAPH on PAGE 12 of a 26 PAGE ARTICLE...
I simply looked but didn't see it.



4. I want to reiterate, that although the Paladino story appears to be a REAL STORY, it is still an IRRELEVANT STORY.

A. It really has nothing to do with Trump; he didn't make the comments, and he doesn't hold those sentiments.

B. Trump's team came out immediately AGAINST the Paladino comments, and took a clear public stand against them.

C. NOBODY is EVER responsible for EVERY STUPID THING said by a colleague.

Hey One Eye ---


1) ''perceived"


take heart Friend - the numbers come from the same source that said Reagan was a "great" president




2) Paladino is a REAL story and he openly admitted as my subsequent links clearly showed - open up those links as there is NOTHING to be afraid of except for the truth.



3) Utah - yup. He swallowed your story hook, line, and sinker. I am still awaiting his retraction but, so far, he has failed to develop the character to admit he was and remains WRONG.



4) Palladino is relevant because as you know, responsibility goes to the top. This means Trump is responsible for the words/actions of his subordinates. Just as Clinton was blamed for Janet Reno's actions in Waco and Obama blamed for what happened in Libya's embassy which got you right wingers so riled up. Significantly, you missed the fact that more Americans died in embassy attacks under Bush but we can set that aside for now.





Nice attempt at trying to worm your way out of this one, Pal. But you are stuck in it. You said it was fake, then partially retracted, now again you say "appears to be a real story" when you know fully well that it is real unlike your Pizzagate which you right wingers fell for (I am still laughing about that one as is everybody else).